📚 Megathread Trannies posting their L's Online - Heckin valid people posting their funny misfortunes on the internet

[Mad_Dog]

Retards really do stick out like a sore thumb when surrounded by autists, don't they? Case in point.

 

[Dang dirty Pidgeons!]

Autism isn’t a single disease, it’s more like an end process of stuff going wrong, rather like a fever or being short stature or cancer

I think most of that is social - it's just that doctors go "bingo" when they find some genetic markers amassing in these ill-fitting kids and teens and then invent groups around that. The process is always this: some early 20th century dude finds a behaviorally similar groups of weird kids, a post ww2 "geneticist" or brain scan enthusiast find some in between, shared markers, they double down and zero in on that particular subset of the former behaviorally defined group and redefine the behavioral "symptoms" from that new group and then do away (for economic reasons) with the hard science tools and go by behavior again and end up with a completely synthetic, over -or underdiagnosed "disorder". If they really went large scale with the brain scan and genetic testing, they would find that it's worthless, because then it would show many unassuming people without issues also have those. That'd be my bet. I guess these markers, which don't seem to do anything on their own, unlike full on down syndrome, are just amounting to acting a little off as a toddler and kindergartener and the rest is their upbringing's doing.

 

[Szfynks]

Retards really do stick out like a sore thumb when surrounded by autists, don't they? Case in point.

Tbh, most autists ARE borderline retarded. People just focus more on the quirky aspie ones or savants.

 

[AssignedEva]

The process is always this: some early 20th century dude finds a behaviorally similar groups of weird kids, a post ww2 "geneticist" or brain scan enthusiast find some in between, shared markers, they double down and zero in on that particular subset of the former behaviorally defined group and redefine the behavioral "symptoms" and then do away (for economic reasons) with the hard science tools and go by behavior again and then end up with a completely synthetic, over -or underdiagnosed "disorder".

I'd also point out another factor, which I mentioned in another thread before- it links in with Paulo Freire's Pedagogy of the Oppressed (oppressed people must play a key role in their own liberation, teachers should not see students as passive receptacles of their knowledge but instead have dialogue with them) to Robert Alford, Mike Oliver and the Union of the Physically Impaired against Segregation's work creating an emancipatory model of disability (disability is not the same as impairment; disabled people should be understood as a class oppressed by a society rather than just people suffering a medical condition; disability is a social construction). The role patient advocacy has played in the shift we've seen cannot be understated.

The conventional approach to medicine is basically that "this person has something wrong with them, the doctor will identify what it is and therefore treat them accordingly". Since the latter half of the 20th century this has been undermined. It's not necessarily a bad thing, as it has helped rebalance the scales away from malpractice, but TRAs and neurodiversity activists have this in common. The gold standard of autism treatment has been Applied Behavioural Analysis, which is basically trying to get autistic people to recognise when they're being autistic about something and teaching them to knock it off, historically using aversives (reinforcing it through punishment like yelling at them and smacking them, or even electrocuting them) and also dosing them up with antipsychotics.

They don't do that any more, which is good (since, generally speaking, most people agree that electrocuting children is a bad thing) and the shift has been to using rewards as a motivator. But the neurodiversity movement argues that ABA can be stigmatising and pathologising so e.g. trying to get an autistic kid to stop stimming by rocking back and forth in their chair is harmful. Consequently autism has started shifting from "problem to be treated" to "natural variation that people should accomodate". And again, I don't completely disagree with that approach but I'm sure we've all encountered the people who take it to extremes ("Why did you fail to attend this meeting?" "I'm neurodiverse! You should accept I'm going to miss meetings sometimes!").

And since the neurodiversity movement argues for removing barriers and self advocacy, and since autism no longer involves getting smacked about for talking about trains but instead validates you as special and different and someone that people need to make accommodations for, it's created a situation where people are actively motivated to doctor shop for an autism diagnosis. I'm sure you can see the parallel with gender dysphoria as a condition the doctor treats to a declarative identity that should be affirmed and accomodated.

 

[Otterly]

post ww2 "geneticist" or brain scan enthusiast find some in between, shared markers,

I guess these markers, which don't seem to do anything on their own

There are a few which do do something alone. There are some single gene mutations like MeCP2, or ADNP, which cause a syndrome of which autism is a part. It’s a reproducible part and even the mouse models show the same paw flapping in at least one of them. I do get the point about scattershot ‘this is a marker honest’ stuff, and my disdain for some types of brain scan enthusiasts is palpable. FMRI in particular is bunk
Autism is a thing. It’s not a monolithic thing, and it’s massively over diagnosed, but I think it’s a useful diagnosis sometimes. it’s not quite the same thing as simple ‘mental lack’ but rather a set of shared characteristics that can be associated with retardation or without.
Savantism is a whole thread in itself. That is very, very interesting, especially acquired savantism
@AssignedEva the thing with ABA is that it can really help, if it’s done right. Someone who is not ‘24-hour care’ but who can just about hold down a job will find their life improves a lot if they can both manage the weirder stuff and also keep enough of it in private to soothe themselves. Just beating people until they stop rocking is awful, but teaching them alternative less ‘obvious’ ways to when they’re out in public can be really helpful.
Personally I don’t think the ‘everyone else adapts and I don’t ’ stuff works across the board. There are places where we should adapt, wheelchair ramps and a bit of understanding go a long way, but just letting a child who could present almost normally grow up with behaviours that will stigmatise them isn’t great either. There’s a balance to be struck. When you go too far in celebrating disability you get deaf activists and munchie moms, rather than people trying to get their kids as involved in the world as they can be.

 

[Dang dirty Pidgeons!]

There are a few which do do something alone. There are some single gene mutations like MeCP2, or ADNP, which cause a syndrome of which autism is a part. It’s a reproducible part and even the mouse models show the same paw flapping in at least one of them.

Yeah, but is "paw flapping" just coinciding with what can become full fledged autism, is it maybe just a weird quirk that can occur isolated of the other problems? Kids will now get autism'd for the flapping, even if that alone may not be IT. And they will get othered for that weird tick alone anyhow. But then, how many adults do it still? Only the most exalted, certified autists, I'm sure. If I'm thinking hard on it, I have seen it in little kids more than once, but never in adults. As a layman, I would actually think it's too common to make anything of it, but I def. seen it more than once and was kinda shocked that it's supposed to be indicative of autism.
If I saw a kid in a corner doing that some of the time, I would actually be very inclined to purposefully NOT make a thing out of it, to protect that child. Having seen all the insanity which ensues for even less "hard" and way more vague behavioral "markers" like acting too much like the other sex is supposed to...

Or am I wrong here and that paw flapping marker IS known to cause the other brain anomalies, which are linked and grouped to and into the autism syndrome?

Ah, the MeCP2 induced mouse syndrome is just vaguely relatable to autism:

In the syndrome I’m thinking of, which is caused by MeCP2, no it’s a very direct replica of the human condition. It’s a pretty unpleasant one which mainly affects girls, and they develop apparently normally up to about 18m then lose any acquired language and develop specific stereotyped behaviours, autism and digestive issues. They die young. The mouse model replicates the human, from the biochemical to the behavioural - this one is turning into one the textbook mouse model examples which is why I mention it.
For other stuff, it’s much fuzzier. Fragile X for example I’d say autism occurs along with the symptoms, and is variable.

I’m kind of devils advocate here because I do get what people are saying; there isn’t a single-cause thing called autism like there is for example a disease called measles. It’s much more varied in what causes ‘the set of symptoms we label as autism.’ But a lot of medical conditions are like that - it’s a set of symptoms we cluster together and lump a label on.

Again, very informative.

 

[Dick Johnson]

Did a double take parsing the subject line. STP == "stand to pee".
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How about it gentlemen? You stand to pee. Right? Does that make you euphoric?

Lol at 'something that feels a little more natural in the underwear'. Nothing says 'natural feeling' like something that's not part of your body.

Pooners out here trying to amass diminutive king energy while looking like bloated hags with 05:00 shadow.

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Tax: Another weeaboo faggot tranny is whinging about how unwell they are and seeking validation from internet strangers.

He LARPs like the hikikomori from Zetsubou Sensei, but he’s more like an okama from One Piece… except without the martial arts prowess or the charisma.

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They’re even unintentionally doxing themselves publicly for companionship! What the fuck is Bham and why the hell is it associated with the Pacific Northwest?

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They also have a now-deleted relationship post where they reveal more about their demented psyche.

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I sure hope if he goes to Seattle to meet up that it turns out to be legit. Hours from home, few-to-no people that are going to question his whereabouts, and a 'freeze' stress response adds up to an ideal victim.

"They were only service workers" ah yes, because working X job makes you less than human. The state of these people's worldviews.

I don't think it's a value judgement on the person, I think that it's saying that an interaction with a store clerk or waiter isn't the same thing as chatting with someone at a bar or in some type of social group.

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I'll also add, a guy who's exclusively into transwomen is likely going to troon out himself. Wonder if that well paying job he has is in IT.

 

[Otterly]

Yeah, but is "paw flapping" just coinciding with what can become full fledged autism, is it maybe just a weird quirk that can occur isolated of the other problems?

In the syndrome I’m thinking of, which is caused by MeCP2, no it’s a very direct replica of the human condition. It’s a pretty unpleasant one which mainly affects girls, and they develop apparently normally up to about 18m then lose any acquired language and develop specific stereotyped behaviours, autism and digestive issues. They die young. The mouse model replicates the human, from the biochemical to the behavioural - this one is turning into one the textbook mouse model examples which is why I mention it.
For other stuff, it’s much fuzzier. Fragile X for example I’d say autism occurs along with the symptoms, and is variable.

I’m kind of devils advocate here because I do get what people are saying; there isn’t a single-cause thing called autism like there is for example a disease called measles. It’s much more varied in what causes ‘the set of symptoms we label as autism.’ But a lot of medical conditions are like that - it’s a set of symptoms we cluster together and lump a label on.

 

[Syikeblade]

Here on R/gaytransmen we have the gay fetishes in denial so they won't get their feelings hurt.
And here some of the juicy comments:



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it's interesting how their different from their male counterparts.

The men get mad when their aren't any real women to harass, and while the ftm's do get mad when gays reject them.
Being called out on their fetish seems to really set them off far more.

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[Sean Andalou]

Self doubt due to encroaching sanity.
Reassurance in the comments.
Sanity be gone!

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I am not a paraphilic male who get aroused by imagining myself as a woman. I am a trans woman who started exploring my gender due to fetishes. I did not find being a woman arousing but I was a woman in my arousing stories.
I designed characters for myself to roleplay on bed, alone. After a while I started to play these characters in day to day life.
And no, I was not a stereotypical girl who always knew I was a girl since childhood, never tried to get in girl clothes secretly and never even tried make-up.

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More comments in the same vein, but this is the most concise as well as being the most popular.

Here's an excerpt from a comment further down the list.

So, what you're describing is dysphoria, not autogynephillia, you're just looking at it backwards.

 

[Dr. Butt]

From my understanding, they were fooling nobody, so what are they complaining about?

This is NPD. She's Tess Holliday but with poonerism instead of fat.

 

[deermeat]

So, what you're describing is dysphoria, not autogynephillia, you're just looking at it backwards.

This is just a mockery of dsyphoria. I know plenty on here view GD as stupid, but even then I'm sure people can understand the pain of BDD.

I wish they were this honest toward normies, I wish they explained that their "dsyphoria" meant this, funny how they are self aware enough to lie to the public to avoid outing themselves as disgusting predators.

 

[Paper Machete]

This is just a mockery of dsyphoria. I know plenty on here view GD as stupid, but even then I'm sure people can understand the pain of BDD.

I don't necessarily think that dysphoria is completely unreal. Just that it's rather a symptom of other things rather than a diagnosis itself. Another user (I think in the detrans thread) mentioned that it comes back up when they're stressed and anxious and going through a rut. It's something your mind creates to be a solution to other problems, basically constantly ruminating on how XYZ would be different/okay if you were a woman or a man. It's not something that springs up on it's own. It's always, always downstream of something else. HSTS for example, aren't dysphoric because they're "supposed" to be women, they're dysphoric because they'd rather be women than have to deal with what it means to be men that are into other men. That's what most kiwis want people to be honest about, because trying to get real with root causes would help a lot more people from putting themselves on damaging drugs and surgeons' butcher blocks.

 

[Nobody Important]

All I know about the whole Baldwin thing is that some troons are faggots and some troons are perverts, but the faggots are still perverts and the perverts are still faggots.

 

[Caesar]

But I thought you were always a man...

I don't necessarily think that dysphoria is completely unreal.

Dysphoria is real, and I think gender EXPRESSION, to a degree, is real (and a large part of it is social) - there are traits and behaviours generally associated with males and females which some people don't ascribe to, and it's fine, but it doesn't make you the opposite sex. Its not because you have a wrong sexed brain though. Its because you have a mental condition. You should recieve health and support, but the way society helps you currently, in the long run, frankly is just cruel. No other dysphorias so we commit to surgeries and corrective medications (as in cross sex hormones, weight loss pills for annorexocs, etc). We don't do tummy tucks on bulemics even though they think they're lardarses and even if it might make them feel better in the short term and possibly even prevent or postpone a suicide, Because we know it's both physically harmful and in the long run mentally harmful.

Now many trans people in 2025 don't even experience dysphoria but I don't think anybody who has any idea how the brain works would think it's not possible to both think you should have different physical characteristics and for that to cause mental distress.

While I'm dumping my opinion nobody cares about, I don't even care if Bob wants to wear a dress and make no other feminine changes or change his legal or nickname to Barbara. It really doesn't matter to me. I'll even be polite and placate him to a degree. You can't ask me to accept Bob is a woman though, it's just not logical. That's not live and let live. That's me capitulating to his fantasy and I won't do it.

AGPs are also obviously real and may or may not have some links to "gender" dysphoria, that I'm unsure about, they may be comorbitities... I am not a doctor though and no big institution will touch such a study in this climate so I can't find out either.

 

[Dang dirty Pidgeons!]

This is just a mockery of dsyphoria. I know plenty on here view GD as stupid, but even then I'm sure people can understand the pain of BDD.

I wish they were this honest toward normies, I wish they explained that their "dsyphoria" meant this, funny how they are self aware enough to lie to the public to avoid outing themselves as disgusting predators.

I think most common people know this but are lead astray by what amounts to "don't believe your lying eyes".

We all know what they mean:

I want to be all submissive and purdy, but I'm not as prudy as the real girls! Also: everyone hates fags.
Now I'm stressing out over my body to the point of self mutilation, in a desperate bid to look like a real girl.

For TIFs it's the opposite:

I hate being reduced to a sex object, men scare me. I want to become a man now! Free me of this flesh prison, peel it away, mr surgeon!

It's troons who do absurdist abstractions of these and put up ruses to fool us into thinking it's something else.

 

[Paper Machete]

Well, I mean, I think in large part it's an issue of naming. What is really going on is a delusion. Why that delusion is there can be any number of reasons. I think in a lot of cases the dysphoria is a result of dysmorphia that is itself a result of beginning to believe you should have certain traits, as opposed to beginning with thinking your nose is just too large and ruminating on it. "If I had boobs, I wouldn't be a gay man." And then begins to feel bad about not having boobs because the fantasy of what life would be like IF becomes very ingrained.

Believing you are/should be what you are not is a delusional state. Is basically what I'm trying to get across. The person themselves may be full on believing it but why they (want to) believe it is the story not the fact that they do. You can't take people like that at face value because their won explanations are just in service to the lie.

 

[Sean Andalou]

I don't necessarily think that dysphoria is completely unreal. Just that it's rather a symptom of other things rather than a diagnosis itself.

In the pre-troon era of psychoanalysis "dysphoria" simply meant the neurotic symptom of irrational unhappiness, with no particular implication of it being about one's sex. To be addressed on an individual basis, not a general category.

The troons made it all about themselves. Typical, am I right?

 

[Aunt Carol]

The troons made it all about themselves. Typical, am I right?

That's why the new trend to self-diagnose with "Reaction-Sensitive Dysphoria" -- "dysphoria" is the troon word for "or else" so it helps make a better cudgel.

 

[Jacques1194]

TikTok kids getting a dose of reality and realizing that non western countries aren't the progressive utopias for LGBTQ people that they made them out to be. No joke I had some idiot tell me that China was pro trans because there's a T.V show host that's out as a TIM and that proved China supports trans people.