Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[whotfsaidthat]

Don't know about that...
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The two faces of a happy man... (yes, I'm collecting these now)
Newest glamshots of @cidpup's SRS. I just checked and there's isn't much new on them otherwise.
As always, with a side of glib gleefulness on his husband's part - @derbeste1977. For you vomit inducing needs.

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The two halves of janus joined in harmony...
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He's the happiest when he masks his face and thinks of himself as a dog, so healthy and wholesome...
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of course hes happy, wouldnt you be happy if you had such a good result? cis women WISH they had a designer pussy like this

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haydurs will react with horrifying, lunacy or islamic content.

 

[UnfOrtuNatE BaskEtt]

of course hes happy, wouldnt you be happy if you had such a good result? cis women WISH they had a designer pussy like this

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haydurs will react with horrifying, lunacy or islamic content.

I have obtained a photo of his January Starter Dilation Pack....and also of his February Intermediate Dilation Pack...I am currently negotiating with NASA regarding his March Super-Duper Advanced Dilation Pack....

 

[Mad_Dog]

of course hes happy, wouldnt you be happy if you had such a good result? cis women WISH they had a designer pussy like this

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That's a man-sized pussy

 

[Caesar]

This kind of stuff would horrify Dr. Mengele

he would find the results horrifying but doing the procedures a barrel of laughs probably

 

[and I must scream]

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Oh god. I've seen this video elsewhere but I didn't want to believe it. I thought it is probably a pooner larping as a severely disabled person, not like we haven't seen them do similar things before. Then I clicked the Twitter link, and then I got and watch the rest of the posts and videos about her. Horrifying.

TBH people with CP arent retarded its a motor thing so that makes more sense

True (although technically it could be coupled with retardation), but even if she is 100% mentally sound, you should not do it to anyone, let alone someone who is so disabled they require a 24/7 care and cannot perform the most basic tasks by themselves. (I didn't think you imply that, by the way, I'm just ranting and expressing my horror).

Even if she got brainwashed by the transcult and on its face actually wanted this, you cannot convince me that her boobs or the fact that people call her "she" and girl/woman is what bothers her in life, and not the fact that she can't communicate properly or do anything by herself. You don't take a person who is already very disabled and add on top of that another surgery that is 100% unnecessary. I know the complication rate of "top surgery" isn't high but it still higher than zero, why the hell risk that? What if she gets that fantom nipple thing, she could feel annoying pain that would drive her crazy on top of all the other very annoying and frustrating things she already experiences on a daily basis, and she probably wouldn't even be able to explain what she feels. But hey, trans joy is the most important thing here, isn't it.

And giving her testosterone, what the fuck? Imagine, she is basically going through all the side effects that testosterone has on women, the so-called "second puberty" - irritation, swing moods, aggression, increased sexual drive, acne that could be painful or irritating - but she can't do anything about it, she has no outlet. She cannot masturbate, she can't do any physical activity to release aggressive energy and irritation, she is just left with all the frustration and irritation, on top of the regular frustration and irritation she experiences because she can't do the most basic activities and because of her difficulties to communicate. How is that improving her quality of life?

As I scrolled through her Instagram posts I noticed a familiar face:

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My beloved pooner, Jamie Raines, also known as Jammidodger (and her wife Shaaba). Also promoting her book, because of course. I abhor this woman for all the damage she does, influencing thousands and thousands of teenagers and young adults, mostly female, to believe they are trans. But she is not a lolcow, so I can't open a dedicated thread for her or anything. Still, let it be told that I hate this woman, and this video makes me hate her even more, something that I didn't think possible, but here we are.

 

[Fëanor Curufinwë]

https://www.reddit.com/r/phallo/s/Qlw49QEIHS

11 weeks post op abdominal

A week shy of my 3 months post op with Dr Freet. Most of the wounds separations have closed up. The one on the base of the shaft took about 45 days to close.

I appreciate the recommendations especially the guys who recommended medihoney.
I was taking vitamin C, collagen and fish oil as well the last month. I think the collagen and the medíhoney helped the most as far as closing up the wounds.

It’s getting a little bit easier to wear my old clothes, I’ve now been able to let it hang as long as I wear supportive underwear. Currently I’m about 6-3/4” in length and 8” girth toward the tip 7” girth at the base.

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The top pic looks like they tried to stitch an obese person's upper half to a normal sized pair of legs. Oh and the rotdog looks like one of those long balloons they make balloon art with.

 

[JohnnyG]

I've been hanging onto this for ages, because I wanted to make a proper post about it. But I figured I'd just upload it and let you disseminate for yourselves.

(the text; VOILA!) TA-DAAAAAAA! *jazz hands*

The fact that they described phalloplasty as the "“Mount Everest” of transgender surgery" tells you all you need to know about the complexity.

As horrific as the images are, the language/tone are insane. Even if this was some heckin' valid, life-saving procedure, you'd expect a heroically gifted surgeon to say something understated like "this is a very challenging procedure, but thanks to help from such-and-such team, we've made big strides in patient outcomes".

Instead we get utter hubris combined with Reddit snark, in a document whose supposed audience is other professionals. "Mount Everest", "10 easy steps", "voila", "bonus round"...just needs the doc in a Marvel costume saying "well that was awkward!" to the camera after a life-altering complication.

One dr says it is not medically safe without clearance from a sleep dr, so what does OP do? Dr shop until they find one that tells them what they want to hear.

The "self-identifies as having apnea" is both an insane application of the "everything is identity" phenomenon (if I don't identify with my uncontrollable blood sugar or growing tumor, I'm Healthy At Any Cancer!) and a message to other troons to just lie to surgeons to get their cosmetic surgery regardless of the added risks.

 

[Breadbear]

I'd have to disagree.

People with a disability like this are a lot more dependant on others and have a harder time to make informed decisions or do their own research.

Any of us can whip out their phone and check if what they're being told is true, half truth or just disinformation, I don't think that's as simple for someone like this.

Add to that the fear of being alone or isolated because you don't go along with the people around you who 'feign' liking you as long as you play along while probably dealing with low self-esteem makes this person very susceptible to this sort of shit.

I think she's a victim as much as any other socially isolated pooner. I'm arguing that her disability is physical, not mental. She's clearly able to use the internet, seeing as she has social media accounts. I've seen people with less physical ability than her use the internet by themselves. Google is but a eye gaze and wink away.

Of course, other people had to shuttle her to and from her appointments that she may or may not have made herself. But ultimately she had to choose to say yes or no to the surgery.

I don't think she should be on testosterone, though (even less than any other pooner). That needs continual consent that she would have difficulty giving or retracting, and has higher peer pressure since she isn't the one who can administer her own shots.

I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just saying that she's capable of consenting.

 

[Chandelier]

My beloved pooner, Jamie Raines, also known as Jammidodger (and her wife Shaaba). Also promoting her book, because of course. I abhor this woman for all the damage she does, influencing thousands and thousands of teenagers and young adults, mostly female, to believe they are trans. But she is not a lolcow, so I can't open a dedicated thread for her or anything. Still, let it be told that I hate this woman, and this video makes me hate her even more, something that I didn't think possible, but here we are.

The fact this vile bitch can make so many videos calling JKR a monstrous transphobe while she can stand there beside a non verbal woman and smile and think its empowering to get her tits chopped off is pure sadism. Jamie, remember, got her PhD so quickly because she pulled the trans card and does not do any research or work in psychology, which normally takes ten years of study. She hates her PhD advisors, including J. Michael Bailey, and never read his work "because he's a transphobe" despite his dozens of papers in sexual behaviour. She will tell people her nicked artery was no big deal, and wants to act as if her 4 inch metoidioplasty will please her Indian wife - which may not be far from what she would've gotten from an Indian man anyways.

 

[Otterly]

As horrific as the images are, the language/tone are insane.

Isn’t it just? That really hit me as well.
@Breadbear im not sure she is. Purely from getting a patient into a trial, which I recognise is not the same as routine treatment, but… Physical disability and communication barriers are an automatic trip to the ‘vulnerable’ category in a trial. Ability to consent depends on the thing being done as well as the person. So the retarded can give consent in some contexts, example would be asking for consent from a downs patient for something minor like talking blood, vs something life changing like sterilisation. The former they’d be deemed able to consent to but the latter v unlikely, simple because they’re unable to understand the ramifications.
If we are assuming her anoxic brain injury was purely her cerebellum, there’s still the stroke and the seizures. And there’s presumably puberty blockers lowering IQ, and there’s the inability to directly communicate and the parents apparently making a living off her which equals vulnerable due to coercion risk.
All these things would make any ethical doctor stop cold. Her being wheelchair bound and unable to do self care means she has an extra layer of dependency post ops. Even if she wants it I don’t think she is capable of consent, and this shouldn’t be done, it’s just horrific.

 

[monstrous bubo]

You don't take a person who is already very disabled and add on top of that another surgery that is 100% unnecessary. I know the complication rate of "top surgery" isn't high but it still higher than zero, why the hell risk that?

One unappreciated fact about mastectomies is that you must do physio post-op because the scar tissue can limit your full range of arm motion. So here we have someone with physical limitations already who then has an unnecessary operation which can further limit their movements, and will have difficulty in doing the physio to preserve what movement she has. Top work all round.

 

[EllenDrawsRapeOfHerHaters]

of course hes happy, wouldnt you be happy if you had such a good result? cis women WISH they had a designer pussy like this

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You didn't mark this as gore, so I absent-mindedly opened it and now my dinner is coming back up. Damn subconscious mind.

 

[Ash's_Chainsaw_Hand]

I think she's a victim as much as any other socially isolated pooner. I'm arguing that her disability is physical, not mental. She's clearly able to use the internet, seeing as she has social media accounts. I've seen people with less physical ability than her use the internet by themselves. Google is but a eye gaze and wink away.

Of course, other people had to shuttle her to and from her appointments that she may or may not have made herself. But ultimately she had to choose to say yes or no to the surgery.

I don't think she should be on testosterone, though (even less than any other pooner). That needs continual consent that she would have difficulty giving or retracting, and has higher peer pressure since she isn't the one who can administer her own shots.

I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just saying that she's capable of consenting.

I read that in some studies, testosterone appeared to affect tone and spasticity in CP so it should be closely monitered. She already had that happen from her stroke. Big difference in her arm control from older posts to now.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Instead we get utter hubris combined with Reddit snark, in a document whose supposed audience is other professionals. "Mount Everest", "10 easy steps", "voila", "bonus round"..

It isn't an academic paper, nor a pamphlet directed at prospective patients. This is surgeons talking shop; it's not going to be markedly different from mechanics after the customer's gone home.

They compartmentalize. The decision to build a rotdog was already made, by the patient and whoever rubber-stamped their Trans Identity. The urologist, well, he's just taking pride in solving practical problems.

(Not an endorsement; this is just how it happens.)

 

[JohnnyG]

It isn't an academic paper, nor a pamphlet directed at prospective patients. This is surgeons talking shop; it's not going to be markedly different from mechanics after the customer's gone home.

But it's a public document, with pictures of actual (though anonymized) patients, and the doctor's licenses and affiliations listed. Most professions have guidelines about keeping things related to that profession professional to avoid situations where your esteemed profession comes across like a retarded Reddit subforum.

Just like how you know your lawyer or accountant throws back a whiskey on the weekend and swaps stories with his buddies, but his licensing body expects him not to make tiktok dances about ghetto clients or cutesy jokes about accounting disasters.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Most professions have guidelines about keeping things related to that profession professional to avoid situations where your esteemed profession comes across like a retarded Reddit subforum.

You're not wrong, but this is where it gets hard to regulate.

It's impossible to cite a doctor for "writing like a Redditor." If he were insulting the pooner patients, cursing, taking inappropriate photos/photos of him doing inappropriate things, screwing around while the patient is anesthetized--those are objectively bad and can be generalized. How is the American Urological Association going to word its letter to say "don't refer to a difficult accomplishment as 'Mount Everest'" without being hyperspecific and allowing the doctor to switch seamlessly to K-2, or without banning all metaphor for all its members? haw, "members"

Think about writing someone up at work or writing a policy. Tone and nuance are really difficult to police.



Galaxy brain take on the cerebral palsy pooner: this is all so "CP" and "transgender" come up with her results on the first page. It's a classic Disney on Ice SEO move.

 

[DefCon Dumb]

okay, I figure most pooners don’t post rot dog photos so what we see is probably a small percentage of total procedures.

Nevertheless, to me that’s a high number of totally unacceptable results and I’m not talking complications; I’m talking about the ones healing normally,

In what world are such massive donkey schlongs considered acceptable for a human ‘male’? Length wise, they’re way out of proportion. The he girth measurements are ridiculous, especially those where girth near the ‘tip’ is larger than near the base.

Have these pooners never seen even photos of normal penises? And I can’t get over any doctor being proud of the results we see here.

As to sexual function… yeah, not going to be easy or comfortable for many women. Don’t know for sure how that all works but if inflating is involved; not terribly fun or spontaneous. It just seems all too much to bother with.

The neovaginas are worse. If I were a guy, even if I could get past the trans aspect, (hell, no!), there’s no proper depth, bad potential issues with hygiene.

Just… no.

 

[Breadbear]

Isn’t it just? That really hit me as well.
@Breadbear im not sure she is. Purely from getting a patient into a trial, which I recognise is not the same as routine treatment, but… Physical disability and communication barriers are an automatic trip to the ‘vulnerable’ category in a trial. Ability to consent depends on the thing being done as well as the person. So the retarded can give consent in some contexts, example would be asking for consent from a downs patient for something minor like talking blood, vs something life changing like sterilisation. The former they’d be deemed able to consent to but the latter v unlikely, simple because they’re unable to understand the ramifications.
If we are assuming her anoxic brain injury was purely her cerebellum, there’s still the stroke and the seizures. And there’s presumably puberty blockers lowering IQ, and there’s the inability to directly communicate and the parents apparently making a living off her which equals vulnerable due to coercion risk.
All these things would make any ethical doctor stop cold. Her being wheelchair bound and unable to do self care means she has an extra layer of dependency post ops. Even if she wants it I don’t think she is capable of consent, and this shouldn’t be done, it’s just horrific.

Ethically... We can't argue that any ftm operations are ethical. There's no ethical reason to lop off a healthy woman's healthy breasts.
If this were any other medical procedure, her setting up a DNR, or even just a tattoo, we'd say she's capable of consent. She's vulnerable, extra care should be taken in her case and most certainly was not, but she is able to understand and say yes or no.
There's also the distinct possibility that she only pushed it this far because she's disabled and this at least gives her a certain body autonomy. She chose this, she looked up the information, found the surgeon, and made these decisions herself.
Again, I don't agree to it, but I don't agree to literally anything we've seen in this thread so far.

I read that in some studies, testosterone appeared to affect tone and spasticity in CP so it should be closely monitered. She already had that happen from her stroke. Big difference in her arm control from older posts to now.

This is very interesting, horrifying, and probably difficult to find information.

 

[Miles Gloriosus]

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TAMMMEEEEEY! Livin’ a Lie!

 

[Dang dirty Pidgeons!]

okay, I figure most pooners don’t post rot dog photos so what we see is probably a small percentage of total procedures.
Nevertheless, to me that’s a high number of totally unacceptable results and I’m not talking complications; I’m talking about the ones healing normally[...]

You are at least kinda new to this, aren't you? Check the internal surgeon's powerpoint - there are (almost) no good outcomes. They say it themselves:

40% URINARY COMPLICATION RATE….
ABOUT 20% FISTULA AND ABOUT 20%
STRICTURE
Historically had a 50% rate, fell over time to 23-35% in contemporarys eries.
However the literature is “silo-ed”, single center, “smallish” numbers

100% MINOR COMPLICATION RATE

• Small dehiscences
• Necrosis of the flap edges of the flap: the areas with the worst blood
supply
• “the Edge Problem”
• Small abscesses
• (late) Asymmetric healing, significant scarring
• And more

If you consider that these complications don't always overlap in one patient,
we are basically looking at a failure rate of this procedure, in one way or another, above 50%.
And even if it "worked", what good is a dangling fleshgraft with no functional purpose and massively scarred harvest sites to begin with?
The source is attached to the quoted post. Thread's moving fast, just on the off chance you missed it.

Historically had a 50% rate

That complication class alone makes this a coin flip, basically.
Way, waaay beyond BBL, which is already dubbed one of the most dangerous cosmetic procedures with the highest death toll.
And on whom are BrazilianButtLifts mostly done? Again, women. Insecure ones with body image issues...