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[quaawaa]

/r/fuckcars user is mad that his neighbors prefer to take a self-driving taxi to a basketball game instead of spending half an hour on the light rail:

By the way, since they filled up the Waymo, they were more efficient than you and your half-empty train.



Was their preconception wrong?

Nope (Archive).

Source (Archive)

 

[Xarpho's Return]

/r/fuckcars user is mad that his neighbors prefer to take a self-driving taxi to a basketball game instead of spending half an hour on the light rail:

The female /r/fuckcars users (including pooners) tend to be more histrionic while the male ones just pretend to be intellectually superior.

 

[F-14 Tomcat]

/r/fuckcars user is mad that his neighbors prefer to take a self-driving taxi to a basketball game instead of spending half an hour on the light rail:

How the encounter would have gone if OP was in fact not deranged:
"Hey did you know your tickets double as a light rail pass?"
"Wow that's great, however we'd still prefer to take the waymo"
"Oh okay have fun at the game"

 

[SpiderBitch]

Guess he hates kids.

In his utopia of the Netherlands, Morrocan city teens would call him a faggot over his silly looking bike (ive only seen mothers with multiple kids use models like these btw, both of these mainly get used to 'drive' around toddlers) and also either steal and sell it or accidentally run him over with their vespa.

Have to admit that a photo of a young, white & blond guy and girl biking trough a clean and pretty European shopping street makes for pretty effective propaganda tho, but funnily enough most shopping streets there are designed primarily for people ON FOOT and biking trough them as well as parking your bike directly on the sidewalks in front of stores, especially when its busy, is considered a dick move or straight up not allowed lmao, you're expected to park your bike in the bikeracks before going into the shopping streets (often located next to parking spaces for cars).

As far as I've seen the shopping streets where it is acceptable to bike have a combined CAR and bike road. And in the biggest cities its fairly common to have some big shopping streets with a busy car road in the middle and then foot-only alleys connected to them.

 

[Beautiful Border]

Only thing of note is his insistence for "third places designed primarily for adults".

And he never stops to ask himself why "third places only for adults" are typically drinking establishments. Because it turns out that unless you're talking about somewhere like a bar, a strip club, or a casino, there's no real justifiable reason to not allow children into a venue. Almost like in order to learn how to function in society you first have to be in society for some time, which is why we don't just keep people in test tubes for 18 years. Even a lot of British pubs (which Jason Slaughter continually gushes over, for some reason) will allow children as long as they aren't being served alcohol.

People like this keep saying how they want society to be without stopping to ask why society isn't like that already. People have kids, so if they want to go out somewhere they want to bring their kids with them. It's not a fucking conspiracy.

 

[Mister Fister]

I have a theory about these anti car faggots, I bet they also cope that anything that costs money is bad, that you're being wasteful if you spend beyond the bare minimum but will also drop those ideals if they suddenly had money.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Have to admit that a photo of a young, white & blond guy and girl biking trough a clean and pretty European shopping street makes for pretty effective propaganda tho, but funnily enough most shopping streets there are designed primarily for people ON FOOT and biking trough them as well as parking your bike directly on the sidewalks in front of stores, especially when its busy, is considered a dick move or straight up not allowed lmao, you're expected to park your bike in the bikeracks before going into the shopping streets (often located next to parking spaces for cars).

A lot of these European streets are just that...tourist spots to shop, eat, and see the sights. Large swathes of Amsterdam-Centrum, any "car-free" old European town/village (including Venice), dedicated shopping districts (usually with highly controlled, centralized leasing), that's not "real". A lot of these developments in the United States with extremely limited streets or no streets do have apartments, but the apartments are marketed as being in this controlled environment.

I've brought up the Domain before in Austin, specifically this intersection, a bugman's dream, apartments right across from an Apple store, and just a two lane slow street to get to it.

It is not a city. It is a shopping mall with apartments. The whole city and the greater economy is a network of houses, various commercial buildings (many of which are designed that WFH is not an option), government buildings (in Austin's case, and other capitals), warehouses and factories, schools, churches, parks, and the farms that stretch out for miles. Same for any city, really.

 

[Tour of Italy]

Y'all convenience stores ain't got no cultcha:
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A little late to this, but clearly this person has never been to a backwoods gas station in the south.

I have literally seen an Exxon with a grill, patio, and regular meal patrons lmao.

And that’s apart from the sea of unbranded country stores with gas pumps and three meals a day, farmers market out back, local goods etc.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

A little late to this, but clearly this person has never been to a backwoods gas station in the south.

I have literally seen an Exxon with a grill, patio, and regular meal patrons lmao.

And that’s apart from the sea of unbranded country stores with gas pumps and three meals a day, farmers market out back, local goods etc.

Yup.

I did mention fried chicken but barbecue is also a Texas tradition, not so much nowadays with brisket being so expensive, but even chain restaurants like Rudy's pay attention to their heritage and in many of their restaurants add a functioning gas station component.

It's not just the hatred of anyone not living in urban areas and a failure of understanding how important highways are for modern logistics, there's a real lack of respect for the road trip in these circles, especially how much they claim to love to travel. I know the "journey not the destination" is a trite, well-known saying and it's wrong because the destinations were important, but the journey was a huge part of it. Even in my current drives now I can identify and remember specific stretches of roads just by driving on them enough times (it helps to also have memorable audio--like driving on Loop 410 in San Antonio when Null was talking about Tommy Tooter shitting on peoples' lawns).

Edit: typo

 

[Yamamura]

And he never stops to ask himself why "third places only for adults" are typically drinking establishments. Because it turns out that unless you're talking about somewhere like a bar, a strip club, or a casino, there's no real justifiable reason to not allow children into a venue. Almost like in order to learn how to function in society you first have to be in society for some time, which is why we don't just keep people in test tubes for 18 years. Even a lot of British pubs (which Jason Slaughter continually gushes over, for some reason) will allow children as long as they aren't being served alcohol.

People like this keep saying how they want society to be without stopping to ask why society isn't like that already. People have kids, so if they want to go out somewhere they want to bring their kids with them. It's not a fucking conspiracy.

And then the places they do want like "bar-cades" are a niche demographic. I guessing anywhere like what he describes would close down due to lack of business after some time. Wanna play classic arcade games with friends while drinking? Buy a MAME arcade cabinet and some beer.. Oh also you're probably going to want a house as well.

But this really does drive home the point that not only do they not like kids, but their lifestyle straight up does not accommodate kids and they don't care if other people complain that their cargo bike lifestyle doesn't work for them. What they don't realize is that even if you have a cargo bike you can hold maybe one and a half kids in it, but you also need to carry around a lot more as well. What if your kids need a stroller? What if they need a cooler for snacks/formula? You're not fitting that in a container the size of a small wheelbarrow.

 

[SpiderBitch]

And he never stops to ask himself why "third places only for adults" are typically drinking establishments. Because it turns out that unless you're talking about somewhere like a bar, a strip club, or a casino, there's no real justifiable reason to not allow children into a venue. Almost like in order to learn how to function in society you first have to be in society for some time, which is why we don't just keep people in test tubes for 18 years. Even a lot of British pubs (which Jason Slaughter continually gushes over, for some reason) will allow children as long as they aren't being served alcohol.

People like this keep saying how they want society to be without stopping to ask why society isn't like that already. People have kids, so if they want to go out somewhere they want to bring their kids with them. It's not a fucking conspiracy.

Also, if you live somewhere more urban there's plenty of activities??? Book clubs, workshops meant for older people, cinemas playing movies (that arent meant for literal toddlers) during school hours, unknown musicians playing gigs at hipster bars located in alleys, whatever.

I get it if you live in an area thats kinda dead, but then if those places were to exist theyd be nearpy empty anyways.

The 'death of third spaces' thing also im pretty sure started as teenagers/young adults complaining that places like malls and skateparks are dying and cinemas etc are out of their price range now, not that the third spaces dont fit their exact tastes and have to be shared with other demographics...

What they don't realize is that even if you have a cargo bike you can hold maybe one and a half kids in it, but you also need to carry around a lot more as well

Tbf in glorius bikeland i see people fit like 6 kids in these, but trying that anywhere except bikeland&neighbours is extremely irresponsible. But most families with one of those do also have a car for when its needed, megabike is just for daily school dropoff and maybe some groceries.

 

[BulkForceFive]

How the encounter would have gone if OP was in fact not deranged:
"Hey did you know your tickets double as a light rail pass?"
"Wow that's great, however we'd still prefer to take the waymo"
"Oh okay have fun at the game"

"Yeah we're not riding the train to the NBA game, people get stabbed on that thing every time there's a game due to uh... socioeconomic factors"

 

[Trennschleifer]

Was their preconception wrong?

5 bucks on this redditor being a smelly pajeet. His love for stinky public transport and calling women "so beautiful, so hot" is a giveaway. Mans so close to just going full "post bobs" on these poor women.

Or he might just be massively autistic which also fits the crowd.

 

[Torque Wheeler]

Yup.

I did mention fried chicken but barbecue is also a Texas tradition, not so much nowadays with brisket being so expensive, but even chain restaurants like Rudy's pay attention to their heritage and in many of their restaurants add a functioning gas station component.

It's not just the hatred of anyone not living in urban areas and a failure of understanding how important highways are for modern logistics, there's a real lack of respect for the road trip in these circles, especially how much they claim to love to travel. I know the "journey not the destination" is a trite, well-known saying and it's wrong because the destinations were important, but the journey was a huge part of it. Even in my current drives now I can identify and remember specific stretches of roads just by driving on them enough times (it helps to also have memorable audio--like driving on Loop 410 in San Antonio when Null was talking about Tommy Tooter shitting on peoples' lawns).

Edit: typo

These people are afraid to get the most mind blowing barbeque they've ever had from a one-pump gas station that's burned down twice in the middle of the woods off a state route because it involves talking to the post-church crowd

 

[Mister Fister]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfJ0WadaQAA-mFG?format=jpg&name=small

 

[Kiska]

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I would complain about cops not enforcing road laws on bikers but they don't even pull over fucking wrong way drivers where I live

 

[quaawaa]

/r/fuckcars is happy that an e-bike is the fast way to get to LaGuardia from Times Square:

Article (Archive)

They’re mad that the article’s author mentioned that it’d be difficult to take a rental e-bike to the airport if you have luggage:


Also, 52 minutes is an incredibly slow time to get to the airport and only an urbanist would think that’s impressive and something to be proud of.

Source (Archive)

 

[x3firehexx]

Also, 52 minutes is an incredibly slow time to get to the airport and only an urbanist would think that’s impressive and something to be proud of.
Source (Archive)

I can get there faster via running

 

[LaxerBRO]

/r/fuckcars is happy that an e-bike is the fast way to get to LaGuardia from Times Square:
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Article (Archive)

They’re mad that the article’s author mentioned that it’d be difficult to take a rental e-bike to the airport if you have luggage:
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Also, 52 minutes is an incredibly slow time to get to the airport and only an urbanist would think that’s impressive and something to be proud of.

Source (Archive)

They forgot helicopter via the Blade company:

 

[Yamamura]

They’re mad that the article’s author mentioned that it’d be difficult to take a rental e-bike to the airport if you have luggage:

That pesky "reality" always getting in the way. The beauty (or annoyance) of these people is that no matter how infeasible it is that they always have some sort of bad solution that no normal person would want to do or even consider. You can never win because they'll always rebuttal with some horrible solution that isn't convenient nor practical.

For example if you mention you're bringing elderly people or children with you to the airport they would unironically tell them to bike too or take the bus. Or even suggest putting them in the basket of a cargo bike.