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[el bandito loco]

They're real and they're demonic but it's all Hinduism

this isn't really relevant to the thread but I think about shit like this all the time and make myself laugh. what if x religion was true. or what if x crazy schizophrenic weirdo on the street or who's insane Facebook ramblings to no-one in particular were true and that tweaker from your high school who rocks Eminem T-shirts 4 sizes too big outside the 7-11 your dad goes to actually IS Christ back today and it's only a matter of time before the book of revelations or whatever.

I think about it with ancient astronaut shit too. what if Aliens were represented in some creation myths or whatever and actually all along the Hindus or whoever were the closest to what actually happened. Imagining the religious fallout to discovering Greek mythology or something was the truth all along is inherently funny to me.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

They're real and they're demonic but it's all Hinduism

You watch as the metallic craft descends at thousands of Gangsta forces, before silently landing in front of you. A door opens and a tall figure exits the craft. Is it a Nordic? It's dark and you can't tell. Suddenly, you hear a voice telepathetically echoing loudly in your mind: "PLEASE HELP ME SAAR I AM INDIAN I AM FUCKING INDIAN HELP ME SAAR I AM INDIAN I AM FUCKING INDIAN PLEASE HELP HELP ME PLEASE HELP I AM FUCKING INDIAN".

It turning out that we're the galactic equivalent of a third world country would be peak clownworld.

HELP ME XYR I AM HOOMAN I AM FUCKING HOOMAN HELP MEEEEEEEEEE

I think about it with ancient astronaut shit too. what if Aliens were represented in some creation myths or whatever and actually all along the Hindus or whoever were the closest to what actually happened. Imagining the religious fallout to discovering Greek mythology or something was the truth all along is inherently funny to me.

Stargate SG-1 was part of a Soft Disclosure Campaign sponsored by the US Air Force.

Air Force honors SG-1 actor, producer (archive)

 

[el bandito loco]

Stargate SG-1 was part of a Soft Disclosure Campaign sponsored by the US Air Force.

In all honesty I've always hoped it would turn out something like this was the case with Alf or a show like that and we were being prepped for Alien life forms to be essentially useless goofy looking bastards that somehow mastered interstellar travel but were the least impressive species possible

 

[Samhain]

There isn't even a single shred of proof that UFOs or "aliens" are extraterrestrial in origin.

One thing I've noticed from reading about people's abduction experiences is the constant theme that various so-called aliens lie all the time. They're extremely deceptive. Everything from "this won't hurt" right before they put people through very painful medical procedures and generally terrifying experiences, to telling people nukes or climate change will destroy the planet very soon. The funny thing is before global warming was a huge thing in the public consciousness, aliens only fearmongered about nuclear war. After the cold war ended, they moved right on to fearmongering about global warming. Anyway, all I'm saying is that, regardless of what they look like, any claims made by the aliens that they're from other planets should definitely not be taken at face value. Damn near everything they say has some sort of manipulative intent behind it.

I wouldn't call aliens "demons" in the Christian sense, but they definitely aren't good. The "friendly" ones lie, and the hostile ones terrorize and harm people (and some of them even seem to enjoy that).

Collins Elite

Nick Redfern wrote a book about this in 2010 called "Final Events."

 

[Mystery Spy]

Didn't Trump say that whatever he found out, he wish he never did? To me, that kind of alludes to the theory of the aliens being demonic in nature.

Tucker Carlson claims Trump said that his position on both the JFK assasination and UAPs is that "if you knew the truth you wouldn't want the general public to know either" here:

Couldn't find Tucker's source on this, but as the most prominent conservative journalist, its very likely he asked him directly. Can't say if this means "demons" (Altough I find that unlikely but that's for another post). Assuming he is right, It does mean there is a dark secret behind all of this. I doubt it's a Star Trek utopia that's for sure. It would also mean Trump has lied whenever he plays dumb or uncaring about it.

 

[Flan Handler]

As a bigfoot believer -- well, entertainer, in that I entertain the belief because it's fun -- I must protest. Sasquatch isn't an alien. Sasquatch is a relict population North American primate. Referring to this rare creature as an "alien," when in fact it has more of a right to be on this continent than H. sapiens, does not help those of us who want to see it properly identified, described, and protected. And for God's sake, don't give it beer.

Bigfoot just does manual labour in the woods for the greys.

Pictured: no OT for weekend/evening hours.

 

[The Gene Genie]

Tucker Carlson claims Trump said did that his position on both the JFK assasination and UAPs is that "if you knew the truth you wouldn't want the general public to know either" here:

Considering the context of the conversation I think that Trump is more concerned about a general blowback and complete loss of trust in the government as an institution. If it came out that for 80+ years the Government knew about aliens and went to great lengths (assassination, career ruination, driving people to mental breakdowns, etc) to cover it up, then I think you’d want to keep it quiet as well. Trump is, at the end of the day, still part of the elite.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Considering the context of the conversation I think that Trump is more concerned about a general blowback and complete loss of trust in the government as an institution. If it came out that for 80+ years the Government knew about aliens and went to great lengths (assassination, career ruination, driving people to mental breakdowns, etc) to cover it up, then I think you’d want to keep it quiet as well. Trump is, at the end of the day, still part of the elite.

Trump is not about maintaining trust in institutions/government, and can thrive on that chaos. He has a limited amount of time, and full disclosure (assuming there's something to disclose, of course) would shake up domestic affairs, international relations, and give him a reason to immediately arrest a lot of deep state figures and make sweeping changes. Not to mention allowing him to take credit for the big D, and bash former Presidents (and Cheney, etc). It's a perfect scenario.

ETA: Dems say President Musk while President Thiel chuckles in the background.

 

[The Gene Genie]

Trump is not about maintaining trust in institutions/government, and can thrive on that chaos. He has a limited amount of time, and full disclosure (assuming there's something to disclose, of course) would shake up domestic affairs, international relations, and give him a reason to immediately arrest a lot of deep state figures and make sweeping changes. Not to mention allowing him to take credit for the big D, and bash former Presidents (and Cheney, etc). It's a perfect scenario.

I agree and I have said this before. I meant it more as though if that’s what Tucker said, that it’d be better if the public didn’t know or whatever, I don’t think it has to do with the UFOs or ayys themselves but rather what the Government did to cover it up. I think this because Tucker talks deeply about the JFK coverup specifically and then tangents on about Pompeo and how he tried to kill Assange.

I think Trump is, of all the possible people to sit in the Oval Office, the most likely to disclose. It’s not even close.

 

[Mystery Spy]

I think Trump is, of all the possible people to sit in the Oval Office, the most likely to disclose. It’s not even close.

I don't want to get into a political tangent, but I did find Biden's administration refusal to disclose anything about the recent drone "crisis" as a childish game of hot Potato.

Biden's political career is basically over, so he literally had nothing to lose from disclosing it. But instead their strategy is simply doing nothing and have Trump deal with it. Whatever it is, I doubt it's something that makes them look good, otherwise he would've taken credit before Trump could.

 

[fukefacedog]

Long Island "Nightcrawler" Jersey Crew "John and Gerry Tedesco" discuss Scientific Study with Matt Ford​

Link

Return Echo Anomalies​

-Pulse Chain signals are coming back late or refracted "quite a bit", the Brothers call it "Unexpected Field Echos" or "Long Delay Echoes"
-Radio Waves not attenuating like known phenomena
-Delays in Seconds, not nanoseconds
-Objects in Line of Sight
-Anomalous Object that does not match known signatures
-Does not align with typical interference patterns from known radar environmental signatures or other reflective Objects
-May be caused by Gravitational Lensings around the Objects
-Time stagger similar to potential GPS studies (where GPS signals are coming back staggered)
-Most of the time the Objects appear as Orbs, when luminosity drops they appear as Polyhedral
-Radar in 8-millimeter band, short wavelength beams, utilizing Doppler Effect

Looking at the Radar Display​

-Same interference on BOTH RADARS when Objects are present
-Multiple Returns
-Patterns seem to bounce around the Radar screen
-"Gravitational force may be causing the Radar beams to come back late", putting "the beam at a different location on the scope"
-Multiple Echoes
-Object almost seems "Magnified" like it's "under a Lens"
-Object's signal "seems to be coming back sooner" on the display
-Objects "have a tendency to not show up on Radar", might be due to "some form of Gravitational Lensing", may effect "Radars in general"
-Radio Waves "not coming back in a predictable manner"

Hyperspectral Visuals​

-Every Object captured with "Hyperspectral Cameras"
-Every Object if not seen in Visible Spectrum then in IR or near IR, either or
-Ball park out of 30, roughly 18 Objects come back with this Anomaly which is "statistically significant"

Analyzing 6 Cases​

-Scatter Patterns all over PPI, potentially due to "late reflections"

Analyzing a Blue Orb​

-at 40 degrees there are no interference patterns

Independent Horizontal Radar Scan​

-"two independent platforms are doing exactly the same thing", representing the echo with delay, vertical and horizontal
-Used a ship as reference for error correction on return detection
-Interference pattern only apparent when Object is in Line of Sight

Analyzing the "Two Distinct Interference Patterns"​

-Unidentified Field Echoes: Long Delay Echoes
-"Kaleidoscope appearance around some of these Objects"

Shortwave Infrared​

-Reference ship always present
-Conventional Aircraft ruled out
-Objects can only be seen through Hyperspectral, ship can be seen in Visible Spectrum while Objects can not

Scanner Beam Dynamics​

Speculating on UAP Propulsion System and General Characteristics​

Looking at more Interference Patterns​

-Objects almost seem drawn to the Electromagnetic interactions, "migrating" towards the Radar when it pulses

Objects would follow Nightcrawler Radar repositions​

-"They seem to track our location"

Object in Visible Light​

-Object Rotating at a rapid pace
-Dark regions in the Object curious
-"There are areas where the light doesn't seem to cross" - "possibly the poles of a gravitational generator"
-The areas that are dark are the absence of light, "they're absorbing light or not allowing light to escape"
-The dark areas seem to be darker than even the ambient light surrounding it far beyond the object
-Object Blue Shifts and Red Shifts

Brothers on Mick West​

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That was Phase 2.

They are moving on to Phase 3 next, with a plan to focus on what is going on inside the Ocean.

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I disagree with the notion that Faggotry is a choice.

Sure there is some element of it that is premeditated, but think about it like this:
I hold a gun to your head and tell you I'm going to blow your brains out unless you climax inside of someone (or vice versa).

I hand you a phone and it only has 2 Apps on it, Tinder and Grindr.

Which app do you select?

To make sure I have the best chance of not getting my head blown off, I'm picking Grindr every time.

If that's not gay, I don't know what is.

And then of course the Birth Order Effect... etc. There's a strong case for some biological component there.

I understand the sentiment though and there is maybe some degree of truth to it. Certainly one could tone the Faggotry down a bit if willed. I think Trannyisim is basically just Faggotry+ (caused by the Birth Order Effect or environmental); Faggotry taken to the extreme, and is the largest expression of "choice" within that framework.

Statistically Gender differences equal out with age, I think it's sort of the same with Faggotry in contrast to Normal. The older you get the less pronounced all these differences become, and the more we all just end up in the same kind of grey soup. If a Faggot doesn't chop their dick off and you leave them alone they basically just become a normal person after awhile, other than their choice of partner, and even then you just kind of slot into a traditional gender norm of top and bottom like Normal people.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

I disagree with the notion that Faggotry is a choice.

Sure there is some element of it that is premeditated, but think about it like this:
I hold a gun to your head and tell you I'm going to blow your brains out unless you climax inside of someone (or vice versa).

I hand you a phone and it only has 2 Apps on it, Tinder and Grindr.

Which app do you select?

To make sure I have the best chance of not getting my head blown off, I'm picking Grindr every time.

If that's not gay, I don't know what is.

And then of course the Birth Order Effect... etc. There's a strong case for some biological component there.

I understand the sentiment though and there is maybe some degree of truth to it. Certainly one could tone the Faggotry down a bit if willed. I think Trannyisim is basically just Faggotry+ (caused by the Birth Order Effect or environmental); Faggotry taken to the extreme, and is the largest expression of "choice" within that framework.

Statistically Gender differences equal out with age, I think it's sort of the same with Faggotry in contrast to Normal. The older you get the less pronounced all these differences become, and the more we all just end up in the same kind of grey soup. If a Faggot doesn't chop their dick off and you leave them alone they basically just become a normal person after awhile, other than their choice of partner, and even then you just kind of slot into a traditional gender norm of top and bottom like Normal people.

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By the way, how is your feeling on Matt Ford after dissecting that stream? You were harsh on him before.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

I just want to know if the aliens are hot and have hair and could be converted to Catholicism.

 

[A Proud Black Woman]

Black people are aliens. I am black! Therefore, I am an alien.

 

[fukefacedog]

how is your feeling on Matt Ford after dissecting that stream? You were harsh on him before.

It seems like he (and Elizondo) have cooled down a bit on the social media Scientology harassment tactics, but he is still a bit of a black box to me.

At the moment he feels like a positive force.

 

[Standardized Profile]

I think about it with ancient astronaut shit too. what if Aliens were represented in some creation myths or whatever and actually all along the Hindus or whoever were the closest to what actually happened. Imagining the religious fallout to discovering Greek mythology or something was the truth all along is inherently funny to me.

The problem with this is none of the classical mythologies we have now represent the original form of those stories. Greek mythology is just the Proto-Indo-European pantheon slathered in olive oil, with some fan fiction about the Bronze Age. PIE Deiwos Pater* became Greek Zeus Pater, Latin Iupiter, Sanskrit Dyaus Pitr, etc. Sumero-Babylonian mythology is just a series of competing cities going "Nuh-uh, my tutelary deity and/or culture hero is the bestest!" Sometimes they even copy-pasted one god onto another. And the Hebrew Bible is a bunch of polytheistic Semitic myths edited together for continuity and monotheism. Oh, and the toledots. Can't forget all those begats.

We can infer a little bit about older forms of these myths, but we'll probably never know anything about the real prehistoric mythology. If you look at the really old symbols, the oldest identifiable paintings and sculptures, our ancestors were mostly interested in the local fauna and fat women. Basically it was less ancient astronaut and more ancient furry convention.

* I think this may be the reconstructed northwest Indo-European form, so it wouldn't represent the ancestor of the Greek, Latin, and Sanskrit forms that follow. Sorry.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

First Hand Alert! Green Beret Randy Anderson:
https://x.com/alchemyamerican/status/1878951513110052929 (archive) (Reddit)

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NEW: U.S. Army Green Beret shares his 2014 encounter with a hovering metallic sphere at a classified underground Navy facility in Indiana. Randy Anderson was told the object was ‘off-world technology’ recovered from a crashed craft.

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Calvine photo possibility at Loch Tummel, which is just south of Calvine. Link to google maps in comments. I made this gif quickly just to show that rock formation across the water in similar aspect to the Calvine photo.


Retrieve UAPs. Reverse-Engineer Them. Release Game-Changing Tech to the World. (archive)

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And everyone fapped.

 

[Mystery Spy]

If we're talking about religion, here's why I’m skeptical about the demon theory regarding UFOs. Believe it or not, I’ve actually watched several Christian channels discuss the UFO phenomenon because I find the idea of them being extradimensional beings extremely fascinating. However, I ended up disappointed. Their entire reasoning for claiming UFOs are demons essentially boils down to:

a) People who claim to be abducted often promote non-Christian ideologies.
b) They go away once someone calls upon a higher power.

Point A can easily be explained since many UFO "abudctees" are often grifters and/or already aligned with fringe beliefs. As for Point B, even if it were true, I could imagine an advanced civilization retreating the moment they realized someone was in distress and invoking a higher power.

For me, the biggest issue is that this "demon" interpretation aligns more with pop-culture depictions of demons than with traditional Christian theology. The idea of demons floating around just to be captured by blurry cameras, do some light shows, and mildly surprise people on the internet doesn't match their religious M.O. of committing terrifying and supernatural acts of evil. You could stretch the definition of "demon" to include what other cultures describe as imps or fairies, but that’s not what Christians typically mean when they refer to demons.

 

[GradeAGobbleDeeGook]

First Hand Alert! Randy Anderson:
https://x.com/alchemyamerican/status/1878951513110052929 (archive) (Reddit)

doesnt pass for me
i listened to his story and i think hes full of shit, and thats not all
check this out

If anyone has had similar experiences or can add ANY insight on what Randy saw, please reach out to me or @UAPGERB (who introduced me to Randy) and is the best up and coming UFO researcher in the world right now.

his picture LMFAO this is UAPGERB
this is the man who introduced "Randy Anderson" to Jesse

his twitter

https://x.com/UAPGERB

his full-of-clickbait YT channel with dogshit videos appealing to a younger crowd

https://www.youtube.com/@UAPGerb/videos

 

[fukefacedog]

Michael Shellenberger and Tucker Carlson discuss New Jersey Drones​

Part 1​

Part 2​

Part 3​

Part 4​

Part 5​