Culture I resign from the Freedom from Religion Foundation - It's because of trannies. It's always because of trannies

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This is the result of a dispute I’ve explained before (see here). Because the FFRF has caved into to gender extremism, an area having nothing to do with its mission, and because, when they let me post an article on their website about this, they changed their mind and simply removed my post, I have decided I can no longer remain a member of their board of honorary directors. So be it. Everything is explained in this email I sent FFRF co-Presidents Annie Laurie Gaylor and Dan Barker about an hour ago, to wit:

Dear Annie Laurie and Dan,

As you probably expected, I am going resign my position on the honorary board of the FFRF. I do this with great sadness, for you know that I have been a big supporter of your organization for years, and was honored to receive not only your Emperor Has No Clothes Award, but also that position on your honorary board.

But because you took down my article that critiqued Kat Grant’s piece, which amounts to quashing discussion of a perfectly discuss-able issue, and in fact had previously agreed that I could publish that piece—not a small amount of work—and then put it up after a bit of editing, well, that is a censorious behavior I cannot abide. I was simply promoting a biological rather than a psychological definition of sex, and I do not understand why you would consider that “distressing” and also an attempt to hurt LGBTQIA+ people, which I would never do.

As I said, I think these folks should have moral and legal rights identical to those of other groups, except in the rare cases in which LGBTQIA+ rights conflict with the rights of other groups, in which case some kind of adjudication is necessary. But your announcement about the “mistake” of publishing my piece also implies that what I wrote was transphobic.

Further, when I emailed Annie Laurie asking why my piece had disappeared (before the “official announcement” of revocation was issued), I didn’t even get the civility of a response. Is that the way you treat a member of the honorary board?

I always wanted to be on the board so I could help steer the FFRF: I didn’t think of it as a job without any remit. The only actions I’ve taken have been to write to both of you—sometimes in conjunction with Steve, Dan (Dennett), or Richard—warning of the dangers of mission creep, of violating your stated goals to adhere to “progressive” political or ideological positions. Mission creep was surely instantiated in your decision to cancel my piece when its discussion of biology and its relationship to sex in humans violated “progressive” gender ideology. This was in fact the third time that I and others have tried to warn the FFRF about the dangers of expanding its mission into political territory. But it is now clear that this is exactly what you intend to do. Our efforts have been fruitless, and if there are bad consequences I don’t want to be connected with them.

I will add one more thing. The gender ideology which caused you to take down my article is itself quasi-religious, having many aspects of religions and cults, including dogma, blasphemy, belief in what is palpably untrue (“a woman is whoever she says she is”), apostasy, and a tendency to ignore science when it contradicts a preferred ideology.

I will continue to struggle for the separation of church and state, and wish you well in that endeavor, which I know you will continue. But I cannot be part of an organization whose mission creep has led it to actually remove my words from the internet—words that I cannot see as harmful to any rational person. I am not out to hurt LGBTQIA+ people, and I hope you know that. But you have implied otherwise, and that is both shameful for you and hurtful for me.

Cordially
Jerry

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Another one leaves the fold: Steve Pinker resigns from the Freedom from Religion Foundation


Like me, Steve Pinker has resigned from the Honorary Board of the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF). His resignation was sent yesterday. Steve is a bigger macher than I. both intellectually and, in this case, because he was Honorary President of that Board. I put below his two emails, reproduced with permission.

The first one was sent yesterday to the co-Presidents of the FFRF as well as the editor of Freethought Today!, which originally published my piece and then removed it.

From: Pinker, Steven
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2024 11:49 AM
Subject: resignation

Dear Annie Laurie and Dan,

With sadness, I resign from my positions as Honorary President and member of the Honorary Board of the Freedom from Religion Foundation. The reason is obvious: your decision, announced yesterday, to censor an article by fellow Board member Jerry Coyne, and to slander him as an opponent of LGBTQIA+ rights.

My letter to you last November (reproduced below) explains why I think these are grave errors. With this action, the Foundation is no longer a defender of freedom from religion but the imposer of a new religion, complete with dogma, blasphemy, and heretics. It has turned its back on reason: if your readers “wrongfully perceive” the opposite of a clear statement that you support the expression of contesting opinions, the appropriate response is to stand by your statement, not ratify their error. It has turned the names Freethought Today and Freethought Now into sad jokes, inviting ridicule from its worse foes. And it has shown contempt for the reasoned advice of its own board members.

There are not the values of not the organization I have supported for twenty years, and I can no longer be associated with it.

Sincerely,
Steve

*************

As Steve notes above, this second letter was sent over a month ago to the same people, with copies to me and Richard Dawkins, as all of us were discussing the issue of “mission creep” with the FFRF.

From: Pinker, Steven
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: Comment for FFRF

Thanks, Annie Laurie. But I think it’s important to distinguish two things:

1. The right to bodily autonomy, an ethical issue.

2. The nature of sex in the living world, a scientific issue.

Some trans activists believe that the only way to ensure the first is to rewrite the second, imposing what we regard as fallacious and tendentious claims in defiance of our best scientific understanding. This is unfortunate for two reasons: it’s a conceptual error, confusing the moral and the empirical, and it’s counterproductive to force people to choose between trans rights and scientific reality. Those who favor scientific reality will be alienated from the cause of safeguarding trans rights.

I see FFRF as in the vanguard of separating key moral and political commitments from honest scientific inquiry (after all, a major impetus for enshrining religious doctrine such as creationism is that it is necessary for the preservation of moral values). Many people have noted that the radical factions of the trans movement have taken on some of the worst features of religion, such as the imposition of dogma and the excommunication and vilification of heretics. FFRF can be firmly on the side of trans rights without advancing tendentious (and almost certainly false) biological claims. Of course, it’s fine for views that we regard as tendentious to be expressed in FFRF forums, as long as respectful disagreements are allowed to be expressed as well.

Best,
Steve

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A third one leaves the fold: Richard Dawkins resigns from the Freedom from Religion Foundation

Well, that makes three of us. Steve Pinker, I, and now Richard Dawkins, have all decided independently to resign from the Honorary Board of the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF). The organization’s ideological capture, as instantiated in throwing in their lot with extreme gender activism and censoring any objection to their views—as well as in the increasing tendency of the FFRF to add Critical Social Justice to their mission alongside their original and admirable goal of keeping church and state separate, has motivated us in different degrees to part ways with the group. I emphasize again that the FFRF did and still does engage in important work on keeping religion from creeping into governmental activity.

Richard explains his decision in the email below, sent not long ago to the heads of the FFRF. I, for one, hope that these resignations might make the FFRF rethink its direction.

I reproduce Richard’s very civil resignation with his permission:

Dear Annie Laurie and Dan

It is with real sadness, because of my personal regard for you both, that I feel obliged to resign from the Advisory Board of FFRF. Publishing the silly and unscientific “What is a Woman” article by Kat Grant was a minor error of judgment, redeemed by the decision to publish a rebuttal by a distinguished scientist from the relevant field of Biology, Jerry Coyne. But alas, the sequel was an act of unseemly panic when you caved in to hysterical squeals from predictable quarters and retrospectively censored that excellent rebuttal. Moreover, to summarily take it down without even informing the author of your intention was an act of lamentable discourtesy to a member of your own Advisory Board. A Board which I now leave with regret.

Although I formally resign, I would like to remain on friendly terms with you, and I look forward to cooperating in the future. And to delightful musical evenings if the opportunity arises.

Yours sincerely
Richard

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Trannys at this point are just going to form something like Scientology, except with way more sex crimes - somehow.

It does warm my heart that the last bastions of troons (tech/aethism/reddit) are slowly corroding as these dipshits keep being so obnoxious in RL that everyone to the most boring normie is starting to realize these insane retards need to be fag dragged for the good of humanity.
Are you aware of "Martine" Rothblatt's tranny religion, Terasem? It's similar to Thelema, except one is glorified hedonism created by a fat sex pervert, and the other one has wizards and shit.
 
That's what science is all about, questioning.
Gotta disagree here. It's a nice thought to think "science is all about questioning" but in reality, most of science is just about repeating what we know works. Not only that, but the majority of scientific findings are either unable to be reproduced or are unable to be replicated entirely, with reasons being funding, access to resources, or just because they're made up bullshit.

Most of science is unironically people just pointing at a study or set of findings that's just entirely bullshit.
 
Disturbing.

Read this article, and reconsider your assumptions. That's what science is all about, questioning.
people say science isn't dogmatic, but dogmatic adherence to science is a big part of what was pushed during the COVID vaccine issue and with these troons. "you need to believe the science, chud."

whether you agree with them or not, they're appealing to the dogmatic belief in science that the majority of atheists online (redditor types, not the people in this thread, generally speaking) will adhere to and kowtow to when threatened with being bludgeoned by the very terrifying concept to them that they will be labeled as a disbeliever of factual statements. that they disagree with what the science proves. you can even see shunning behavior when this isn't followed, very similar to a lot of religions.

the semantic argument of if atheism is a religious belief because someone 'doesn't believe in God' is retarded, because it's obvious that it's not about does God exist. in this moment, it's a question about how the 'religion' or 'non-religious organization of thought' are being used. trannies weaponized going against scientific dogma that they themselves set, and you can be excommunicated from spaces involving them if you disagree with 'the science' as it's written, or interpreted, by trannies. the parallels to religion are really quite eerie.
 
Honestly I'd never even considered it framed that way until seeing it in writing, and it really explains why I've always found the concept so gross.
Ideology of gender is just ideology; the plain science of it is fairly black and white when it comes to male/female.

The invasion into the sciences regarding this issue it an infinitely small piece of the sciences; and is oversized for its contribution given the reaction it receives.

None of the people I know embedded in any science professional or budding hobbyists have any divergence on their definitions. Trannies aren’t women.

I think their resignations sends a good message but we also have to keep in mind they didn’t resign from the sciences; just an organization that has fucked itself by roaming into a debate when its task was to ask governments to not blur the lines and then did so itself. The organization doesn’t represent science - just an idea governance and religion should be separate.

It is ridiculous that an organization willing to refute the requirement of religion in politics is terrified when a member dares to define a woman.

It’s quite amusing to watch people and organizations fuck themselves with stupidity.
 
people say science isn't dogmatic, but dogmatic adherence to science is a big part of what was pushed during the COVID vaccine issue and with these troons. "you need to believe the science, chud."

whether you agree with them or not, they're appealing to the dogmatic belief in science that the majority of atheists online (redditor types, not the people in this thread, generally speaking) will adhere to and kowtow to when threatened with being bludgeoned by the very terrifying concept to them that they will be labeled as a disbeliever of factual statements. that they disagree with what the science proves. you can even see shunning behavior when this isn't followed, very similar to a lot of religions.

the semantic argument of if atheism is a religious belief because someone 'doesn't believe in God' is retarded, because it's obvious that it's not about does God exist. in this moment, it's a question about how the 'religion' or 'non-religious organization of thought' are being used. trannies weaponized going against scientific dogma that they themselves set, and you can be excommunicated from spaces involving them if you disagree with 'the science' as it's written, or interpreted, by trannies. the parallels to religion are really quite eerie.
Science without the use of the scientific method is just dogma, sums it up pretty well I think. Ask any of the "I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE" people to list out the steps of the scientific method and I guarantee they wouldn't be able to answer it with out looking it up. And I guarantee they're a trannydick sucking redditor.
 
Trannies brought me to Jesus too. I didn’t grow up religious at all, but the last ten years or so I’ve had this increasing feeling that evil is not simply an action but a real thing in and of itself. The push for mutilating children in the name of this ideology is evil. Quite a few other things about the state of the world are evil too. I feel like something hideous and dark has crawled into the world and people are worshipping it and feeding it. But if evil is a thing, then the opposite is too, and if there are demons, there are angels. Multiple years of science have also given me the feeling that actually, the framework we have cannot explain everything. Which again leads me to God.

the Foundation is no longer a defender of freedom from religion but the imposer of a new religion, complete with dogma, blasphemy, and heretics.
You’re almost there, almost. Just take the next step, and everything will make a lot more sense.
As for Dawkins, he’s a smart guy, and I hope he’s starting to see that you cannot have the fruit without the tree. Our society is a Christian one, and religion is hard baked into us across societies. Which version of it you believe is a function mainly of where you grew up, but the idea of a divine, of something bigger than us, well that’s not an idea I think we can lose without losing something that makes us human.
 
someone should really start tallying all of the communities that got ruined turned into valid heckin safespaces for valid transfolk by unchecked troon incursions. I swear this isn't the first time something like this happened

Open source software
Lesbian apps and forums
Atheist organizations
Roller derby/women’s sporting orgs in general
Video game industry
Esports and streaming
Anime and other fandoms

Oh man I could go on forever. The implosions are endless and ofc the same trannies move on to the next community once the carcass of the previous one has been picked clean of drama.

For example, I was recently in an online support group for a female specific health issue that literally cannot happen to troons. They tried to join and were thankfully BTFO’d, but the drama their handmaidens (and pooner brethren) caused was immense.
 
Doesn't matter.

Trannies drive out founding/important members of an organization which they are flipping to be All About Trans, and they will smugly pat themselves on the back for winning a Victory For Trans Rights.

Happens all the time now. It's a cultural contagion.
The latest episode of Gender: A Wider Lens is about the troon takeover at La Leche League.

Yes, the organization founded to promote breastfeeding.


 
“I can’t believe the scorpion I let on my back has stung me! Don’t they know this just hurts us both in the end? It’s almost like it’s their nature to be this way and we should have rejected any association with them…”

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An all time classic.
 
Which version of it you believe is a function mainly of where you grew up, but the idea of a divine, of something bigger than us, well that’s not an idea I think we can lose without losing something that makes us human.
look at groups whose primary religions don't have that, and then you'll quickly start noticing a pattern about the behavior of those societies, too.
 
someone should really start tallying all of the communities that got ruined turned into valid heckin safespaces for valid transfolk by unchecked troon incursions. I swear this isn't the first time something like this happened
It happens with everything. They ask to be included with this "poor me" pitch about inclusivity and you know, most people are pretty open to that. Then they guilt themselves into positions of power and then the real shit starts happening. The banning, the removing, essentially it becomes less of a place about gaming, coding, website development, linux development, atheism, fictional writing, television shows, casting agencies, comic books, tabletop games, athleticism, livestreaming platforms, literally fucking knitting groups on facebook, Occupy Wall Street, the entirety of academia.....and more about them. It's a weird narcissistic pursuit, they destroy everything they touch. They're cultural colonizers and they are really good at using your natural disposition of kindness against you.

The best way to ward off trannies is to just not be hospitable to their shit and you should surround yourself with people who are like that, too.
 
Back in the day transhumanism was stuff like becoming ai computer ghost or getting cool robot body shit. Still really fucking improbable if not entirely impossible but a lot cooler than "oh let's chop off your organs and pump you full of drugs woah so cool and cyberpunk uwu" Not understanding that the chopping off organs shit is barbaric and inhumane.
Troons really are like shittier versions of the OG cybermen lmao.
I was talking about this the other day with a friend.
When transhumanism becomes a really big thing, how much do you want to bet that instead of bio-hacking, cool technology, cyborgs, etc, instead it will be shoved in our faces everyday and will end up being super gay?

Trannies, please dont ruin this one thing for me. I want cyborgs to be cool, not sissified men who take it up the butt.
 
It was fun bucking the evangelical movements that controlled so much of this country back in the 90s and early 00s but ffs the militant atheists took the cringe too far. I don't look forward to a return to vaguely authoritarian religious shit but if it will bring back sanity by destroying the troon menace, so be it. My enemies enemy is my friend and all that.
The heart of atheism, more than any conversation about if god exists, is the idea that humans can and should live without doctrine. Self actualizing themselves with all the free time they have not working like in an episode of star trek. They found out this was widely, and fundamentally wrong. People destroy themselves without a moral code. Even with the free time and free will the have, they spend time uselessly or degenerate with drugs and entertainment. And, at a core, human beings desire a doctrine to follow to give their lives meaning. So when they tried to destroy christianity, they just cleaned the table for a different fish.
 
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