Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[SargonF00t]

Greer can settle this case immediately without financial cost to himself, if he were to send Hardin his best PPP Starfish impersonation.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

No we have to count every cent spent on fighting Ratface as lost. even if Jersh somehow wins all his fees back Melonhead can't pay them. he works a minimum wage job barely. He's got no possessions, no real future income no matter what the retard thinks his future will be so the longer this get dragged out the more money lost. the 200k fund can be spent very fast on stupid shit like this.

TLDR: fuck this judge, fuck Greer and fuck the 10th circuit for wasting so much time and money on an obviously vexatious case, money that's needed for a larger and far more important fight.

 

[Potentially Criminal]

Rusty struck Sean's stream for boolying; did anyone archive it?

It's back

 

[Ted's Cabin]

Knock on wood but I'm glad I'm not getting sued by a retard

 

[Emanems]

I mean...who else can provide any information on this case?

 

[D_Tractor]

I have a question.
First let's assume that Hardin, as a lawyer, has a well paying job where he can live comfortably and regularly socializes with other well off people, and his job requires him to maintain an appearance of decorum and otherwise consumes a good portion of his spare time.
Now why would he be a heavily active moderator on a website that, although does not cover basket weaving, is considered to have a very poor reputation among people outside the site - enough to hinder his line of work if he was discovered to be involved?

Doesn't Hardin live in a van and spends his spare time rescuing rare scary looking breeds of dogs as a hobby?

 

[DHugo]

Doesn't Hardin live in a van and spends his spare time rescuing rare scary looking breeds of dogs as a hobby?

I thought he was agypsy traveling the US and casting curses. Not sure how he makes money but wires disappear where he goes (ghosts???)

 

[Hoverdrive]

Greer won.

 

[Moths]

>The pro se retard has produced 2 witnesses so this case must continue

I don't know how this Null kid stops himself from eating the 12 gauge sometimes jesus christ.

I really thought this was the case ending gambit from the judge but he really just wants to keep beating the internets nigger while russtard slobbers all over court procedure. Keep forcing real attorneys like Hardin to continue to waste time and money dealing with a malicious uncooperative retard who isnt held to any professional standard and fucks around on his calender as he pleases.

also while his filings get denied for despite being years into the case we have zero evidence and 2 witnesses (who by their own admission have nothing to add) and 99% of Rusty's reasoning being harassment. On a case of contributory copyright infringement for a file never hosted on this site that was also accidentally distributed by himself for free on Amazon.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

is the judge slowly plodding through all the motions? I thought the two witnesses thing was already stipulated away later.

 

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Useful was posting play-by-play updates during the scheduling conference in this thread while Hardin was shown live on video stream. He’s not Hardin.

That just shows that Hardin worked out what he would say and what the judge and Greer would do in advance, so he could post it during the stream. He's a hidden mastermind.

 

[DHugo]

Greer won.

Wait WTF

 

[Helvetia]

Wait WTF
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I won




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Sent from my iPhone

 

[waffle]

But that isn't the case, as even the Magistrate has noted. Greer's fraud upon the court in Discovery and with addresses goes further than just that, but the Magistrate neglected to look that far.

My reading of the magistrates order is that he seems to think that the crucial moment is when Russ tries to introduce evidence and we aren't there yet. He's also indicating "money sanctions are going to fix things and make you whole", so I think when there is an order for payment that isn't satisfied he's going to suddenly see things very differently.

I'm convinced the case is getting tossed on discovery sanctions or summary judgment. As much of this judge seems terrified of getting appealed there's no way he's prepared to go through motions in limine and jury instructions with Russ. There is literally no way he answers a summary judgment motion properly, real lawyers fuck that up some times in federal court. And even if he did there is the old "no evidence" issue and the fact that Russ just doesn't have a meritorious claim at the end of the day. It may be a death march to summary judgment but definitely not to trial.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

prepared to go through motions in limine and jury instructions with Russ

Having watched judges try to explain the fifth amendment and even worse, having to instruct on “striking from the record”, there is no way in hell this judge wants to try to babysit Russ to a jury.

Judges know this and watching them go ballistic when a lawyer fucks up and “evidences” something that shouldn’t be known (eg prior convictions) is hilarious.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

My reading of the magistrates order is that he seems to think that the crucial moment is when Russ tries to introduce evidence and we aren't there yet. He's also indicating "money sanctions are going to fix things and make you whole", so I think when there is an order for payment that isn't satisfied he's going to suddenly see things very differently.

I'm convinced the case is getting tossed on discovery sanctions or summary judgment. As much of this judge seems terrified of getting appealed there's no way he's prepared to go through motions in limine and jury instructions with Russ. There is literally no way he answers a summary judgment motion properly, real lawyers fuck that up some times in federal court. And even if he did there is the old "no evidence" issue and the fact that Russ just doesn't have a meritorious claim at the end of the day. It may be a death march to summary judgment but definitely not to trial.

I think it's less that he's afraid to get appealed and more that he knows Russ will 100% start sending infinity appeals, possibly with the help of the copyright troll corpos, if the judge doesn't cross every single t and dot every single i. So right now, based on the things Russhole has claimed but hasn't admitted is bullshit, which the appeals court will take as true, he still has a case. So the case continues until which point the farce proceeds to a point where it falls apart. All while Russhole pityspergs constantly and does every single thing in his power to delay, obfuscate, and attempt to drag it back to the nonexistent torts of "they were mean to me on thee internet and they shouldn't be allowed to talk about me without my permission." Sorry, I mean "defamation."

As someone put it before, this isn't Greer v Moon. It's Judge vs Appeals Court at this point.

It's a lost cause, btw. Russ is 100% absolutely going to appeal, no matter what, and he's going to spam the ever living fuck out of the appeals court with pitysperging. Hopefully they just say lolno and don't just toss it back down to their coworker's desk and say "appeal granted you deal with this shit" like the Florida court did.

 

[Harvey Danger]

My reading of the magistrates order is that he seems to think that the crucial moment is when Russ tries to introduce evidence and we aren't there yet.

Yes, but given what Russ has done over the last year, it's pants-on-head retarded to think Russ could ever get there. He had to be ordered to give a witness list, twice, then within 24 hours told them not to cooperate as witnesses. He repeatedly tells Hardin he has no evidence or documents, then claims he does have some, then claims it's too burdensome to produce them. Oh by the way I outright deleted the docs defense is interested in, and lied about what I need to produce.

This is all killer stuff for the eventual summary judgement motion, but a formal summary judgement shouldn't be needed here. Greer is fucking with the court process itself, and disobeys the court when told told precisely what to do. Case-ending sanctions are warranted in case-fucking situations.

He's also indicating "money sanctions are going to fix things and make you whole", so I think when there is an order for payment that isn't satisfied he's going to suddenly see things very differently.

As someone else pointed out, Russ is filing in forma pauperis. How could the judge possibly expect Josh to be made whole when Russ is whining about $10 printing fees?

I don't believe Russ' failure to pay will make the judge do anything different because what he's trying to achieve is too retarded. He's clearly being disingenuous because he wants his fucking trial, or at least an inescapable summary judgement along the most textbook procession.

 

[victor lasagna]

Federal judges almost never dismiss lawsuits due to discovery violations. That's just a reality, especially against pro se filers. It would be unusual and hence more suspect on appeal. So nothing unusual is happening there and we shouldn't take it as a sign of anything in particular. That part of the motion was always a Hail Mary from Hardin.

Summary judgment, on the other hand, happens everyday. If it really is the case that the plaintiff isn't going to introduce witnesses, present any evidence, or do anything but provide pictures of Hitler sent to him- then its squared up for SJ.

 

[waffle]

possibly with the help of the copyright troll corpos

Russ probably screwed the pooch on getting future help by being so transparently difficult for the DJF guys.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Can the judge dismiss or pause a case based on refusal or inability to pay discovery sanctions?