Libertarianism is it worth it? - I think its not

[Soulless4510]

I want to ask the question is Libertarianism worth it now as a Political philosophy because as it stands more people are going for more populist candidates like Trump while he was booed at the Libertarian party convention and won bigely in November so is Libertarianism is it worth it or do you throw it in the bin?

 

[Internet Wizard]

No

 

[Schwarzwald]

Libertarianism has its place in certain fields, but as an encompassing ideology, in its purest form, is completely unviable to govern much of anything.

Its value comes in its neutrality and impartiality. You need a true libertarian outlook in certain areas to ensure freedom, but absolutely cannot implement it as your overarching guiding philosophy because it's impractical.

 

[batterybee]

Libertarianism is a worthless cancer.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

You need a true libertarian outlook in certain areas to ensure freedom, but absolutely cannot implement it as your overarching guiding philosophy because it's impractical.

I believe in the next 20-30 years we'll probably see more Libertarian leaders and we'll see what does and doesn't work long term. Especially if Milei's success is anything to go off of.

 

[Jesse Nicholas Radin]

The Libertarian party is caving in to socially conservative idiots. Yet I'm still registered as one.....

 

[Rick Nekieta]

This site has much freer speech than any major platform on the internet (with the possible exception of Gab) and I think by virtue of posting here, there is a concession that many of the guiding principles of libertarianism are worthy endeavors. Although my avatar is also an argument that this is a tricky matter to navigate and a broad discussion need be had, it is not a simple matter.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

What even is libertarianism?

Like someone could have a "libertarian outlook" on something, but it seems to be a largely reactive ideology. For someone to claim they're a libertarian like it's a genuine political position comes off sort of retarded, and that's borne out because most people who claim they're libertarians tend to be retarded.

Libertarians seem to be people with very poorly developed, myopic views on politics and really the world in general; they just know they want to smoke weed or have sex with animals or w/e and don't like the idea of authority figures so they call themselves a libertarian. Realistically libertarianism isn't any more respectable as a concept than anarchism, at least as far as I've seen.

No

In that case I change my mind, libertarianism is a very sound and worthwhile ideology.

 

[Kovachs]

Libertarianism is more of an ethical worldview you can choose to subscribe to or not. The question of whether it is a viable political ideology as an application of a certain set of ethical beliefs is different from whether or not those beliefs are valuable to hold in and of themselves. The LP is not exactly the best or only conceivable application of libertarian ethics as a political movement or ideology. Now, the reverse is also true. You can sympathize with certain aspects of their political movement or ideology without agreeing with libertarianism as an ethical worldview. So I think this question is malformed.

 

[Pedophobe]

Libertarianism, like democracy or republicanism or progressivism or conservatism or liberalism, is a broad philosophy you can draw value from as needed. The actual party orgs that claim those terms as their political brand names tend to be psychopathic grifters.

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

How the fuck are people on this forum still trapped in absolute retarded extremes with the isms? Do you think that if you focus on freedom when possible, or the best option, you give up the right to say "no, sorry, that freedom is retarded, let's have reasonable limits?" Literally every political ideology has a set of freedoms associated with it on some level.

 

[glue eater]

Nuff said.

 

[I (Don't) Have A Gun]

Eh Libertarianism seems to be one of those iffy political terms, with seemingly a different definition for each person that uses it.
I like small government, and I like free markets. But then there's some libertarians who want every road to be a toll-roads and the police and fire-department to hand you a bill afterwards. Not sure I'm fully onboard with that.
So some ideas I like some I don't but I can't even say which ideas are universally "libertarian" or not, because beyond vague high level concepts when it comes to the practical application of those ideas there's too much variety.

So maybe? I don't know, can't say unless we establish a strict narrow definition of libertarianism with the understanding that getting to that definition will probably involve a lot of "nah ah"s being thrown around.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Murray rothbard contradicts himself in his own writings constantly you can't enforce morality upon people also here's what the non aggression principle means also air pollution is a violation the non aggression principle but I also don't wanna stay but we're gonna have some sort of enforcement organization we could call that a state.

 

[Freshly Baked Socks]

No, I am not throwing libertarianism into the bin just because Trump has won over the Republican Party through populist means.

That makes as much sense as throwing my cheese into the garbage just because it has a sell by date on the label.

 

[kickingstones]

I have a lot of libertarian tendencies but would never describe myself as such.

I find Libertarianism to be a purity test and a feeble attempt to create a retarded utopia.

I love Ron Paul but he could never do what Trump accomplished.

 

[Black Man Underwear]

What is libertarianism? I have asked many self identified libertarians this question.

Some argue it's classical liberalism applied to all of politics. It can help, but it often leads to centralization of power in the hands of the financial class.
Some argue it's anarcho capitalism. It has never existed or been applied. It can be compared to periods in history, but it has never actually been attempted. The NAP is a fantasy. IMO AnCap would start a massive civil war, and end with a definitely-not-free-market dictatorship.

I support Ron Paul only to end the Fed. Private companies should not print public money.

Economic policy is more than a flowchart. Making America better requires an active government, and a non-corrupt government is the only way to do that. We have massive corruption in America, it's well known that private companies bribe government employees to pass bills all the time.

"Libertarianism" would just make things worse faster. Ex. BlackRock profited massively from selling weapons to Ukraine. The last thing we need is to let them have their own private CIA.

What is the difference between an empowered company and a government? Nothing. Not even motive.

 

[Skitarii]

What even is libertarianism?

Libertarianism is when rich people do stuff I don't like

 

[Slap47]

Libertarian is the agnostic of politics.

It doesn't mean anything. It vaguely means "I like freedom" when actually applied to the people who use the label, but does not discern any actual policies. Plenty of libertarians are social conservatives or even ethnonationalist paleoconservatives that want to ban a laundry list of things. The other half of libertarians are the complete opposite type of people who focus solely on unbanning alot of things. This applies even to the economy as it seems like half of Libertarians do not actually care about having a liberal economy. This does not even include "Libertarian socialists" who worship autocratic regimes like Russia and China (note, many rightwing libertarians also openly worship autocratic regimes).

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

The Libertarian party is caving in to socially conservative idiots. Yet I'm still registered as one.....

Good, maybe they'll be worth a damn. Stay registered faggot.