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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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spread happiness@p4leandp1nk
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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Even kids are using American terms, the amount of times I have heard them refer to secondary as "high school" it's so weird to me.

Should not be very surprising. All kids tv is American. Majority of top YouTubers are also.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

Even kids are using American terms, the amount of times I have heard them refer to secondary as "high school" it's so weird to me.

It was like that in the 90s. Even the schools called themselves that.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

Should not be very surprising. All kids tv is American. Majority of top YouTubers are also.

Once upon a time, we used to make our own children's programming, for dedicated children's entertainment blocs on mainstream television - after school, from three to six, and then on Saturday mornings. These programmes were charming, educational, high quality, distinctly British and often fondly remembered by those growing up at the time.

Then - and maybe this is just my take here - but Pokemon happened in the late '90s, and was such a gigantic hit with children, that we started importing shows en masse from America, a significant amount of it American dubs of anime weebshit to cash in on the craze, which was much cheaper than making your own programming, building props, puppets, sets, paying actors, etc.

I feel like this is something that doesn't get talked about a lot, but there is basically no locally made entertainment aimed at children in this country any more. There is no modern equivalent of the likes of CITV and CBBC - that stuff's shunted onto it's own dedicated containment channel. Children are not a demographic that mainstream television channels are really interested in catering to any more.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Then - and maybe this is just my take here - but Pokemon happened in the late '90s, and was such a gigantic hit with children, that we started importing shows en masse from America, a significant amount of it American dubs of anime weebshit to cash in on the craze, which was much cheaper than making your own programming, building props, puppets, sets, paying actors, etc.

No, that pretty much tracks. There was definately a shift. The second everywhere got cable as well…

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

I 'member, before enforced digital TV, my parents always commenting on how the (I'm paraphrasing here) 'socio-economic' factors of an area were directly proportional to the amount of satellite dishes you could see on the houses.

I remember being stuck with only the analogue channels back in a time when you could watch most major sporting events without a subscription to MurdochTV. Getting a digibox with access to Freeview was massive in my house.

 

[-Jack-]

One of my favourite kids show ‘Come Outside’

 

[FedPostalService]

Transformers > any British kids TV.

There’s plenty of things to be proud of in this country but our gay arse kids TV shows ran by actual paedophiles isn’t one of them.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

Transformers > any British kids TV.

 

[Kier Starmer]

My issue with kids TV growing up is it just felt kinda boomerish, it felt like it languished in the 80s and stayed there and modernized too late. It was all like teleplays like the queens nose or the Demon Headmaster and meanwhile Pokemon and TMNT and Transformers, Megatron is based AF. Bare in mind my mum was one of the few that was petrified by Jimmy Saville but I did for some odd reason like Come Outside. I am glad Aunt Mable is dead before she could see the hellscape we live in and her plane would probably be torn apart by gypsies for scrap.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

Their subsequent post talks about the school's vice-principle. I'm horrified to find schools are now using the American terms for heads and deputy heads.

It's an incredibly minor thing and there's nothing inherently wrong with the titles. But we're a different country and should not be sucking up American terms and using them.

I blame Hollywood for starting it, and new media/social media, like Youtube, for massively accelerating it. Globalization is a bitch.

Even kids are using American terms, the amount of times I have heard them refer to secondary as "high school" it's so weird to me.

All kids tv is American. Majority of top YouTubers are also.

While we're on the topic of kid's TV, and just as the thought occurs to me, do you remember when arguably Britain's last great children's TV show, Peppa Pig, started becoming wildly popular in America, and so many parents in Burgerland got butthurt that little Lakynn and McKarty were talking with British accents and using British idioms that it literally made the news?

But it's OK for them to shit out all of their Amerislop over here for decade after decade, until all our kids start using their terminology and using their slang?

Hmm...

 

[Mound Dweller]

But it's OK for them to shit out all of their Amerislop over here for decade after decade, until all our kids start using their terminology and using their slang?

This is what happens when you're the bottom in a special relationship, just wait till we start getting the cast-off chlorine chicken, if Putin gassed more CIAs in Norfolk and fewer oldsters around Salisbury he'd be a lot more popular.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

My issue with kids TV growing up is it just felt kinda boomerish, it felt like it languished in the 80s and stayed there and modernized too late.

Did it  need to 'modernise'? To cynically chase trends, and arguably be weaker for it?

Just to compare and contrast.

Watch the intro to The World of Peter Rabbit and Friends, an animated adaptation of Beatrix Potter's classic children's books.

The beautiful, sedate English countryside, soft music, comfortable, cozy, lulling you into a charming story. Culture, nature, heritage. The land you live on. There's something, for want of a better word, 'magical' about it.

Now, look at what kids watch today, for contrast.

Awful. Horrendous. Soulless, Americanised CGI slop, loud and obnoxious and fast-paced, because God fucking forbid children are bored or confused or made to fucking think for 0.7 milliseconds, made for an audience of ADHD riddled spackers who'd literally rather be watching anything else.

 

[FedPostalService]

I will say Hey Duggee is amazing.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

While we're on the topic of kid's TV, and just as the thought occurs to me, do you remember when arguably Britain's last great children's TV show, Peppa Pig, started becoming wildly popular in America, and so many parents in Burgerland got butthurt that little Lakynn and McKarty were talking with British accents and using British idioms that it literally made the news?

But it's OK for them to shit out all of their Amerislop over here for decade after decade, until all our kids start using their terminology and using their slang?

Hmm...

I've sperged out about this in countless threads, probably this one as well, but TL;DR - it's a take over by America. Lingual changes succeed a war. Seems as we don't need the war part to get to a foreign country, we just need to change the language.

TL;DR -TL;DR - War weapons are dead, the use of psychological propaganda to conquer foreign lands is the way of the world now.

My fave kids tv show was Animals of Farthing Wood.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

I've just noticed that even @Chaotic Pizzaparty used the American spelling of 'modernised' in his post earlier. There's no Z (pronounced 'zed', by the way) in that word.

THEY'VE GOTTEN TO YOU! THE FILTHY FUCKING YANKS HAVE GOTTEN TO YOU!!

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Awful. Horrendous. Soulless, Americanised CGI slop, loud and obnoxious and fast-paced, because God fucking forbid children are bored or confused or made to fucking think for 0.7 milliseconds, made for an audience of ADHD riddled spackers who'd literally rather be watching anything else.

Wasn’t it proven recently via someone looking into Coco Melon of all things that the fast is actuallly causing the problem. It’s not that they had ADHD etc. it’s that the programming now is designed to be crack for them. And that is bad.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

I've just noticed that even @Chaotic Pizzaparty used the American spelling of 'modernised' in his post earlier. There's no Z (pronounced 'zed', by the way) in that word.

THEY'VE GOTTEN TO YOU! THE FILTHY FUCKING YANKS HAVE GOTTEN TO YOU!!

I know you're not entirely serious, but the -ize spelling is the traditional one. The -ise spelling came about because people wanted English to look like French, for some reason.

My own usage of -ize is prompted far more by hatred of the French than love of the Americans.

 

[A-Logato]

I can say from having a much younger sister and being forced to endure modern child programming, I'll admit I'd rather have them watch something off of the BBC or ITV then be left to watch the utter swill what is kids YouTube content. Some modern kids content was actually pretty good and I'd have no issue with my own kids watching it but other was just over hyperactive American slop.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

I miss Sooty and Friends, I had the exploding cupcakes episode on video and watched it all the time until it broke.

 

[Slimy Time]

Visit Eastern Europe. Find a country that you think sounds like a third world, rundown, poor, amenity-deprived shithole and pay it a visit, even for a weekend.
You'll be shocked just how shit our supposed uber-rich, first-world, brownoid-magnet of a country is in comparison.
That's not to mention how cheap everything is, how nice and fresh the food is, how clear the air and roads are...

This was my trip some years ago to Budapest, capital city of the evil Viktor Orban. Clean streets, no bums on the street from what I remember, shit just ran smooth. Got some good food (not just Hungarian, got some good Italian and very authentic Chinese there as well). Idk about living there but was very impressed with it compared to places like London or Paris, dirty shitholes.

Hungary. totally recommended the place. Loved it there.

Also they're fabulously racist, hate non whites and despise the homos and troons.

Concur, was very nice for a visit.