US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

The Founding Fathers lived in an era that a 20-something who made a work would likely be dead in 28 years. That's hardly a sensible system when the average life expectancy is 80. Even 120 years ago they realized that and extended it on that basis alone.

Life expectancy is impacted by infant mortality. People who lived long enough to write books were quite likely to live into old age.

They specifically called for a limited term, not a lifetime term. Let the other Mouseketeers know when you get a chance.

 

[MadStan]

I'm sorry that Trump stopped the Omnibus spending bill with all kinds of booby traps for the upcoming Trump admin hiding as a CR in it's tracks and ruined the Uniparty's Christmas.

I'm also sorry that the Democrats are choosing to shut down the government rather than pass a clean bill.

In addition I must express condolances that with Elon controlling X the media will not be able to blame Trump and put pressure on the GOPe / ConInc. to capitulate.

Sounds like Congress might have to do their fucking jobs for once and pass a Budget, not a CR full of pork.

News flash - it is all fucking Pork. that was what the Bill was - Pork for the states so everyone gets a piece of the pie which is why they all agreed to it until Trump realized he didn't have enough Pork himself. Everything in congress is fucking pork.

Here you are, saying they are all after Pork when the only reason Trump jumped up and down is because he wanted an open wallet, with no debt ceiling and wants his Pork above all others having theirs. Thats fucking Rich - 2 years of unlimited spending, I mean christ, I didn't hear that in the campaign, did you? Nah I heard balanced budget but haven't seen that either.

Trump didn't want Pork, he wanted 90% of the Turkey and that's called "too greedy" and that ain't how it works.

When Trump and Elon demand a Bill that DOESN'T open the floodgates of Debt for 2 years and is balanced, then I'll believe it - but he hasn't had drafted a balanced budget or CR, has he? No, of course not. Take your propaganda elsewhere.

Trump and Elon haven't even fucking read the legislation, all they asked is "Is there a debt ceiling? And if so, we want it removed." And that's all that happened.

 

[trent]

They've told people to stop flying drones in parts of New Jersey and New York so i guess it is actually something they are trying to figure out.

It's weird how literal fucking aliens existing is going to be revealed in such a low key way between this and the government disclosure thing from a few years back.

 

[TJT]

It all makes sense when you understand the status quo is preferable to these professional losers, than the possible future where Trump’s promises are fufilled. That, and them thinking merely feigning anger on X wouldn’t light a fire under “D.O.G.E.” CiCs Elon and Vivek proverbial asses. Typical Boomer/Gen X idiocy.

Though to our—and Trump’s benefit.

I personally love the traditional soundbite they use everytime a shutdown comes up.

"900,000 hardworking [FEDERAL EMPLOYEES] Americans won't get a paycheck this Christmas because of YOU!"

If you fired 800,000 Federal Employees permanently and the only perceivable changes in the USA were that gay ass bureaucratic nonsense takes longer it would open more eyes about these dicksuckers than anything else they could imagine.

 

[MirrorNoir]

For fourteen years plus one 14 year extension. No longer.

If Disney doesn’t want to agree to the original terms the founding fathers established then all the creators can starve to death on the street for all I care.

Internet culture moves at 1000 times the pace culture used to move yet our copyrights are extended out so that by the time a work enters the public domain it is totally useless. Culture moving faster means the terms should be shorter, not longer.

The public is supposed to get value back for what it contributes to protecting the copyright.

Creators can establish a new fair deal or they can starve on the street while I laugh at them. The pace of our cultural development is being massively retarded to protect a corporation obsessed with brainwashing children with progressive propaganda. This is not in our national interest at all.

Star Wars should already be in the public domain. We should not be beholden to Disney for it WHO ISN’T EVEN THE CREATOR. It should already be the legal property of the fans to do with as they will.

To be fair, Disney is already on super shaky ground with the stuff they already continue to allow to exist, with regards to fan shit.

Stuff like the various Stormtrooper societies would have been sued into oblivion if it was any other Disney character based fan group. Especially when paired with the woke brigade itself being eternally pissy that fans cheer/root for the Empire and keep screeching that the Empire and it's goons are all Nazis and literal Hitlers and how the only socially acceptable way to be a SW fan is to root for the ethnically diverse rebellion side.

 

[UnidentifiedFlyingOrchid]

Copyright has nothing to do with censorship at all. But saying intellectual property should be copied freely because of "muh rent seeking parasites" is nonsense straight from Marxism.

Thomas Jefferson the Marxist. Very silly.

Copyright laws in the US originated from the English Parliamentary Licensing of the Press Act of 1662. The full long title was An Act for preventing the frequent Abuses in printing seditious treasonable and unlicensed Books and Pamphlets and for regulating of Printing and Printing Presses. It was explicitly about censorship.

John Locke (are you going to call him a Marxist too) heavily criticized the Act and worked to have it repealed. He succeeded and now we have the Public Domain. The Statute of Anne was the next law to restrict copying. What do you call government enforced restriction on copying or spreading information, if not censorship?

Even if we kept Copyright, the US budget could be paid for by eliminating the FIRE sector's rent-seeking monopolization.

 

[shekelshoah666]

News flash - it is all fucking Pork. that was what the Bill was - Pork for the states so everyone gets a piece of the pie which is why they all agreed to it until Trump realized he didn't have enough Pork himself. Everything in congress is fucking pork.

Here you are, saying they are all after Pork when the only reason Trump jumped up and down is because he wanted an open wallet, with no debt ceiling and wants his Pork above all others having theirs. Thats fucking Rich - 2 years of unlimited spending, I mean christ, I didn't hear that in the campaign, did you? Nah I heard balanced budget but haven't seen that either.

Trump didn't want Pork, he wanted 90% of the Turkey and that's called "too greedy" and that ain't how it works.

When Trump and Elon demand a Bill that DOESN'T open the floodgates of Debt for 2 years and is balanced, then I'll believe it - but he hasn't had drafted a balanced budget or CR, has he? No, of course not. Take your propaganda elsewhere.

Trump and Elon haven't even fucking read the legislation, all they asked is "Is there a debt ceiling? And if so, we want it removed." And that's all that happened.

Uh they absolutely read the legislation lmao this isn't 2004 you can find all of the billions if not trillions of random pork bullshit in about 5 minutes with AI nowadays. The new bill is one of the cleanest ones put to congress that isn't like "gib money to Ukraine" in years.

Debt ceiling is going to be raised 100% no matter what Trump does at some point so should he do it now with a 50 senator vote without giving Schumer billions for Ukraine and tranny shit or should he do it 6 months from now where he needs 60 votes and has to give all of those things and more? It's simple political strategy and it's why Johnson is a complete failure, he gave all that money in the original bill and didn't even get that basic concession.

Why should Trump have to beg Schumer for scraps in the budget when he won the biggest victory in 40+ years? Remember how hard his own party fought against him for the wall in first term? hint: this is why and they will do it again. People need to stop trying to give up power for "muh budget" because if Trump isn't able to fund mass deportations and all the other shit dems win easy in 2028 and they will make raising the debt ceiling look like the most fiscally conservative thing you can imagine.

 

[TJT]

Honestly one of the good uses of AI is that it prevents this kind of fuckery from being possible. Here's a 10000 page document you wont have time to read but I will pressure you to sign!

Nah, ask the AI to parse out and itemize every dollar spend and what its for. Order it by cost and DEI, war, and other questionable keywords then demand explanations. It takes the AI under 5 minutes to do this and will only get better as the years go on.

 

[Betonhaus]

I wonder if that baby faced senator on TikTok will cover what's going on.

Those cuts still have to pass congress

Some could probably be cancelled by an EO. Killing the CIA and FBI would have a significant budget savings

 

[invisibult plus+]

There should be a bill to annotate each item added with the politician’s name. That way, whoever reads it can ask So-and-So how giving a quintillion dollars to Palisraelkrane helps the American taxpayer.

 

[TJT]

The BOTTOM line is Mike had a deal and he had the votes. And then came along Trump and Elon and then it went to hell.

It’s your President, Your Senate and Your House and Your SCOTUS and selling the idea the Dems are the legislation killers when you got the whole game is absolutely pathetic.

I want a government shutdown. Let it be shutdown for months and see if anyone notices other than fed employees.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

There should be a bill to annotate each item added with the politician’s name. That way, whoever reads it can ask So-and-So how giving a quintillion dollars to Palisraelkrane helps the American taxpayer.

It's easy enough to figure out when earmarks for specific districts are all itemized and spelled out. The problem is the people in those districts who we need to vote them out all support their own pork projects, it's always everyone else's project that's pork. It's always all the other Congressmen who are the problem, not mine. Mine brings home the bacon!

 

[SpergioLeonne]

I want a government shutdown. Let it be shutdown for months and see if anyone notices other than fed employees.

The problem is that they’re attention whores and will spend nonexistent money anyways to do shit like rope off access to anything tangentially related to the government, like national parks.

Instead of just shutting down, most of the legislature ought to be publicly caned and have balldos tattooed on their faces

 

[quaawaa]

Woah both of them support J6 prosecutions and love liz cheney as well very principled! Both of these retards getting put on the primary list. Fucking Mace even said Zelensky is like George Washington. Totally sick.

People here love Mace because she hates troons, but to this day she brags about voting for gay marriage and she started off her career by forcing herself into a male-only school. She’s a JK Rowling-type feminist, not a conservative.

 

[close]

this isn't 2004 you can find all of the billions if not trillions of random pork bullshit in about 5 minutes with AI nowadays

Honestly one of the good uses of AI is that it prevents this kind of fuckery from being possible

Yes hello retards, LLMs are utter fucking trash that are nothing but hallucinations that align with reality only coincidentally. Pointing one at a legal bill and asking it "where is the POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRK" will yield exactly the same results as pointing one at a code base and asking it "where are the security issues?"

It will lie in a plausible way, and then retards will believe it, and cause issues for anyone with at least half a brain by making plausible sounding complaints that require actual time and effort to research and discover they're all bullshit.

I hope both of you die immediately.

 

[quaawaa]

"Intellectual Property" is the next obvious rent-seeking monopolization. Abolish it or collect all of the economic rent from allowing parasites to squat on our culture and scientific progress.

Great, a retarded libertarian who thinks that banning inventors from profiting off of their inventions won’t cripple innovation.

Without patents, an individual inventor won’t be able to commercialize their invention because a mega corporation with established manufacturing and no R&D costs will just undercut them the second it gains traction in the market.

Why would anyone want to put in the effort to invent something new when a “rent seeker” can just steal their invention and get even richer off of it?

There are already plenty of real world examples of what a world with no IP laws looks like. China steals tech from the West and undercuts the original inventor as a result, China’s economy has grown while their victims’ have shrunk and they haven’t invented anything since the ancient Four Great Inventions of paper, gunpowder, the compass, and printing. They cope with their Four New Inventions (high speed rail, mobile payments, e-commerce, and bike sharing), none of which were invented in China or are “great” inventions.

A culture with no IP laws has no innovation. Just admit you want to pirate movies without feeling bad about yourself.

 

[The Nothingness]

38 Republicans were against the latest CR.
All but 2 Democrats were against the latest CR.

Guess which party will be blamed if there is a government shutdown and ruining Christmas.

 

[quaawaa]

Honestly one of the good uses of AI is that it prevents this kind of fuckery from being possible. Here's a 10000 page document you wont have time to read but I will pressure you to sign!

Nah, ask the AI to parse out and itemize every dollar spend and what it’s for. Order it by cost and DEI, war, and other questionable keywords then demand explanations. It takes the AI under 5 minutes to do this and will only get better as the years go on.

AI is useless for that. It’ll miss very important lines that causes billions of dollars in expenses or enact disastrous regulations while hallucinating things that aren’t even in the bill.

Laws aren’t full of superfluous prose that can be easily removed; every single line has meaning and is important. If a bill is too complicated for a human to read, it’s too complicated for an AI summary, and way too complicated to be voted on.

 

[Captain Chromosome]

OT, but I had another coworker interaction that left me a bit dumbfounded. Old Gay Serbian unironically got worked up and told me how "Trump suing media companies to shut down criticism is literally the first step to fascism!". There was no sarcasm here and he went on to bemoan how historians and political analysts are terrified of le mango Mussolini and how he only wants what's best for him, not the country.
I'm tired of political retardation IRL and it's just not worth it.

I don't have that dog in me anymore.

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

AI is useless for that. It’ll miss very important lines that causes billions of dollars in expenses or enact disastrous regulations while hallucinating things that aren’t even in the bill.

Laws aren’t full of superfluous prose that can be easily removed; every single line has meaning and is important. If a bill is too complicated for a human to read, it’s too complicated for an AI summary, and way too complicated to be voted on.

It can read and summarize faster, and you can prompt it to look out for specific things. It's not perfect, but it can take an unreadable bill and let you know whether or not this is something to pass.

Granted, if it's unreadable it is not something you should pass.