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If you want to infect the native population and get away with it, creepy drones are a piss poor way of doing it. It would be tantamount to an act of war for any developed nation. If New Jersey gets infected with some novel disease, everyone would realize it came from the drones.

If the drones are spraying something, my guess is that it's something mundane, maybe even condensation. If they're American, the spray could be a test of some sort, but the payload is most likely some non-infectious solvent for experimental purposes. I'm assuming this is not some 4D chess glowie ploy and that they are not NHI. If either of those are true (and they're highly unlikely in my opinion), then all bets are off.

Off the top of my head and in no particular order:
  1. Infect immigrants rather than the native population. Shithole countries have no defense against bioterrorism, and will likely end up interacting with American law enforcement in the near future. Infect Illegals, and you'll infect the police or military.
  2. Taint the water supply. We've already proven its efficacy with Operation Sea-Spray, and this method is far more subtle than drones dispensing it.
  3. Infect animals, particularly insects or mice.
  4. Infect trade goods, food being the best example. All it would take is ignoring some standard health and safety practices; food is the classic example, but not the only one.
  5. Infect the native food supply. Considering how China owns a lot of farmland, this would be easy for the Chinese at least.
Now, if you really want to be scared, check out this or this. Biological weapons should be feared, but I doubt that's what's going on here. It would seriously have to be some crazy virus like FOXDIE that sits in your system imperceptibly until it detonates, while also requiring a specific method of transmission involving novel drone technology. It's just not practical.
 
Something that has not been mentioned at all is that the recent NOTAMs issued by the FAA for New Jersey are almost all for 1 nautical mile radius outside of specific electrical substations and critical infrastructure .

https://tfr.faa.gov/tfr_map_ims/html/ns/scale6/tile_29_13.html - https://archive.is/8rnrh


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Electrical substation

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Electrical substation and water treatment plant

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Rail station

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(Not sure, but something infrastructure related)

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Cargo terminal



Due to the distance between the zones of where the NOTAMs are posted, and the lack of inclusion of other infrastructure (like Salem Nuclear Power Plant and the Oyster Creek Site, which would to be me be obvious inclusions that are missing from this list). This seems like a very specific list. As if these locations are being targeted.

Something is very clearly up and "Dey friendly hobbyist drones" is very clearly not the case.
 

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This Is What Happened At White House Briefing On Mysterious Drones: New Jersey Mayor Michael Melham​

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  • Drones over 2 Nuclear Plants
  • Drones turned off and disappeared when approached
  • Drones not emitting Radio Frequencies
  • Drones high tech enough to be our government or a foreign adversary
  • Drones "impossible" to knocked out of sky with Jammer
  • Can not get a straight answer from anyone regarding Drone origin
  • New Jersey Homeland Security states "not getting any information"
  • Believes Drones are Federal assets
  • Believes government is aware of "a" threat
  • Drones flying in grid-like pattern
  • Believes Drones are "looking or searching for something"
  • Drones are showing up in the same spot "every single night doing the same grid-like pattern"
  • Believes the government is looking for something
  • Believes that the government won't tell them because the government believes if they did tell them what it is they would "be more scared"
  • Reiterates Trumps statement that Trump will not be in New Jersey this weekend, which "did not make people in New Jersey feel more comfortable"
  • "It's scary", "Our residents are scared", "they're agitated", "they're anxious"
  • "Clearly something was discussed for 3 hours in a classified meeting"
  • "What else did they speak about for another 2 hours and 15 minutes"
  • "Clearly they know something that we don't know"
  • "What are they searching for?"
  • "I no longer question who owns the Drones, who they belong to, I don't question that anymore"
  • "I truly do believe that they are ours"

I hope to god New Jersey is okay. It's the most populated state. There are so many people there.
I believe it's impossible to knock out venus, a random star or a starlink satellite out of the sky with a drone jammer, maybe you could jam a plane or a helicopter with those but i doubt it will be worth it.

Almost all of these 'drones' are clearly airplanes. The rest are just out of focus lights. If there was any funny business going on, it's been covered up by this mass hysteria of gullible retards going outside and looking up at the night sky for the first time in a decade.
Someone out there is actually taking advantage of this situation and sending their actual drones for real to take a peek into US bases.
 
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This is the full map and list of the NOTAMs issued for prohibiting UAS (drone) activity in New Jersey.
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The list seems to be very specific in the locations that were included in the NOTAM. There are hundreds of critical infrastructure sites in New Jersey but it seems that a NOTAM was issued specifically for individual sites of interest. Why this is the case remains to be undetermined. There is little to no media coverage of this and the NOTAMs are being reported as covering general areas which is false information.

The only airport included on the list was the Teterboro Airport .

For reference, this is a map of critical infrastructure sites in New Jersey. There were only 18 NOTAMs issued, two of which cover Trump National Golf Club Bedminister ( FDC 4/8986 and FDC 4/1797)
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Something is very clearly going on here.


The southernmost NOTAM issued restricting drone activity is FDC 4/8612, in red. Viewing it from the freeway, it looks to be a facility owned by PSE&G but I can't identify what it directly is.
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It's about 50 miles from where the "cluster" seems to be.


The map of NOTAMs also seems to line up with where the majority of drone sightings are reported to be occurring, which may have been a determining factor by the FAA or joint governmental agencies in the issuing of the flight restrictions. However this behavior seems to be completely contrary to the official government narrative which is that the drones pose no threat and are commercial or hobbyist in origin.
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  • Drones "impossible" to knocked out of sky with Jammer
I believe it's impossible to knock out venus, a random star or a starlink satellite out of the sky with a drone jammer
one video that interested me that @fukefacedog posted was where a smaller (probably consumer drone) tried flying up to a larger drone and then suddenly dropped out of the sky. i'm not a drone or radio expert, but this is what i was able to dig up in with just a little research

with drone jammers, the way that most of them work is to blast signal interference on the frequency that the drone is using to communicate with its operator (A). most drones will just fall out of the sky because they've lost signal and don't know what to do

i've attached an image of the US frequency band allocation chart with the four most common bands that normal drones are allowed to operate: 2.4 GHz, 5.8 GHz, 900 MHz and 433 MHz (A). if 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz sound familiar, it's because these are the frequencies that pretty much all consumer devices (that aren't radios with assigned bands) use to communicate wirelessly, including wifi. most drones probably are using these two bands, although they're allowed to operate on any unlicensed band like any consumer equipment

when that little drone flew up to the big drone, what was probably happening is that the smaller drone was being jammed on a frequency that the larger drone was not operating on. either the drone had jamming countermeasures that activate, or there was somebody in view of the drone that fired a jammer

drones that are impossible to be be knocked out the sky with a jammer are going to be the real shit. they're going to be using special frequencies to prevent being jammed, and maybe even doing frequency hopping to prevent being jammed. so Andy Griffith and Barney Fife pointing their civilian (the police are civilians even though they hate it when you call them that) drone jammer at a drone and having nothing happen doesn't mean it's aliens, it's just that the drones are using any other number of frequencies that aren't in those four small areas i highlighted

so the question remains: if military or adversarial drones are operating in US air space and just hovering there looking for something, what the fuck are they looking for?

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A very Canadian thing of you to say

[double-posting to better segregate the schizo from the snarky, my apologies]

allow me to schizo for a moment: what if this is just the current government trying to incite panic before Trump gets inaugurated?

Like, this is so low on the list I doubt it's even a possibility, but I can totally believe that the current bureaucracy and general political elite are so butthurt and so rabid about #NeverTrump-ing that they're actively trying to make this inter-president period as chaotic as possible. Come January people are going to be exhausted of this talk, with all the retards filming planes at night having diluted discussion down to niche corners of the web (like this thread) or the realm of laughingstock (like almost all other discussion of UAPs), so they won't pay attention if the drones start doing weird shit like conveniently swarming around the capital or show up during the inauguration speech to frame it like some kind of machine-driven coup in the history books.

then, over the course of Trump's presidency, these drones keep the butthurt elite tuned-in at all times so that, by the third or fourth year of Trump 2, there's some big hullaballoo that ends with him either dead or out of power and their version of Democracy(TM) firmly entrenched for the next however many years.




now, this is obviously not going to happen
these weird lights are 10x more likely to be some foreign agent or actual ayys than they are pets of the political elite meant to contribute to some grand over-arching plan to oust Trump and "right history"


but it would be really funny if that did happen so I'm suggesting it anyways

if I end up being a prophet I'm totally making a career out of it
 
They’ve sprayed so much shit in the air for climate change that chem trails are no longer a conspiracy. Look up stratospheric aerosol injection.
Yeah studies find that airplanes make up 4.5% of all global warming, and that's just based off of carbon emissions.

Also to explain my previous post, I shall post a very terrible video I took a few days ago. Towards the end you can faintly see the contrail.

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This is the full map and list of the NOTAMs issued for prohibiting UAS (drone) activity in New Jersey.
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The list seems to be very specific in the locations that were included in the NOTAM. There are hundreds of critical infrastructure sites in New Jersey but it seems that a NOTAM was issued specifically for individual sites of interest. Why this is the case remains to be undetermined. There is little to no media coverage of this and the NOTAMs are being reported as covering general areas which is false information.

The only airport included on the list was the Teterboro Airport .

For reference, this is a map of critical infrastructure sites in New Jersey. There were only 18 NOTAMs issued, two of which cover Trump National Golf Club Bedminister ( FDC 4/8986 and FDC 4/1797)
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Something is very clearly going on here.


The southernmost NOTAM issued restricting drone activity is FDC 4/8612, in red. Viewing it from the freeway, it looks to be a facility owned by PSE&G but I can't identify what it directly is.
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It's about 50 miles from where the "cluster" seems to be.


The map of NOTAMs also seems to line up with where the majority of drone sightings are reported to be occurring, which may have been a determining factor by the FAA or joint governmental agencies in the issuing of the flight restrictions. However this behavior seems to be completely contrary to the official government narrative which is that the drones pose no threat and are commercial or hobbyist in origin.
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Notice that they're all in a line, you know what's also along that line? It lines up with the landing path for LaGuardia.
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It lines up with the landing path for LaGuardia.
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Perhaps but it's very unlikely these NOTAMs would be issued if there was not some indication of drone activity. The FAA most likely doesn't retain their own list of critical infrastructure sites. They cooperate with other agencies like the FBI and Homeland Security. I don't think this response would happen if the federal government was confident in their assessment that they are lawful commercial / hobby drones or planes. Similarly there are also NOTAMs prohibiting UAS activity that fall outside of any landing path.

Most of the population of New Jersey also lives in that region.
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While we can only guess at the origin and intentions of these things buzzing about, one of the key takeaways from this drone imbroglio is the US government is bumbling and incompetent to a dangerous, potentially catastrophic degree. If their objective has been to reassure the public, they've failed. If their objective has been to obfuscate the truth (whatever it is) with a convincing and successful campaign of lies and misdirection, they've failed.

One would expect politicians to lie successfully. It is, after all, their fucking job. My kids at five could do it better.
 
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