UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

Not really (from my perspective) - I'm replying to the "mystery" part.

Just as incel writing/areas of the internet can drive people to isolationism, anger and sometimes violence so to can intellectual writing/areas of the internet.

There's pictures and videos that can totally fuck up your mind and mental well being for years and there is also writing that can do the same.

Hint: there's a reason why I vague post about this kind of stuff - there is writing you can read out there that will make you totally miserable, depressed and anxious and destroy your life either for months or years or forever. I wouldn't seek it out tbh and I wouldn't share it.

It sounds like he gazed into the abyss for too long, asked "how do I curate my social media feed", couldn't figure out how to do so... And then the abyss gazed back.
I agree with you; during the pandemic I was in that place myself, and I think many Zoomers were in particular. However I got out of it, while it looks like Luigi was deeply affected by it. For that reason it has to be personal; many intelligent people, such as the saints or writers like Dostoevsky possessed profound insight into the perversity of the human will and still maintained faith. Luigi doesn't seem religious, and rate me autistic but I strongly suspect atheists are particularly susceptible to despair; they have no spiritual defenses against it and don't see the value of faith in spite of how dire things can be.
 
I agree with you; during the pandemic I was in that place myself, and I think many Zoomers were in particular. However I got out of it, while it looks like Luigi was deeply affected by it. For that reason it has to be personal; many intelligent people, such as the saints or writers like Dostoevsky possessed profound insight into the perversity of the human will and still maintained faith. Luigi doesn't seem religious, and rate me autistic but I strongly suspect atheists are particularly susceptible to despair; they have no spiritual defenses against it and don't see the value of faith in spite of how dire things can be.
I agree about faith. I'm not religious and it sucks dick to not have an instruction manual about life's most difficult things - sometimes, if I could snap my fingers and become a believer I almost wish I could. Unfortunately if you never believed to begin with and had religion/faith introduced non-forcefully (and also attempted forceful introduction) then I don't think it's possible to do so.

It's sad he didn't get out of it. And I don't know how I feel about the CEOs death still, but we're probably all lucky that someone with that kind of intelligence/patience didn't decide that the way to improve the world was to do something a lot more harmful. (That is not a suggestion that Luigi in particular would've but more a caution that if it were someone else who went off the deep end the result could be far worse)
 
I agree about faith. I'm not religious and it sucks dick to not have an instruction manual about life's most difficult things - sometimes, if I could snap my fingers and become a believer I almost wish I could. Unfortunately if you never believed to begin with and had religion/faith introduced non-forcefully (and also attempted forceful introduction) then I don't think it's possible to do so.
I have a similar background to you - grew up completely secular with some anti-theist influences, rebelled in Catholic school, was reading Richard Dawkins by 12. Over a decade later and I'm going to Mass the first time ever willingly this Christmas 🙏 Don't want to derail the thread but if you ever want to discuss philosophy in any detail PM me.

It's sad he didn't get out of it. And I don't know how I feel about the CEOs death still, but we're probably all lucky that someone with that kind of intelligence/patience didn't decide that the way to improve the world was to do something a lot more harmful. (That is not a suggestion that Luigi in particular would've but more a caution that if it were someone else who went off the deep end the result could be far worse)
It's also a great tragedy to me that a young man with such great character is likely going to rot in jail for the rest of his life, or at least the best part of it. Unlike a lot of the modern NPC types Luigi had real potential to give to the world it seems, even if it was "only" being a good friend to someone in his community. Given how he believed intergenerational trauma could be inherited in reference to his own family, I'd wager his family was likely somewhat dysfunctional, and that disconnection he felt from them played a hand in what he did.
 
Luigi Mangione has pled not guilty.

The suspect accused of killing UnitedHealthCare CEO Brian Thompson has pleaded not guilty to New York state murder and terrorism charges.

Luigi Mangione, 26, appeared in court on Monday to be arraigned on 11 state criminal counts, including murder a crime of terrorism.

He also faces with federal stalking and murder charges that could lead to a death penalty sentence.

Prosecutors allege that Mangione shot Thompson in central Manhattan before going on the run. Authorities later arrested him at a McDonald's in Pennsylvania.

BBC News - Luigi Mangione pleads not guilty to New York murder charges

 
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What I and everyone else would like to know is, Does he get conjugal visits in there? 🙀

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Luigi Mangione has pled not guilty.

The suspect accused of killing UnitedHealthCare CEO Brian Thompson has pleaded not guilty to New York state murder and terrorism charges.

Luigi Mangione, 26, appeared in court on Monday to be arraigned on 11 state criminal counts, including murder a crime of terrorism.

He also faces with federal stalking and murder charges that could lead to a death penalty sentence.

Prosecutors allege that Mangione shot Thompson in central Manhattan before going on the run. Authorities later arrested him at a McDonald's in Pennsylvania.

BBC News - Luigi Mangione pleads not guilty to New York murder charges

Mangione Pleads Not Guilty in First N.Y. State Court Appearance​

The Manhattan district attorney’s office has charged Luigi Mangione, who is accused of killing UnitedHealthcare’s chief executive, with first-degree murder, a terrorism-related offense.
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Luigi Mangione, the 26-year-old man charged with murder in the killing of UnitedHealthcare’s chief executive, pleaded not guilty on Monday as he was arraigned on murder charges in New York State Supreme Court.
The Manhattan district attorney’s office has charged Mr. Mangione with first-degree murder, a terrorism-related offense, as well as two variations of second-degree murder and weapons charges. He faces the possibility of life in prison without parole.
Prosecutors said in court filings last week that Mr. Mangione’s actions were meant to further terrorism and were “intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population” and to “affect the conduct of a unit of government by murder.”
Mr. Mangione also faces federal charges: The Southern District of New York charged him with murder through use of a firearm, which carries a maximum potential sentence of death, as well as two stalking counts and a firearms offense. He has pleaded not guilty to those charges as well.

The state case is expected to go to trial before the federal one, said Edward Y. Kim, the acting U.S. attorney for the Southern District, and state prosecutors said they would coordinate with federal agencies.
Mr. Mangione entered the courtroom for his arraignment on Monday wearing a maroon sweater and light-colored pants. His wrists and ankles were shackled. During the hearing, his lawyer, Karen Friedman Agnifilo, told the judge she was concerned about her client’s right to a fair trial. “His rights are being violated,” she said.
“He’s a young man, and he is being treated like a human ping pong ball,” she said, pointing to the federal and state cases and their differing arguments.
She also described Mr. Mangione’s perp walk after he was extradited to New York last week, during which he was accompanied by Mayor Eric Adams, as “unnecessary” and “utterly political.”
She suggested that Mr. Adams, who faces bribery and fraud charges, had taken part in hopes of distracting from his own case.

“What was the New York City mayor doing at this press conference,” she asked, adding that Mr. Adams “should know more than anyone about the presumption of innocence.”
The killing of the chief executive, Brian Thompson, renewed a debate about the American health care system. Many took to social media to voice their frustrations in their dealings with insurance companies and their practices of denying claims. Mr. Mangione became, to some, a folk hero.
On Monday, about a dozen spectators, mostly young women, were waiting in line just after 6 a.m. in 11-degree weather, hoping to get into the courtroom for the arraignment. Across the street, camera crews set up their lights and other equipment. One person held a cardboard sign with the words “Deny, Defend, Depose.” Another held a sign that read “United States Healthcare Stole My Livelihood.”
Mr. Thompson was walking to the entrance of a Hilton hotel in midtown Manhattan on the morning of Dec. 4 for an investor meeting when a masked and hooded gunman opened fire behind him. He was shot once in the back and once in the leg.
The authorities have said it was Mr. Mangione who waited nearly an hour outside the hotel that morning and raised a 3-D-printed 9-milimeter handgun fitted with a suppressor and fired at Mr. Thompson.

Mr. Mangione was arrested after a five-day manhunt. He was spotted eating hash browns at a McDonald’s in Altoona, Pa., by a fellow customer who remarked to a friend that he looked like the person in photos that had been released by the New York Police Department. An employee overheard the conversation and alerted the police.
He was found with a handgun, ammunition and a fake identification card, as well as a 262-word handwritten manifesto in which he appeared to take responsibility for the shooting. The manifesto also indicated that he saw the killing as a direct challenge to the health care industry’s “corruption” and “power games.”
Mr. Mangione also faces five charges in Pennsylvania, including carrying a gun without a license, forgery, falsely identifying himself to the authorities and possessing “instruments of crime,” according to a criminal complaint.
 
As I read through this thread, and see posters from all sides unite over something for the first time in my near decade here, I wonder about the handful of dissenters. Isn’t it interesting they are pushing the same points that known paid Russian shills are?

If a Tim Poole video costs Russia $100k or so, how much do you think it costs to pay some wage slave in Siberia to post about how they’re 100% definitely a healthcare worker who loves their billionaire overlords and would happily give their left testicle to save the CEO 25 cents? Just…a thought.

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Isn’t it interesting they are pushing the same points that known paid Russian shills are?
Still hanging on to this meme?

If you can direct me to where I can get paid to post the truth let me know.


Seriously, nobody other than online losers are "uniting" behind this killer. In real life most people see him for what he is, a coward that shot an unarmed innocent man with two kids in the back. But if this is what you want to hang your hats on then good luck.
 
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Still hanging in to this meme?

If you can direct me to where I can get paid to post the truth let me know.


Seriously, nobody other than online losers are "uniting" behind this killer. In real life most people see him for what he is, a coward that shot an unarmed innocent man with two kids in the back. But if this is what you want to hang your hats on then good luck.
Shut up nerd
 
Seriously, nobody other than online losers are "uniting" behind this killer. In real life most people see him for what he is, a coward that shot an unarmed innocent man with two kids in the back.
Innocent? Hardly. Unarmed? I'm sure Brian had his usual murder weapon on him: a pen.
But if this is what you want to hang your hats on then good luck.
A coward would make a good hatstand.
 
Still hanging in to this meme?

If you can direct me to where I can get paid to post the truth let me know.


Seriously, nobody other than online losers are "uniting" behind this killer. In real life most people see him for what he is, a coward that shot an unarmed innocent man with two kids in the back. But if this is what you want to hang your hats on then good luck.
"come on guys think of the CHILDREN!" faggot.
 
Given the fact that they are trying to slap him with federal charges and "terrorism" so they can execute him I can see why he would plead not guilty. It's absurdly obvious that the powers that be want to stop anyone from getting ideas about making the unaccountable elites accountable. If Luigi was Tyrone and instead of a CEO he had shot a random salaryman or blue collar he would have already gotten bail, and the state of NY wouldn't even try to push federal charges. It's funny how the same politicians and NGOs who keep talking shit about the death penalty being evil and "reformative restorative justice" are all either silent or have done a total 180.
 

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Mr Mangione is facing 11 state criminal counts in New York, including first-degree murder and murder as a crime of terrorism.

If convicted of all the counts, he would face a mandatory sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Federal prosecutors have also separately charged Mr Mangione for using a firearm to commit murder and interstate stalking resulting in death. Both charges could make him eligible for the death penalty.

He has yet to enter a plea on those charges.

Prosecutors have said the federal and state cases will move forward parallel with one another.

In court last week, Mr Mangione's lawyer - Karen Friedman Agnifilo - said that the two sets of charges appear to conflict, with the state charges accusing him of seeking to "intimidate or coerce a civilian population" while the federal charges focus on crimes against an individual.

Ms Agnifilo said that the overlapping cases were "confusing" and "highly unusual".

"I've never seen anything like what is happening here" in 30 years of practicing law, she said.

In court on Monday, she further told the judge that she believed that statements from government officials - including New York City Mayor Eric Adams - make her "very concerned about my client's right to a fair trial".

"This is a young man," she said. "He is being treated like a human ping-pong ball between warring jurisdictions here."

The judge, Gregory Carro, said that he is unable to control what happens outside court, but vowed that Mr Mangione would receive a fair trial.
 
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