Law NY Bill Would Require Background Checks to Buy 3D Printers, Attempts to Target Ghost Guns - The bill is in early stages in committee.

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A recently-submitted bill in the New York State assembly would require anyone who buys a 3D printer to undergo a criminal background check which could take up to 15 days to complete. Sponsored by Assemblymember Jenifer Rajkumar, bill A8132 would target any "three-dimensional printer sold in this state, which is capable of printing a firearm, or any components of a firearm" and require retailers in the state to request a criminal history from the state's division of criminal justice services. According to the text of the bill, the commissioner of criminal justice services will have up to 15 days to review the purchaser's criminal history and decide if they can buy the printer.

While the goal of bill A8132 seems to be preventing the manufacture of so-called ghost guns — unregistered firearms made at home — it actually would restrict the sale of pretty much any consumer 3D printer in the state. The firearm enthusiast publication Gun Digest gives the very popular Creality Ender 3 V2 its highest recommendation for firearm printing and it also recommends the Prusa i3 MK3S+. Both of those are bedslinger-style FDM printers so, if you could print a gun with them, you could print a gun with any 3D printer.

The law says "For purposes of this section, 'three-dimensional printer' means a computer or computer-driven machine or device capable of producing a three-dimensional object from a digital model." The word "producing" here is also vague as the best laser cutters can also create 3D objects from digital models.

For better or worse, 3D printing the parts to put together a gun isn't particularly difficult. There are a slew of 3D model files online you can get for free and output in standard filaments such as PLA or ABS. However, guns that can withstand being fired more than a couple of times usually require some metal parts that can't be 3D printed (unless you have a very pricey metal 3D printer).

Bill A8132 is still in committee and may never make it to a floor vote, let alone becoming law. (The bill is currently open to comments.) However, if it was passed as currently written, buying a 3D printer in New York State would be much more difficult, and likely more expensive too. Imagine walking up to the counter at Micro Center with your new Bambu Lab P1S and being told that you have to fill out a form, show ID and wait for your background check to clear. It could drive makers and tinkerers to surrounding states, like New Jersey and Connecticut. According to the text of the law, you could be waiting up to 15 days to find out whether you can take your printer home.

It's also unclear how much these background checks would cost consumers. In New York, gun dealers may charge a fee of up to $10 per transaction for their required background checks.

Bill A8132 isn't the first proposed New York law to target 3D printed guns. Back in May, Assemblymember Linda B. Rosenthal introduced Bill A7489, which makes it illegal to manufacture ghost guns or to distribute the 3D models for them. This bill is still in committee and doesn't restrict the sale of 3D printers. State Senator Brad Hoylman-Sigal introduced the same law in the senate as Bill S7364. Those laws are also backed by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin L. Bragg, Jr., who framed them as part of "comprehensive anti-gun legistlation."
 
would you need a background check to buy or just to own a 3d printer.
you could just drive to new jersey and bring the 3d printer over the border
you could file off the serial number as filing off the serial number of a 3d printer inst a crime. at least not a federal crime
you could buy it in new jersey, file off the number and drive it back into new york.

if you order one online to have it sent to your house, do you have to now submit proof of ID, to buy a fucking 3d printer. once this law passes.
 
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would you need a background check to buy or just to own a 3d printer.
you could just drive to new jersey and bring the 3d printer over the border
you could file off the serial number as filing off the serial number of a 3d printer inst a crime. at least not a federal crime
you could buy it in new jersey, file off the number and drive it back into new york.

if you order one online to have it sent to your house, do you have to now submit proof of ID, to buy a fucking 3d printer. once this law passes.
It will be like buying ammo or magazines online in NY. 3d printers will have to be shipped to an ffl and NY's version of a 4473 will have to be filled out. Expect something like california's customs checkpoints on the American borders that stop and search U.S. citizens for contraband.
 
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Meanwhile, Tyrone and Jamal will sidestep this. In fact, I can see the 3d printing market is gonna explode in NY for the few crazies that still live there.

Buy the stuff in a place outside of NY and sell it there. If you can find someone who won't rip you off.


Funny how this movie became vindicated over time. Both LA and New York are complete shitholes now.
 
Ban gas stoves, ban gas heaters, require background checks for 3D printers and flood the state with migrants....why would anyone live in NY?
"Cause it's the greatest city in the world!" - Someone with a shitty accent and Stockholm Syndrome

its weird that everythign republicans said would happen 10 years ago is constantly happening
I really should find it and archive it/bookmark it; but there's that article where leftists were unable to discern/interpret/anticipate how righties would act, where righties were able to call what the left would do.

At this rate, they'll eventually push for background checks on privately-owned tools. Tool ownership is a sign of being able to DIY things, which is a sign of being independent, which is dangerous to Our Democracy™️.
Not sure how serious/sarcastic you're being, but I could believe it. Do you like cars and know about them; gotta make sure you're not violating the carbon tax code by keeping non-EV's alive and running. Do you have a machine shop and know how to make high tolerance parts; gotta make sure you're not making illegal firearms.
 
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Not sure how serious/sarcastic you're being, but I could believe it. Do you like cars and know about them; gotta make sure you're not violating the carbon tax code by keeping non-EV's alive and running. Do you have a machine shop and know how to make high tolerance parts; gotta make sure you're not making illegal firearms.
I have the Babylon Bee's problem, where my sarcastic remarks eventually come true.
 
If this doesn't work, they'll just ban the raw plastics used in 3d printers.
I wish them best of luck with that, people have been making filament out of PET bottles for a while (and unlike a few years ago, the method has been refined down to having a somewhat decent filament as output), are they going to ban plastic bottles next?
 
@ChromaQuack Don't give em ideas lol. They probably would because "muh enviorment". Biodegradable bottles only.
 
NY DSA: "Seize the means of production!"
Also NY DSA: "No, we didn't mean that means of production!"
 
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The 3d printer boom in New Jersey will be like Silicon Valley 2.0...
The mafia has been wanting to diversify away from cigarette smuggling for a while now...
I really should find it and archive it/bookmark it; but there's that article where leftists were unable to discern/interpret/anticipate how righties would act, where righties were able to call what the left would do.
You mean the series of formal studies on that done by Johnathan Haidt? I'm sure some Kiwi can go find exactly what you're looking for.

Dude tried to figure out morality to help the Dems win elections, but wound up realizing his own presuppositions about moral certainty were incorrect. A rare academic in that he actually didn't dismiss his own conclusions out of hand for being guilty of wrongthink.
 
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The New York legislature is in the early stages of considering a bill that would require people buying certain kinds of 3D printers to pass a background check.

State Assembly Bill A2228 says that “any retailer of a three-dimensional printer sold in this state which is capable of printing a firearm, or any components of a firearm, is required and authorized to request and receive criminal history information.”

The state would then have 15 days to root through the buyer’s information, look for weapons charges or other disqualifying criminal history, and make a decision. This would, in effect, mean that anyone buying a 3D printer capable of printing any piece of a firearm (which is quite a few 3D printers) would have to pass a criminal background check.

We live in a world where anyone with access to some 3D printers, the right digital documents, and some practical knowledge can print and assemble an untraceable handgun. It’s likely that Luigi Mangione, the assassin of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, used a 3D-printed Glock-style handgun to hit his target. Governments across the world have struggled with how to handle the problem of widespread, home-printed, unregistered firearms spreading across the planet on demand.

A2228 is one solution, but I have a hard time imagining Amazon or other online retailers requiring people in NYC to pass a background check to buy a 3D printer online. But stranger things have happened.

Democratic State Sen. Jenifer Rajkumar is the lead sponsor of A2228, which was proposed on January 15 and is still in committee. Rajkumar previously attempted to pass similar legislation in 2023, but it died in committee.

“Three-dimensional printed guns are growing more prevalent each year. There were 100 taken off the streets of New York City in 2019. That number skyrocketed to 637 in 2022. Concurrently, ghost gun shootings have risen 1,000% across the nation. Currently, three-dimensional printers allow people to make, buy, sell, and use untraceable guns without any background checks. This bill will require a background check so that three-dimensional printed firearms do not get in the wrong hands,” Rajkumar said in a memo attached to the 2023 bill.

NY state bills can take comments from the public, which are public on the legislature’s website. “I strongly oppose the proposed legislation requiring background checks for the purchase of 3D printers,” one commenter said. “While I understand the intention to address concerns about the misuse of 3D printing technology, this measure raises significant issues related to overreach, effectiveness, and unintended consequences.”

State laws regulating 3D-printed firearms are all over the place. In California, the state treats them as regular firearms. Meaning that a person needs to be legally allowed to own a gun, that the gun must be “legal” and that it must have a serial number. There are similar laws in Washington, Oregon, Nevada, and outright bans in other states.

To date, there is no federal 3D-printed gun law. The Biden White House passed an executive order aimed at regulating people who sell 3D-printed gun assembly kits. But, like California, Biden’s EO is an attempt to regulate 3D-printed guns as if they were normal guns.

The truth is that anyone 3D-printing a weapon in their home probably wasn’t interested in putting their homebrew gun into federal databases in the first place.
 

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