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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
(I work in diagnosis)
Oh, you poor batard. lmao. It’s hell isn’t it.
They have no reading skill and do not communicate at all
Heaven forbid the person they are looking after is actually complicated and fucked up. They struggle to understand basic shit.

Why are there so many problems social workers? Gee, have you stopped trying to offload them on people that make the problems worse?

And then you get the wonderful fact that the staff get changed out every few months when their ‘probation and training period’ is over so they don’t have to be paid.

Leading to a revolving door of people that can’t communicate dealing with vulnerable, scared and at risk people that are getting progressively more worried each time.

I WONDER WHY THERE ATE PROBLEMS?!
 
Why are there so many problems social workers? Gee, have you stopped trying to offload them on people that make the problems worse?
Offt, now social work, that’s a job that REALLY fucks people up.

It warps a lot of peoples brains by somehow making them incredible naive to the scum bags they’re dealing with as some sort of regular human they can fix.

For a profession staffed entirely by Guardian readers it amazes me how none of them can see each other’s white saviour complexes.

The only ones who don’t go insane tend to be women from tough backgrounds who know how the world works and not everyone can be saved.

You couldn’t pay me enough to either do that job or have any professional involvement with it.
 
It warps a lot of peoples brains by somehow making them incredible naive to the scum bags they’re dealing with as some sort of regular human they can fix.
Kicker is a lot of them are people you can fix. But you usually have to fight the people that say ‘you can’t do this thing’ that outrank you or my favourite ‘doctor/social worker say they need doctor/social worker to write down the problem everyone can see before they can do anything and the doctor/social worker can’t do that because no one has identified it on paper yet’

Fuck that bullshit loop of bs.

Most social workers are not built to have to fight not only their profession but sometimes the people they are trying to help in order to get people help.

They go in thinking they can help and it will be easy only to come out screaming about red tape and the people that sign off on shit being cunts.
 
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Most social workers are not built to have to fight not only their profession but sometimes the people they are trying to help in order to get people help.
One I knew was moaning about her client and her daughter who had moved in with the client’s father, despite the fact that the father had abused his daughter growing up.

I was flabbergasted and said, “you do know that the old man will be fucking that kid, don’t you?” She just gave me a weird dead eyed look and changed the subject.

There’s a mantra of keeping families together. This is kinda usually the best option given how terrible the care system is but moving a child into the house of a paedophile is one of those instances when it’s better to remove them.

She’d get the shit kicked out of her a lot and it was never reported to the police by her or her employers as god forbid the actions of junkies should have consequences.

Not seen her for years but she did have the sense to get out in the end.
 
I was flabbergasted and said, “you do know that the old man will be fucking that kid, don’t you?” She just gave me a weird dead eyed look and changed the subject.
Of course she knows. But to keep turning the fuck up at work every day, she either needs to grown some kind of dissociative shell where she can engage on a dispassionate, risk-assessment level with that knowledge, or she needs to quit her job. Because she cannot protect that baby. Because people with normal empathy - and these are the people who tend to become social workers - cannot do what is expected of them, which is to provide a 'rights respecting professional service' to the most vulnerable kids in society, and at the same time not to take a fucking baseball bat on their visits and fucking murder some of their 'clients', who are the worst fucking people in society. Your brain cannot do it. I have ex SW friends and they are absolutely broken by the things they have not only seen, but the things they were directly ordered by superiors and police to not investigate and to not provide services for. They had to go to counselling, they have the night terrors and all that shit. They wanted to help, they knew how to help, and the decision of senior SW and police was "fuck it they are only dole scum anyway theres no point". When people ask how the fuck did Rotherham et al go on for years, this is fucking how. It wasn't all about 'raycismss'. It was about middle class white people viewing the suffering of the dole scum, who are rude and violent and noncompliant and a fucking ball ache to deal with, as not worth the fucking effort. If the Rotherham lassies had gone to grammar school and been assaulted in minicabs on the way back from hockey practice this shit would have been over INSTANTLY, pakis or no pakis. The pakis targeted lassies in care for the excellent reason than even pakis can tell lower middle class white people don't care about neds and bams and chavs, particularly if they are fat and poor and have been sexually active since they were ten. They victimised kids who no one cares about or bothers to protect, and now there's all this hand flapping about why they weren't protected. Those same fucking kids are not being protected today, tonight, right now. I don't know who is preying on them right now, probably pakis, certainly their families who are always the ones that start it, undoubtedly also white guys because there aren't enough pakis to keep our vigorous child sexual abuse industry in business alone. But they are being preyed on for the same fucking ride in a taxi or bag of chips they were preyed upon in Rotherham, and people still don't fucking care because Kerryann-Rae is a fucking illiterate bam with a foul mouth and a criminal record and a pain in the arse, and she's still a fucking twelve year old child under all that and it is not fucking right friends, it is not fucking right.
 
Hip hip cheerio and whatever the fuck you brits tell each other.

I'm seeing an uptick of mentions about the whole "police did not want to be called racist so left thousands to be raped by 'Asians'", I thought that was a pretty much screamed secret for at least a decade now. Would any of you fine gentlemen ming putting me up to speed on why this is resurfacing now?
 
Hip hip cheerio and whatever the fuck you brits tell each other.

I'm seeing an uptick of mentions about the whole "police did not want to be called racist so left thousands to be raped by 'Asians'", I thought that was a pretty much screamed secret for at least a decade now. Would any of you fine gentlemen ming putting me up to speed on why this is resurfacing now?

It bubbles up every so often, but I think this is the first time since Musk bought X that the details of what was done (particularly from the sentencing remarks; one example https://xcancel.com/maxtempers/status/1873835392627302765) to the girls have been posted. Now that the algo is not tilted (as badly) against them, the Xeets gain more traction than they would have in the past and they have ended up being seen by much wider circles of people than before, in particular Americans who had virtually no idea of the scale of what happened, nor the racial\ethnic component to it, nor the cover-up, and are reacting as you would expect.

EDIT: I should also point out there are plenty of British people who were also not aware of the scale of the rape gangs either. The silo has really done a number on the average normie on social media.
 
Didn't you just vote Starmer in though?
No ee voted the tories out
It all boils down to a single question: cui bono?

Who benefits?


Think about this question deeply.
Cui bono indeed. Is it Greg dyke (ex bbc head) who now owns a lot of these hotels?
You had 1400 kids raped over 30-40 years.
In Rotherham alone. These gangs are everywhere
had an inkling that the soccer hooligan thing was outdated
A single ticket for a premiership match will cost upwards of 60 quid now. It’s a few grand for a season ticket. That has changed the demographics a lot. There’s no real hooliganism any more.
 
I have had my memory jogged as to exactly what the trigger was for the posting of court transcripts etc. - around Christmas, a journalist called Fraser Nelson who prevously edited the Spectator magazine wrote a fantastically tin-earred column in the Daily Telegraph titled 'Britain’s integration miracle is a beacon of hope amid instability', which you can read here; https://archive.ph/jtAtL

Naturally, this prompted a lot of people to dig out examples that prove his scribblings to be complete bollocks. The rape gangs are the best example of the failure of integration, so they were the most posted. And the algorithm did the rest.

Nelson is certainly a wet centrist that occasionally LARPs as a conservative, but he isn't completely stupid either. So I am not sure whether the article backfired or if this was exactly the reaction he was hoping to inspire.
 
I have found that there is no faster way to hate the system than working in it and having a family member rely on it at the same time.

You get to see both the internals and the externals of it at the same time. Great fun.

Engineering is a much better use of your time. For your own sake. Which is a shame. We could do with more people like you in the NHS.
Im not an actual engineer, but all businesses have the admin side of thing. However I've found the whole culture and mindset completely different to the NHS. Its, so the maximum work as well as possible with the minimum effort. Work harder not smarter. Is there a better way to do shit someone has come up with we haven't thought of? Great, let's look at that.

It is fundamentally different to the NHS which is lazy, sloppy, useless, and totally y averse to change. Until the NHS accepts all of its huge flaws and that it needs to change it is fucked.
 
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When people ask how the fuck did Rotherham et al go on for years, this is fucking how. It wasn't all about 'raycismss'. It was about middle class white people viewing the suffering of the dole scum, who are rude and violent and noncompliant and a fucking ball ache to deal with, as not worth the fucking effort. If the Rotherham lassies had gone to grammar school and been assaulted in minicabs on the way back from hockey practice this shit would have been over INSTANTLY, pakis or no pakis.
Mostly true, but I think this is overstated as well. Katherine Hann goes to bat all the time, and is suing the state because she, a middle class girl with very well off parents, and her friends all got raped and ignored because of racial reasons. Though, the reason that people actually listen to her is probably because she is a fairly well spoken, bluntly middle class woman with connections.

It absolutely was a bunch of middle - and working, let's spread the blame here where it deserves to be - class social workers that spearheaded brushing this shit under the rug. I've dealt with underprivileged children in a teaching environment; and the care for them exists until they become a ball ache to deal with, and then they're just 'handled' where you're supposed to effectively placate them but you won't be able to actually assist them. It was one of the many reasons I will never go back into teaching children.

EDITl: A good example I always remember was a girl, age 16; she struggled a bit, was overly confrontational and blunt with the paki boys, but pleasant enough to be around. She was constantly making statements that are blatant instances of cause for concern. She would mention her mother by name only, never that she was her mom, she would make references to being out drunk all night every night, she would constantly be on her phone and have to leave for the toilets every fifteen minutes to make sure she was texting someone. These by themselves aren't great; but as a collection indicate a child that is isolated from her parents, abusing alcohol, in some form of controlling relationship, and is used to being shouted at with how casually she handled it. You raise that and you just get a 'Yeah, she's a teenager' rolled eyes from the woman supposed to be being her advocate.
 
I have had my memory jogged as to exactly what the trigger was for the posting of court transcripts etc. - around Christmas, a journalist called Fraser Nelson who prevously edited the Spectator magazine wrote a fantastically tin-earred column in the Daily Telegraph titled 'Britain’s integration miracle is a beacon of hope amid instability', which you can read here; https://archive.ph/jtAtL

Naturally, this prompted a lot of people to dig out examples that prove his scribblings to be complete bollocks. The rape gangs are the best example of the failure of integration, so they were the most posted. And the algorithm did the rest.

Nelson is certainly a wet centrist that occasionally LARPs as a conservative, but he isn't completely stupid either. So I am not sure whether the article backfired or if this was exactly the reaction he was hoping to inspire.
I got MATI reading that article when it was published. His wife is Swedish, so presumably he thinks that all immigrants to Britain are like the Swedes.

It all boils down to a single question: cui bono?

Who benefits?


Think about this question deeply.
I thought about it, I'm none the wiser. Who does benefit?
(If this is a prelude to an antisemitic conspiracy theory or other bollocks I'm again going to be MATI.)
 
Hip hip cheerio and whatever the fuck you brits tell each other.

I'm seeing an uptick of mentions about the whole "police did not want to be called racist so left thousands to be raped by 'Asians'", I thought that was a pretty much screamed secret for at least a decade now. Would any of you fine gentlemen ming putting me up to speed on why this is resurfacing now?
There’s a perfect storm of reasons.

The government are saying the council should hold an enquiry and the council are saying the government should. They’re both wanting the other to dirty their hands. Really this should be the government as it wasn’t just located in Rotherham and it was massive systemic failing across a bunch of services.

Sir Kier Starmer KC, our Prime Minister, is deeply unpopular, even with the establishment, who is is one of, as he’s just bumbling around like a gayer version of Hugh Grant. It also doesn’t help he taxed the fuck out of their business.

We have the likes of Jess Philips, Minister for Safe Guarding, or some other non-job title, who is an angry northern feminist who Sargon wouldn’t even rape, who has been pretty mealy mouthed out it and is trying to have nothing to do with it. Same with another Angela Reiner, who LARPs working class, left school with more kids than qualifications (that’s not a joke, it’s true), and is another feminist oddly silent about the industrial scale rape of young girls.

The general public isn’t happy either. Turn out was shockingly low the Labour only won because Tories stayed at home or voted Reform. Labour have a base of voters who will turn out and vote for them no matter what. They tend to be working class boomers, who say they are socialists but are further to the right on most issues that even the most bonkers Tory, or gays in Brighton or London who pretend to care about Palestinians so they can have fun protesting. Neither of these groups are happy.

Plus, immigration is a MASSIVE issue now no one is allowed to talk about. I’ve just went the shops in my mostly White City and there’s a fuck ton of Africans milling about who weren’t there six months ago.

Also we have the Muslims. These tend to vote as a block for Labour, and don’t mind committing voter fraud to help them win. I pretty much think this is the real reason they were allowed to get away with it for so long. The North was the main stronghold for Labour and they were happy to let hundreds of thousands of children get raped to hold onto that power. The problem for Labour is their Muslim pals are setting up their own independent candidates or backing small parties so they can commit tons of corruption and take power free Palestine or something. This could be the thing that finally gets Labour to throw them under the bus.

Then we have the recent riots. That anger hasn’t gone away. We all saw how quickly the State lost control. The police were embarrassingly ineffectual and spent all their time defending mosques and let cities burn. The enquiry would make some incredibly horrific things so public even corporate media couldn’t memory hole it and it would give very angry people a list of names of powerful people who was responsible for.

There was also very good evidence that the police were collaborating with Muslim gangs to shut down and attack protests.

On top of the above there’s the just general inept nature of the government, everyone’s standard of living is down, and there seems to be no answer for it except raise taxes, import foreigners, and depress wages.

We’re sitting on an absolute tinder keg and I think next time it goes off it will be really ugly.

TL;DR shit’s fucked, get popcorn. 🍿

EDIT: I also forgot the PM was head of the crown prosecution service at the time and the failure to prosecute anyone would pretty much be on his doorstep
 
Sainsbury's are selling 5 force-grown strawberries (the tasteless ones that are just blocks of cold water) for £2.50 and 1kg of tomatoes is £8 :story:
Also couldn't find any carrots near me, and the potatoes all have at least one nasty mushy one in them. I hate to cry 'food problems' but it seems like all our food has not only gotten pricier, but also shitter very fast.
 
I know I'm lucky but binning off supermarkets where I can has helped a lot. I completely get that's not an option for so many people though. I buy my household stuff like cleaning products from ocado, meat from a local butchers and veg and dairy and fish from a local greengrocers. The quality of stuff is excellent and it saddens me this is not an option for too many people.

Getting people reliant on big corporations for poor quality, expensive slop is apparently all part of the plan, I guess. As it is my food budget now runs at about £45 a week and that gets me one big meal with leftovers for 3-5 days and 2-3 "fancy" meals, plus breakfast and meals for work.

The destruction of the high street was absolutely planned and has had such a huge impact on the health, both physical and financial, of people.
 
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