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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[FedPostalService]

The policy to prop up house prices at all costs has been devastating.

Preach, sister! Gearing the entire economy to seemingly just focus on house prices in the south east of England is utterly retarded.

By being obsessed with them constantly having to increase has made them completely unaffordable. The build quality is mostly shite too now.

How are Labour getting on with building the billions of houses they promised?

I could rant abut this for hours.

 

[-Jack-]

Well like most people, I don't have the luxury to leave the country so I guess I'll make the most of it.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

No mainstream politician is going to address this problem in the UK for at least thirty years or so. This is your future if you stay here.

I've been telling Brits to leave and all they do is mock the USA. I think that even happened in the thread about the summer riots.

I understand the desire to fix one's homeland, but the UK is a fundamentally class-based society and you are fucked if your mum and dad are working class and you didn't go to public school. I know Brits who immigrated to the US and they are a lot happier for it.

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

I moved to Australia a while ago but I return for Christmas to see my family every year, the worst part about comparing the two is that rents and house prices in the south of the UK now outpace the region of Australia I'm in whereas 5 years ago it was definitely much more in Australia. The cost of living has, apart from groceries, gone up much faster in the UK from what I can see.

I don't know if it's just the fact that I'm from Britain so I notice them more, but it feels like I meet so many Brits down under who have moved over, especially nurses. This brain drain cannot be good for the UK but it's not like I can really speak against it having done the same myself. It does seem to be that any skilled professional gets paid a fair bit more in Aus and with the new post-Brexit trade deal, it's even easier to get visas for Aus and NZ.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

One of the major industries of this country is wee lassies being paid to bring up kids most of the time they are awake, and that service to cost pretty much all the money their actual mother can earn to pay for it. All that increases is the tax take. It is devastating to quality of life.

That was 40 years ago. Nowadays those young lasses are paid benefits to fire out sprogs and sit at home in a council flat while getting high.
The jobs you mentioned are now occupied by third world niggettes who treat the elderly and young the same; like they're dogs who need whipping whenever they act up.

We need to decide whether this is a necessary economic realignment and we will just need to take the pain, or whether something needs to be done to protect that sector of the economy.

It was necessary...eight years ago. Now the optimistic pipe dream of 'painful readjustment' is just that.

Our education system is bullshit

It is and Eastern European nations are focusing on teaching their kids English on top of their mother tongue and western skills to give them more chance of landing a job over here.

It has transitioned most families into families where everyone needs as much paid work outside the home as possible,

Woah, there. Are you saying feminism's push to get more women in the work place was an underhanded bait-and-switch to double tax revenue and increase output, and not about women's rights not to be a housewife and look after their husbands and children? Because I sure am saying that.

No mainstream politician is going to address this problem in the UK for at least thirty years or so. This is your future if you stay here.

I agree 100%. That's why I don't live here permanently and spend 6 months of the year abroad in my foreign hide-away house.

Well like most people, I don't have the luxury to leave the country so I guess I'll make the most of it.

That's bullshit that you've been fed. You can afford it (if you don't have a wife and kids) even then, it's affordable, just a little bit more tricky.
Trust me bro, the system has convinced you that you can't leave Britain. It's not true, you can leave and live a whole new, happier life, without much upset or challenge to your day to day living (YMMV).

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

Well like most people, I don't have the luxury to leave the country so I guess I'll make the most of it.

Simple, get a 3 year working holiday visa to Australia or NZ and shack up with a local before times up and get your residency that way.

 

[-Jack-]

Just out or pure curiosity and without being specific, what industries are you both in? @BrightonAndHoveAlbion @Bog-standard Poster

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Just out or pure curiosity and without being specific, what industries are you both in? @BrightonAndHoveAlbion @Bog-standard Poster

I try not to stick to one industry or role, I have more feathers in my hat than the monopoly man falling head-first into a chicken coop.
The common thread of my roles is been involved in or orbiting 'making shit'.

That said, some countries you can live in while earning minimum wage. If you're really desperate, you can sell pictures of your arsehole and feet and make enough money to live in some non-wog, non-brownoid parts of the world.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

That's bullshit that you've been fed. You can afford it (if you don't have a wife and kids) even then, it's affordable, just a little bit more tricky.
Trust me bro, the system has convinced you that you can't leave Britain. It's not true, you can leave and live a whole new, happier life, without much upset or challenge to your day to day living (YMMV).

This is dead on. As long as you aren't a criminal or a complete layabout, leaving the UK is not hard. Immigrating to the US is a lot more straightforward than many think.

Not that this is a 1:1 for anyone here, but I know many Americans who became US citizens in short order by enlisting in the US military. Honorable service fast-tracks applications and waives a lot of fees. Most join the US Army, get a non-combat job (the US Army guarantees your job at enlistment, unlike every other branch), do their service, and then bring their family over. Another advantage is they pick an MOS that has civilian applications and get free job training. The Army pays for your certifications. One guy I know worked on trucks in the Army and now he's a mechanic.

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

Just out or pure curiosity and without being specific, what industries are you both in? @BrightonAndHoveAlbion @Bog-standard Poster

I moved over with a job in the trades but I quit that long ago to drive big lorries in the desert because I like sitting on my arse.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

The UK is no longer a first world country.

You say that, but we're still in the top 10 countries by GDP, as we probably have been for the last thousand years. Maybe this is just proof that the more useful measure, GDP per capita, always gets ignored.

Is that the true sentiment about the UK? If London disappears then we would turn out like some poor eastern/Balkan European country? I know capital cities in most European countries are the powerhouse for most of the country but I feel like if you took Berlin out of Germany it would still be okay? Thoughts?

I read an article about this once, which basically said, yes, London is far bigger than it should be, and Manchester and Birmingham are far smaller than they should be. We're not quite as top-heavy as places like the Czech Republic or Estonia, but yeah, it's not healthy.

I've been telling Brits to leave and all they do is mock the USA. I think that even happened in the thread about the summer riots.

I understand the desire to fix one's homeland, but the UK is a fundamentally class-based society and you are fucked if your mum and dad are working class and you didn't go to public school. I know Brits who immigrated to the US and they are a lot happier for it.

Unfortunately anti-Americanism is part of what it means to be British nowadays. "That's how the Americans do it" is an argument against pretty much everything.
I've considered emigrating to the US, but it's a very different place. Things like: working practices, the religious Right, gun culture, tipping culture, quite how earnest it all is, the fact that some people don't hate all politicians, tolerance of crime, tolerance of drugs, the lingering remnants of troonery, the black underclass, the Hispanic underclass...

 

[A-Logato]

Is that the true sentiment about the UK? If London disappears then we would turn out like some poor eastern/Balkan European country? I know capital cities in most European countries are the powerhouse for most of the country but I feel like if you took Berlin out of Germany it would still be okay? Thoughts?

Outside of London the country is incredibly poor economically and relies heavily on the hospitality industry. We don't produce or export much or bring in much capital and the little we do is funnelled into London or they directly invest in London. Not to say there are not areas that do have money circulating around them but going to some northern city like Manchester, Leeds or Newcastle vs London is night and day economically.

 

[-Jack-]

The common thread of my roles is been involved in or orbiting 'making shit'.

you can sell pictures of your arsehole

I like sitting on my arse.

So I highlighted these parts because I interpreted that you both to think I should sell my asshole online? Thank you for passing down wise advice to the younger generation frens <3

 

[Mound Dweller]

My plan is that if the economy really does get that bad I'm just eating people, I tell this to grumpy old gits in the pub and they think I'm joking but I'm not.

Outside of London the country is incredibly poor economically and relies heavily on the hospitality industry. We don't produce or export much or bring in much capital and the little we do is funnelled into London or they directly invest in London. Not to say there are not areas that do have money circulating around them but going to some northern city like Manchester, Leeds or Newcastle vs London is night and day economically.

Ever since the pajeets undercut us on call centres my shire's wonderful outcome for employment prospects is based entirely on warehousing bullshit, they've spent the last decade concreting over my views to throw up metal shacks to stash boxes of £3 crap in so they can hire a rotating band of swarthoids and press-ganged dole-dossers to fill up vans like that one episode of South Park.
It's all incredibly fragile I think lead balloons would have been a sounder investment, one of the companies involved actually went bust and got bailed out by one of the big boys but now they're also in trouble and are begging the council for tax relief.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

So I highlighted these parts because I interpreted that you both to think I should sell my asshole online? Thank you for passing down wise advice to the younger generation frens <3

Send me pictures of your browneye and I'll let you know if they're sellable.

 

[A-Logato]

My plan is that if the economy really does get that bad I'm just eating people, I tell this to grumpy old gits in the pub and they think I'm joking but I'm not.

Ever since the pajeets undercut us on call centres my shire's wonderful outcome for employment prospects is based entirely on warehousing bullshit, they've spent the last decade concreting over my views to throw up metal shacks to stash boxes of £3 crap in so they can hire a rotating band of swarthoids and press-ganged dole-dossers to fill up vans like that one episode of South Park.
It's all incredibly fragile I think lead balloons would have been a sounder investment, one of the companies involved actually went bust and got bailed out by one of the big boys but now they're also in trouble and are begging the council for tax relief.

As someone who has worked in call centres once upon a time yeah there all full off or contract Pajeets in India to do all the work for them now. Their not even good at their jobs and tend to take all the low skilled jobs because they don't how to do anything beyond basic office 365, though all these small fast jobs makes their KPI's look good on paper so they hire more up until one becomes manager and then the nepotism goes into overdrive.

Also warehouses are just full of Polarks at this point. I personally have a fairly cushy job that took me a long time of swimming through this river of shit to get but I really don't see myself staying around where I live or in this country even within the short term. Job prospect wise it's none existent and the upwards mobility is pitiful unless I either want to join the Polarks in a warehouse or work in a Tesco.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Job prospect wise it's none existent and the upwards mobility is pitiful unless I either want to join the Polarks in a warehouse or work in a Tesco.

Would you work in a warehouse for six months a year, to then live abroad in the sun for the other six months?

 

[A-Logato]

Would you work in a warehouse for six months a year, to then live abroad in the sun for the other six months?

I'd consider it but I'd rather move somewhere and not just do nigger work which they could then justify deporting me under being "low skilled" at any point.

 

[Mound Dweller]

As someone who has worked in call centres once upon a time yeah there all full off or contract Pajeets in India to do all the work for them now. Their not even good at their jobs and tend to take all the low skilled jobs because they don't how to do anything beyond basic office 365, though all these small fast jobs makes their KPI's look good on paper so they hire more up until one becomes manager and then the nepotism goes into overdrive.

Also warehouses are just full of Polarks at this point. I personally have a fairly cushy job that took me a long time of swimming through this river of shit to get but I really don't see myself staying around where I live or in this country even within the short term. Job prospect wise it's none existent and the upwards mobility is pitiful unless I either want to join the Polarks in a warehouse or work in a Tesco.

They really do ruin everything with their caste nonsense, happened to my local KFC of all places after they got a jeet manager and within 6 months the C was for curry, got shut down for not bribing the food safety people enough I think.
When I spent one shift in a warehouse a few years ago (never again) I was the only native there other than a 50 year old obvious crackhead , the rest of them were fresh off the eurotunnel slavs, it's a bit different now demographically (mostly school drop outs if the broccoli hair is anything to go by) because the jobcentres make them get jobs there now I think it's probably some future scandal.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I've considered emigrating to the US, but it's a very different place. Things like: working practices, the religious Right, gun culture, tipping culture, quite how earnest it all is, the fact that some people don't hate all politicians, tolerance of crime, tolerance of drugs, the lingering remnants of troonery, the black underclass, the Hispanic underclass...

Most of what you list here is either a net benefit (guns) or is anti-American propaganda (crime is not rampant, we hate our politicians, etc). Don't believe the doomers on the Internet.