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Another compromised account. Everyone shows their true colors eventually
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Always a wonder how every time stats are showing Americans dumpstering or right near the total of every scientific field and having 2x the STEM graduates as we do job openings that they get totally ignored and people just post dumb shit like this.

We have the workers they don't get the jobs. Who would you rather hire Tom who wants fair pay and doesn't want to do 80 hours on salary or achmed and mansoor who will combined work for less then Tom and live the job even if their work quality is way worse the will work all day and can't go to another company cause you have them under H1B control? It's not rocket science.
 
We just need a Chinese Exclusion Act 3.0 and an Indian exclusion act. For China it's easy, cite Salt Typhoon as a terrorist cell and do the same shit he did with restricting immigration from terrorist countries, better yet just declare the CCP a terrorist org. For India just point out that they're stinky. If congress says anything just ask the simple question I poised upthread, can congress impeach faster than a hellfire missile can land on Congress?
 
Welp. This Elon thing just makes reinforced more and more that the right amuses me just as much as the left at this point.

I mean:

The white nationalists have a gay Mexican catboy who also doubles as a fed as their main guy.

The conspiracy theorists have a fat man who sells boner pills and fearporn for a living, as their goto guy

the evangelicals have a fat billionaire who appeared on the cover of Playboy, married a prostitute, and I guarantee hasnt been to church in the past 20 years if ever, to bring God back to the country or whatever,the conservatives have him promise to bring jobs back despite the fact that he couldn't run a casino right, the man who promises to deport all the brown people again despite not doing that the last time he promised it.

And then we move to now where oh my, the African moneyman who already did a turncoat during Trump's first run... *Gasp* he did it AGAIN! and he has a pet indian this time to justify why he needs more indians to pay less than he would have to pay you.

Most of whom previously mentioned, used to be belonging to the Democratic party, even trump.

How everyone keeps falling for this shit is beyond me. It's a circus. On both sides. Watch and laugh.

Dont even get started on the lot who thinks the same groups of people who tried to ban every game under the sun for being too violent or sexual, since the days of MORTAL KOMBAT, were going to make media good again. No they'll remove the niggers and woke from it, no doubt about that. And when it's gone, they'll remove the tits, and the ass and the woman, and then the game itself because at the end of the day, it's all bullshit.


It's a laughingstock. All of it!
Thank you for listening to my rambles.
 
This “Department of Government Efficiency” nonsense doesn’t seem to be going too well. Speedrun department closure, abolished before it even formed lmao.
Realistically DOGE was never going to amount to anything. They'd slice some easy low-hanging fruit stuff that the Congress is too chickenshit to try to defund like Medicare and Medicaid and SNAP, but besides that they were never going to fire Federal employees, never going to do much of anything really. The whole thing was a vehicle for Elon and Vivek to get screentime and probably for Elon to hypertarget NASA.
 
This does not answer how this is supposed to help American workers. How does lowering the minimum age for employment help offset fair wages for farmers?
I'm not aware of previouse forum interacts between you two, so I may be missing context.

In rural communities children often do chores or farm labor. One of the reason kids have off of school in the summer was to help on the farm. It was much more common in the past. Child labor laws have curtailed it quite a bit. Nowadays it is basically restricted to close family (if even that).

Children (including highschool students) could probably gain valuable skills from doing seasonal farm labor. If it was done correctly it would benefit everyone. My mental pattern thinks of boy scouts, mentorship, internship, summer camp, and community building. It also gives the opportunity for young people to experience things they wouldn't ordinarily do and to get outside and experience nature.

We might benefit from more people knowing where food comes from. And, knowing what a hard days work feels like. Knowing the limits of their body. Teamwork.

But, given our current society I don't think Congress passing some laws and Trump saying a few nice things would get those results. Maybe if RFK Jr was heavily involved and 4H was completely overhauled. Liberals would have to stop hating "rednecks" and conservatives would probably have to be willing to piss off Monsanto and John Deer.

You know, like the jewish Kibbutz in Israel.
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The sad fact is that I've never seen him react this intensely and other people are coming to the conclusion that he just fucking loves legal immigration and it's something he will probably never give up on.
Optimisticrainbowtake: He is just a fucking idiot and genuinely believes that "hard work and determination" really does make one successful, and has genuinely convinced himself that these H1B drones are superior to the American worker and integral to his success as a businessman (neglecting that his businesses are successful because of Government subsidies...lol!)
Doompill: He is attack-dogging and misdirecting for Trump's actual policy plans like giving green cards to all international citizens, so as to misdirect and keep attention away from the big guy.
 
I am asking how lowering the minimum working age is going to help grown American workers and not just create more competition which will lead to wage stifling. If they really want children to learn how their food is made and processed they can schedule a field trip to a nearby farm and show them. You don't need to train kids on how to pick fruits from a field.
 
As an American who married a Korean H1B holder (she's a citizen now) we need to cut these work permits by at least 95%. There are companies that hire only H1Bs and pay their skilled labor McDonald's wages or less, and don't pay them overtime. So it's not that there aren't Americans that can't/won't do the work, it's these companies that don't want to compensate workers with an appropriate wage.
I think that back in the 1990s when H1Bs first came into being a thing it made some sense. There were a lot of talented people from eastern Europe that were unemployed after the Eastern Block fell. Japan and the rest of eastern Asia were still upward trending societies with new great people coming about everyday there inspite of the economic crash there then. The middle east even still had few good talented people you'd want to employ back then. But a lot has changed and the current global demographic change since the 90s means we would no longer will ever get those kind of people ever again.

The real problem isn't just that the H1Bs are replacing highly desired middle class jobs but it is also importing an another hostile pro-globalist ruling class that hates the people of this country. Who absolutely have the power to destroy this country. Look at how the Indians got up the ranks in Silicon Valley and how they see the rest of us.
 
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Elon is still retard posting lol "some degree of fraud in H1B" you mean an extreme majority as seen on the govt website for H1B.

The sad fact is that I've never seen him react this intensely and other people are coming to the conclusion that he just fucking loves legal immigration and it's something he will probably never give up on.
Hmm. If I was to be harsh, it reminds me of this farmer kid I know. Rich faggot. Loves immigrants and cheap labor. I told him that was idiotic and he reacted... similarly to Elon to tell you the truth. It was all about money with him. Line go up. Everyone is replacable. If the illegial Mexicans acted up, talked back, he shipped them back, because they didn't have any other choice. Not gonna lie, I think that is a lot how Elon thinks.
 
When someone is wrong, the first response is to double down. These words definitely have worked in board rooms and investor meetings. Elon, being a autistic galaxy brain, is saying it publicly. Because he's mad and frankly doesn't understand. It's how he runs his business. Getting told by ZA WALDO that you're retarded is going to hurt your ego, especially one the size of Mars such as Elon's. Again, let this twitter fight play out.
I like your optimism, not like we can do much but watch and laugh at this point. Best outcome would be Musk actually coming out the otherside with a new understanding of what it actually means to be American, but I'm afraid that's going to be pretty unlikely. I can still hope for it.
 
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