It's also telling how thoroughly the tone of this thread has changed since page 883, when the Kyler accusations came forth but prior to the Liana confirmations. Then start looking at the followup to the Liana confirmation on page 893, prior to the MM information expository. Then just pick any random pages between then and now and you will see many things at play.
1) Many of the current alogs were withholding judgment for more information/confirmation at that time, myself included. Many of the alogs who are quite active now were defenders at that time.
2) The thread was overwhelmingly saying "nothingburger" and the alogs were getting massively negatively stickered
3) Over the course of the next 100 pages or so, debate rages.
4) CAPS LOCK MAGIC COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY TURNS THE TIDE AND GETS THE ALOGS TO WORK IN TANDEM
5) Slowly, defenders defect or withdraw, alogs multiply.
6) Several alog accounts have been registered in the first two weeks of 2025 and they've come out swinging
7) The culture of the thread has completely reversed from overwhelmingly fan thread to overwhelmingly alog thread because of overwhelming evidence.

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