Live updates: Brush fire burns in Pacific Palisades as Santa Ana winds blast Southern California - Live video at link

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That's how they are. Someone quoted by the NY Post nailed it:

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The government should be doing something about this, idk what they should do or how to do it but they should.

Not checking up on your elderly/disabled neighbour is normal thinking. At least 3 deaths could've been avoided if people did.

Edit: I was meant to say checking up not " not checking up".
 
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Suggest once all the fires are put out and a proper search conducted we will be lucky if there are fewer than four figures reported dead. Fires moved very fast, far faster than many who might have been evacuated.

Added - burning to death is horrible. You'd better hope you're already dead before the fire gets you. Have visited the burn ward at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio, one of the country's best. Dude I was visiting wasn't that badly burned but can only imagine what they deal with. Also had a family member get into a one-car accident almost forty years ago. Car flipped over and caught on fire. Believe he broke his neck, killing him, before burning up. Very hard to identify body, obviously a closed-casket funeral.
 
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‘Essential’: nearly 800 incarcerated firefighters deployed as LA battles wildfires​

Hundreds of incarcerated firefighters are helping battle the destructive blazes that are rapidly spreading across southern California as a powerful windstorm devastates the region.

The California department of corrections and rehabilitation (CDCR) said on Thursday that it had deployed 783 imprisoned firefighters while Los Angeles county fights multiple out-of-control blazes fueled by extreme winds and dry conditions. The incarcerated crews are embedded with the California department of forestry and fire protection (Cal Fire) and its nearly 2,000 firefighters, who have been stretched thin from several simultaneous emergencies.

The CDCR operates more than 30 “fire camps” across the state where people serving state prison sentences are trained in firefighting and support authorities as they respond to fires, floods and other disasters. The sites, also called conservation camps, are considered minimum-security facilities and house more than 1,800 incarcerated firefighters, officials said this week.

Hundreds of incarcerated firefighters are helping battle the destructive blazes that are rapidly spreading across southern California as a powerful windstorm devastates the region.

The California department of corrections and rehabilitation (CDCR) said on Thursday that it had deployed 783 imprisoned firefighters while Los Angeles county fights multiple out-of-control blazes fueled by extreme winds and dry conditions. The incarcerated crews are embedded with the California department of forestry and fire protection (Cal Fire) and its nearly 2,000 firefighters, who have been stretched thin from several simultaneous emergencies.

The CDCR operates more than 30 “fire camps” across the state where people serving state prison sentences are trained in firefighting and support authorities as they respond to fires, floods and other disasters. The sites, also called conservation camps, are considered minimum-security facilities and house more than 1,800 incarcerated firefighters, officials said this week.

On Wednesday, the CDCR said it had deployed 395 imprisoned firefighters to the frontlines. A day later, that number had doubled, and the department said the crews also have 88 staff members supporting them. Their work has involved “cutting fire lines and removing fuel from behind structures to slow fire spread”, the CDCR said.

California, which is grappling with longer and more destructive fire seasons amid the climate crisis, has long relied on incarcerated people for its response. The CDCR crews have at times accounted for as much as 30% of the wildfire force in the state.

Hundreds of incarcerated firefighters are helping battle the destructive blazes that are rapidly spreading across southern California as a powerful windstorm devastates the region.

The California department of corrections and rehabilitation (CDCR) said on Thursday that it had deployed 783 imprisoned firefighters while Los Angeles county fights multiple out-of-control blazes fueled by extreme winds and dry conditions. The incarcerated crews are embedded with the California department of forestry and fire protection (Cal Fire) and its nearly 2,000 firefighters, who have been stretched thin from several simultaneous emergencies.

The CDCR operates more than 30 “fire camps” across the state where people serving state prison sentences are trained in firefighting and support authorities as they respond to fires, floods and other disasters. The sites, also called conservation camps, are considered minimum-security facilities and house more than 1,800 incarcerated firefighters, officials said this week.

On Wednesday, the CDCR said it had deployed 395 imprisoned firefighters to the frontlines. A day later, that number had doubled, and the department said the crews also have 88 staff members supporting them. Their work has involved “cutting fire lines and removing fuel from behind structures to slow fire spread”, the CDCR said.

California, which is grappling with longer and more destructive fire seasons amid the climate crisis, has long relied on incarcerated people for its response. The CDCR crews have at times accounted for as much as 30% of the wildfire force in the state.

The fire camp wages are meager, but are considered high-paying jobs behind bars, with CDCR firefighters earning between $5.80 and $10.24 a day and an additional $1 per hour when responding to active emergencies. When responding to disasters, they may earn $26.90 over a 24-hour shift, according to the CDCR.

“Wildfires are a constant and formidable challenge for California, and CDCR conservation fire camps remain dedicated to supporting the state’s response,” Jeff Macomber, CDCR secretary, said in a statement on Wednesday. “The work of our incarcerated firefighters and staff is an essential part of this effort, and their commitment to protecting lives and property during these emergencies cannot be overstated.”

The fires this week have stretched from the Pacific Palisades, a picturesque community along the ocean, to Pasadena, east of the city of Los Angeles. At least five people were killed and more than 1,000 structures destroyed.

Participants in the program have said they appreciate higher wages and the opportunity to do meaningful work while serving their sentences, but the jobs can be taxing.

“The fire crews want to go out and support our communities and protect people and property,” said Amika Mota, an advocate who served with the fire camps from 2012 to 2015 while incarcerated, responding to more than 20 fires. “It’s horrific to see what’s unfolding, but I know the firefighters inside have a desire to take part and are walking into these horrible conditions proud to be there.”

Mota, now the executive director of the Sister Warriors Freedom Coalition, a group that supports formerly and currently incarcerated people, said the firefighting wages were helpful, but that people still struggled to get by: “We’re doing this heroic, crucial work, but many people inside cannot support their family, can barely afford to just get hygiene [supplies] for themselves. Nobody is saving money with wages for when you go home. Nobody is able to send money to cover the expenses their children are incurring.”

Participants must have eight years or less on their sentence, and some convictions, including sex offenses and arson, are disqualifying.

Graduates of the program have reported difficulties accessing firefighting jobs once released despite their experience and training.

The CDCR says some can seek professional emergency response certifications and expedited expungement once freed, and that a felony conviction doesn’t bar employment with Cal Fire. One 18-month training program helps participants become qualified to apply for entry-level firefighting jobs.

Mota recalled the grueling nature of the job: “We always had this reputation on the fire ground of being the ones who did the dirtiest work, the hardest work, got there the earliest, stayed there the longest. There was a lot of respect we’d get from other fire crews. But that also takes its toll.”

Still, she added: “The firefighters love to do this frontline work that’s fierce and intense and has the potential to save lives.”

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Not checking up on your elderly/disabled neighbour is normal thinking. At least 3 deaths could've been avoided if people did.
I was thinking this too, while mobility mary died long before this, I imagine she would be VERY dead now, if not by flames, but from issues, power outages limiting her abilities, water contamination, or just someone killing her in the chaos. Or taken out by a dog not on a leash

Like honestly view this, you really think SHE would survive this hell storm?
 
NGL, even though I feel bad for some of the people there, and for a lot of the loss, I kinda hope the San Andreas Fault does a big signature shimmy. Not because I hope people die or anything, per se, but I just kind of want to enjoy watching the chaos.
Really encapsulated how I feel. Except the goats. Get them somewhere safe first. 🐐 mvp
 
Just don't put niggers in office. Lightfoot's replacement is worse and even the section 8 blacks hate him, mostly because the illegals are getting their gibs.


Then there's this convicted felon that somehow managed to weasel her way into office. Bitch can't even string together a competent sentence without going uh, uh, uh.
Texas shipping illegal immigrants to Chicago absolutely broke the back of the Democratic party because of their reliance on the oppression pyramid where illegals rank higher than native born black people.

Imagine being a black Chicagoian and waiting years for affordable housing and some guy who wandered across the boarder 3 weeks ago is getting thousand per month in housing assistance.
 
Boston’s like that too. We will call you a retarded faggot but help get you out of a snow drift. Cool outside, warm inside.
The government should be doing something about this, idk what they should do or how to do it but they should.

Not checking up on your elderly/disabled neighbour is normal thinking. At least 3 deaths could've been avoided if people did.
The rural South, full of the very people these Cali bug chasers despise, are even more helpful and caring than someone on the EC. They will see you are in need, stop and help find your way if you're lost, fix your car, jump start a dead battery or get you out if you're stuck in the mud. I'd rather be around rural Texans/Okies than these LA cunts any day, any time.
 
Added - burning to death is horrible.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought smoke inhalation kills more people than actually burning to death. I know after 3rd degree burns there’s no more pain because the nerve endings have been burned off and destroyed. It’s the second and first degree ones that are so painful IIRC.
 
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Boston’s like that too. We will call you a retarded faggot but help get you out of a snow drift. Cool outside, warm inside.
That’s one of the things that makes me unable to relate with Californians. Across the whole northeast, you don’t act overly familiar with people because it comes off as disrespectful, or like so retardedly naive that you’d be a liability if allowed to form attachments. Dead weight, maybe? Like “my tribe does not want to feed you and you seem too stupid to feed yourself”?
 
A petition was launched demanding the immediate resignation of Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass.

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