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California is so gay that all their gay laws sound like names for AIDS medicine
Prop 13 allows us to have the lowest property tax percentages in the nation (aside from 0% in tax-free states) and the Democrats have been trying to get rid of it but are afraid of an angry mob of boomers. It’s probably the single most conservative example of tax law in any jurisdiction ever.

Compared to somewhere like New York, California actually has a number of based laws on the books due to its Republican history.
 
THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAL
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Dunno if this has already been posted, but this is neat to see the extent of the damage in the palisades fire: https://recovery.lacounty.gov/palisades-fire/

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(Red = Destroyed, Orange = Fucked, Green = Lightly singed, Black = No damage, niggers free to loot)

Fascinating to see instances where a house survived with no damage but the houses on either side were completely destroyed.
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When you make your house out of Adamantium

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Fuck this guy in particular
 
And if you look at the destruction, those houses that obviously cheated on the restrictions and had well watered lawns were more likely to survives. As they had a non flammable buffer zone around the house.

Let this be a lesson that every over reactive government regulation is ill thought out and will have a far more damaging side effect than anyone predicts. It happens every fucking time. Government regulations are all based on "1 dude thinks it's a good idea and nobody asks any questions"
It's pretty amazing just how little of a fire break you actually need, which only reinforces the incompetence of Californians and the government they chose.
 
Compared to somewhere like New York, California actually has a number of based laws on the books due to its Republican history.
People forget California didnt used to be so bad. The entire thing isnt a liberal hellscape as portrayed in the media. If everything north of Sacramento split away and became its own state Id probably move there. Its like the other 2 west coast states, ruined by their major cities filled with liberals. Liberals have the opposite of the midas touch, everything they touch turns to shit.
 
And if you look at the destruction, those houses that obviously cheated on the restrictions and had well watered lawns were more likely to survives. As they had a non flammable buffer zone around the house.

Let this be a lesson that every over reactive government regulation is ill thought out and will have a far more damaging side effect than anyone predicts. It happens every fucking time. Government regulations are all based on "1 dude thinks it's a good idea and nobody asks any questions"
Governments can be competent. Governments can be incompetent. That is why you need competent people in government.
 
Prop 13 allows us to have the lowest property tax percentages in the nation (aside from 0% in tax-free states) and the Democrats have been trying to get rid of it but are afraid of an angry mob of boomers. It’s probably the single most conservative example of tax law in any jurisdiction ever.

Compared to somewhere like New York, California actually has a number of based laws on the books due to its Republican history.
Property taxes so low that your local government aids (haha, aids) and abets arson to get them raised

Without insurance, you’re all going to sell your crispy dirt lots at fire sale prices

And how much do those rates help when gas artificially costs a dollar a gallon more than for normal people, speeding tickets are like $500, and dmv wait times are like three hours?

Anyways, it’s the circle of life. Slash and burn government so they can grift a new generation of new, brown h1b Californians
 
With the current drought conditions and the allure of loot I'm kind of surprised that we haven't seen alot more arson, maybe it will start to pick up since the fires are starting to get under control and the opportunity for looting is decreasing.


There were pictures of houses burned down to the foundation, absolutely nothing left, and not 5 feet away there is a beautiful green lawn that would make Hank Hill proud. Those standing trees and green lawns were kept well watered. I though Cali had some kind of law/ordinance in place that limited water use for landscaping due to the drought? If anyone is familiar with the water situation feel free to correct me. Maybe it doesn't apply to LA because droughts are for poor people.
It is, as Khan put it, "Secret Asian watering technique!" Back during drought times, so about 10 years ago, no one cared about conserving water despite the official status. That's how I knew California was doomed, its citizens have no care for a common good or a willingness to sacrifice. Stupid politicians need to be held accountable and all, but it's the regular people that caused it. These fires are a failure of civic duty for everyone.
It's the right kind of fake, that speaks to a larger truth.
We call that art.
 
It's only been a week. Wildfires can take weeks/months to get to full containment depending on size, location, and number of fires at the time.

It might be a while before the two big fires are contained. Here's some 2024 fires of similar size with the start date and containment date.

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One thing I didn't know is that many of the houses in the Palisades were built 70 to 100 years ago and are part of generational inheritance for the families there.

Another quirk of California law is that the property taxes are based on the price of the property AT SALE. Which means these multi million dollar properties were paying the value of the land at the start of the 1920s. Now that they have burned though any new reconstruction will have to pay modern valuation in property tax.


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Sounds like a good time to be a politician. Taxpayers are about to hand you a raise!
 
It's only been a week. Wildfires can take weeks/months to get to full containment depending on size, location, and number of fires at the time.
That’s usually when they’re out on the side of a mountain where people have to parachute in to cut fire lines, not where you’re supposed to be able to spray them with a hose

This is libshit stuff, calling LA the wilderness.
 
Quick question: The property taxes on most of those houses are over $100,000 annually.
A lot of people pay those on a monthly basis.

Does a homeowner have to still pay with these levels of criminal mismanagement?
Do you have to pay if your property, neighbors, and township are burned to ash?
I assume they can get a reassesment and pay a lower tax. it'll never be $0 but less than $100k
 
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This is libshit stuff, calling LA the wilderness.
packs of wild, feral animals? check. uncontrolled fire burning through massive swaths of land? check. completely unliveable for anyone who has even a modicum of living standard? check.

i dunno buddy, living in LA is ticking off all the same boxes that camping in norcal does.
 
I assume they can get a reassesment and pay a lower tax. it'll never be $0 but less than $100k
The majority of the value of these properties is the location. The lot value theoretically shouldn't change. If the properties are re-assessed much lower that's going to bankrupt a shit-ton of people who used their $10 million Malibu properties as collateral to secure other unrelated debt. There's a BUNCH of that. How else do you put the value of your 8-figure asset that you'll never sell to work for you? You leverage it, which I guarantee a whole bunch of these property-owners have done. When the value of the collateral falls below the amount owed the loan gets called.

We're about to see a war between all these rich people. Gov't action that could make one of them whole will bankrupt his neighbor and vice-versa. A real mess.
 
One thing I didn't know is that many of the houses in the Palisades were built 70 to 100 years ago and are part of generational inheritance for the families there.

Another quirk of California law is that the property taxes are based on the price of the property AT SALE. Which means these multi million dollar properties were paying the value of the land at the start of the 1920s. Now that they have burned though any new reconstruction will have to pay modern valuation in property tax.
This is something I've been seeing all across the planet.

Governments everywhere have been MASSIVELY fucking SEETHING about generational inheritances, generational mortgages, and generational properties in general. The inflation (they caused, mind you) has made the deal they've gotten on those properties so astronomically poor in hindsight, they've been doing every scummy thing possible to try to undermine it. In other countries they've been passing green laws to bankrupt farmers and seize land, in other places they've just straight up taken land, and it wouldn't surprise me if in a place like America where none of this flies that they simply "let nature take it's course". It's not that they'll intentionally start these fires, it's that they're simply not going to help you when the time comes. The amount of money raw land is worth is starting to really set in for the elite and governments everywhere and it's driving them up a fucking wall.

It's a happy accident that they just can't aid or assist people and you'll have to sell your home and destroyed land for pennies on the dollar and they'll get to make millions off of it.
 
The majority of the value of these properties is the location. The lot value theoretically shouldn't change.
Theoretically, but if you can't get insurance or the coastal commission won't let you rebuild, the lot value might drop precipitously.
 
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