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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Sainsbury's are selling 5 force-grown strawberries (the tasteless ones that are just blocks of cold water) for £2.50 and 1kg of tomatoes is £8 :story:
I would do something illegal if tomatoes costed that much. How do you put up with it?
Also couldn't find any carrots near me, and the potatoes all have at least one nasty mushy one in them. I hate to cry 'food problems' but it seems like all our food has not only gotten pricier, but also shitter very fast.
I'm curious: where do your stores source most produce?
 
I'm curious: where do your stores source most produce?
I have a lidl around the corner, if that fails then Aldi. I just moved to the area unfortunately, from a small town. There I'd normally get it from a greengrocer, or a farmer if it's in season. Sadly I've moved closer to Mordor (London), so I'm still on the hunt for a good grocer, or farm shop that isn't some speciality rip off bullshit merchant.
 
I have a lidl around the corner, if that fails then Aldi. I just moved to the area unfortunately, from a small town. There I'd normally get it from a greengrocer, or a farmer if it's in season. Sadly I've moved closer to Mordor (London), so I'm still on the hunt for a good grocer, or farm shop that isn't some speciality rip off bullshit merchant.
If you're on the Kent side, go to Lullingstone. Couple big farms along the road to Sevenoaks that do good produce reasonably.
 
He directly says he is fine with the brits being replaced as long as they act "british"
its a costume to him.

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A guy like this will never EVER be the right call if you want Britain to still be British in 50 years.
People like this are more dangerous than the shitlib.
Yeah that is my problem with him as well and I agree it's retarded for him to say this
But he was never in favour of mass immigration and had nothing to do with Boris flooding the country with third worlders after brexit
I don't think Farage will be around Reform long tbh, reform are just using him to get the party off the ground into the mainstream and then hopefully get a more right wing leader after he fucks off. Maybe that is wishful thinking but there's literally no real alternatives at the moment.
 
I have a lidl around the corner, if that fails then Aldi. I just moved to the area unfortunately, from a small town. There I'd normally get it from a greengrocer, or a farmer if it's in season. Sadly I've moved closer to Mordor (London), so I'm still on the hunt for a good grocer, or farm shop that isn't some speciality rip off bullshit merchant.
Where do they actually get the produce, though? For example, the US gets a ton of tomatoes and such from Mexico. Obviously, no one in the UK gets domestic strawberries or tomatoes this time of year.
 
Where do they actually get the produce, though? For example, the US gets a ton of tomatoes and such from Mexico. Obviously, no one in the UK gets domestic strawberries or tomatoes this time of year.
Oh, most likely imported from Argentina, or other South American countries. A lot of places say they bring everything in from the UK, but that generally means something like "When we say everything we mean that 1/2 of 1/4 of all poultry comes from packaging plant in the UK with sources beyond that vary."
 
Farage himself admitted that he gatekept out the "far right" in Britain for decades, the far right just being anyone right of being a neo conservative Thatcherite. Farage is a very large part on why the English have never had an actual right wing, anti immigration party for decades as Farage has admitted to barring them from entering politics. If we ever want to solve the issues we see ourselves in then Farage needs to go and then the Overton window can finally shift.

Farage blocking Tommy Robinson, his comments on needing to win over the Muslims vote and that they wouldn't do mass deportations are not a new thing from Farage, he has a long history of being a Thatcherite cuckold that helped get us to this position in the first place.
 
Farage blocking Tommy Robinson, his comments on needing to win over the Muslims vote and that they wouldn't do mass deportations are not a new thing from Farage, he has a long history of being a Thatcherite cuckold that helped get us to this position in the first place.
I've been on to him since he coup'd UKIP and turned it from a party of aligned interests to a Nigel Farage publicity vehicle. Yes, he got himself elected to the Europarl so he could make his speeches, claim expenses, and get himself a guaranteed pension, but he did fuck all to actually advance the cause of independence during his tenure as leader. No networking with like-minds, no collaboration with other independence groups.Anyone who insisted on disagreement with him was cast out as "far right", regardless of their position on anything.

Before anyone asks, I wasn't a member. I knew people who were. The party, which had been showing steady growth for its entire life, collapsed and was almost completely rebuilt when Farage took over and ejected everyone who didn't pass muster. It did grow again, but it was crippled by the fact that every standing MPcandidate had to be utterly loyal to Nigel. If they said anything even slightly controversial then they were thrown out in order to preserve his public image.

Reform has this exact same issue, right down to his lax attendance in parliament, throwing out "racists", and his fat pension. And yes, I am salty about the pension thing. The man earns more for doing literally nothing than most people in this country are paid for any sort of real work. He's the ultimate benefit scrounger. Probably ironic.
 
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Reform has this exact same issue, right down to his lax attendance in parliament, throwing out "racists", and his fat pension. And yes, I am salty about the pension thing. The man earns more for doing literally nothing than most people in this country are paid for any sort of real work. He's the ultimate benefit scrounger.
Kinda forgetting that Reform isn't a political party. It's a plc, and Farage owns 53% of it (gotta top up his pension somehow, right?). Otherwise, I agree completely.
 
I've been on to him since he coup'd UKIP and turned it from a party of aligned interests to a Nigel Farage publicity vehicle. Yes, he got himself elected to the Europarl so he could make his speeches, claim expenses, and get himself a guaranteed pension, but he did fuck all to actually advance the cause of independence during his tenure as leader. No networking with like-minds, no collaboration with other independence groups.Anyone who insisted on disagreement with him was cast out as "far right", regardless of their position on anything.

Before anyone asks, I wasn't a member. I knew people who were. The party, which had been showing steady growth for its entire life, collapsed and was almost completely rebuilt when Farage took over and ejected everyone who didn't pass muster. It did grow again, but it was crippled by the fact that every standing MP had to be utterly loyal to Nigel. If they said anything even slightly controversial then they were thrown out in order to preserve his public image.

Reform has this exact same issue, right down to his lax attendance in parliament, throwing out "racists", and his fat pension. And yes, I am salty about the pension thing. The man earns more for doing literally nothing than most people in this country are paid for any sort of real work. He's the ultimate benefit scrounger. Probably ironic.
What's the most infuriating to a Brit is how he talks about immigration in the US vs how he does in the UK.

The US is allowed to have mass deportations, crack down on the constant international flow of immigrants, punish business for prioritizing foreign labour and not feel the need to capitulate to any groups within the US to try and win an election by only working with the natives (not trying to be some retarded Sub Muslims party). Basically he's all in on the Populism when it comes to the US and Trump. Though when it comes to the UK he's does a 180 and is against all of that with the excuse "oh we couldn't do that here" even though it's what a lot of his base wants.

Populism for the US but not for the UK even though he's never even attempted it here. Farage isn't a member of a party, he is the party and everyone who follows him around is an idiotic sheep.
 
1kg of tomatoes is £8 :story:
Where the fuck is this sainsbury you're buying from? Is it a souf tax thing? Bitch-basic tomatoes near me are about 2.80 a kilo in sainsbury and morrisons. They only get stupidly expensive when you're buying on-the-vine super special fancy varietal cherry tomatoes. I haven't checked asda because their tomatoes are always slimy and weird.

I guess I should expect it here eventually. Maybe I'll finally get around to growing my own this year.
 
Kinda forgetting that Reform isn't a political party. It's a plc, and Farage owns 53% of it (gotta top up his pension somehow, right?). Otherwise, I agree completely.
More accurate to say that it is a political party that is (or, rather, was) structured as a limited company rather than an unincorporated association.

Farage actually upped his ownership to 60% not long before the September meeting where I believe the members voted to become a company limited by guarantee, with no shareholders at all.
 
Where the fuck is this sainsbury you're buying from? Is it a souf tax thing? Bitch-basic tomatoes near me are about 2.80 a kilo in sainsbury and morrisons. They only get stupidly expensive when you're buying on-the-vine super special fancy varietal cherry tomatoes. I haven't checked asda because their tomatoes are always slimy and weird.

I guess I should expect it here eventually. Maybe I'll finally get around to growing my own this year.
I'm up norff. Their on the vine toms were nudging a tenner. They've been upping their prices willy-nilly. Microwave meals have gone from £2.50 for the Sainsbury's own slop, to £3.50. Their special meals sometimes top £6.
For the price and the quality, i am unironically better off shopping at the local M+S.

Let's not start on the price of seafood.
 
Farage himself admitted that he gatekept out the "far right" in Britain for decades, the far right just being anyone right of being a neo conservative Thatcherite. Farage is a very large part on why the English have never had an actual right wing, anti immigration party for decades as Farage has admitted to barring them from entering politics. If we ever want to solve the issues we see ourselves in then Farage needs to go and then the Overton window can finally shift.

Farage blocking Tommy Robinson, his comments on needing to win over the Muslims vote and that they wouldn't do mass deportations are not a new thing from Farage, he has a long history of being a Thatcherite cuckold that helped get us to this position in the first place.
Controlled opposition, it's very clear that Reform are very similar to Conservatives. Conservatives lost their way and our socially just as liberal as Labour. Electing a black woman will lose them a shit ton of votes in certain areas, fucking disaster. Next election if nothing changes they will cancel each other out and Labour would win a majority by a few seats with under 25% of the vote.
 
As someone reading this, you belong to the top tier of professional noticer. You hold more sway from the knowledge you have than you may realise.
You are 100% spot on with this entire post. And I do do this - I think I’m gradually, reasonably, opening the eyes of people around me. I’ll say as well that you have to go slow. You can’t just start with the worst stuff, you have to start with a few ‘tut tut’ level things they can and will immediately see are true, and that do not make them feel bad (vv important to start with) and then ramp it up.
Over Covid for example. You cannot start with an in depth discussion on exactly why the virus is manipulated and the links of Moderna to intelligence. No, I started with ‘oooh look at this… some Labour councillor caught running a fake testing business/some Tory ministers’s neighbour gets a million quid PPE contract.’
This is immediately verifiable. It’s corruption which we all know they do. They say oooh yes that terrible. You say ‘oh there’s so much more, I don’t know where to start… anyway how’s your Brian going with the allotment?’ then you leave it to ferment.
Then the next time you see them, another little drip. Never take the stance that THEY were wrong - people will not accept they were fooled. You need them to think they were WRONGED and that’s a different, more easily accepted position.
You are completely correct that we all should be maki g sure people know about this stuff. There’s a way of dropping it into a conversation casually that doesn’t make them think you’re mental. Always point out that the opinion they furtively disclose is not in fact terrible, it’s just the media wants them to think that and think they’re alone. Always point out the way they use words - that ‘car drives into crowd’ one was something g I was talking to a bunch of people about at Christmas and at new year I had half a dozen ‘bloody hell look at this, it’s just what you were saying!’ Texts.
I have managed to get a couple of dozen people really see what’s going on at least, and I know half them have started on their own circles. Drip, drip, drip.
 
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