Jason Thor Hall / PirateSoftware / Maldavius Figtree / DarkSphere Creations / Maldavius / Thorwich / Witness X / @PotatoSec - Incompetent Furry Programmer, Blizzard Nepo Baby, Lies about almost every thing in his life, Industry Shill, Carried by his father, Hate boner against Ross Scott of Accursed Farms, False Flagger

Which will happen first?

  • Jason Hall finishes developing his game

    Votes: 17 0.7%
  • YandereDev finishes developing his game

    Votes: 211 9.1%
  • Grummz finishes developing his game

    Votes: 82 3.5%
  • Chris Roberts finishes developing his game

    Votes: 86 3.7%
  • Cold fusion

    Votes: 929 40.0%
  • The inevitable heat death of the universe

    Votes: 997 42.9%

  • Total voters
    2,322
I've never played animal well, but I decided to look into this puzzle to gain some insight behind why this shows how full of shit this guy is.

there are 8 sets of wingdings messages you can find in the game, an example:

1737219500587.png

each message requires an extremely specific set of tasks to reveal:

The Tamagochi's messageReach the top of the Well with the Animal Flute and use the Top to dig the ground to the right. This leads you to a Tamagotchi pedometer, which you must reach in less than 100 steps. At step count 99, you can unlock a chest containing a message in wingdings. The step count resets after 99,999 steps.
The kangaroo's messageFor the next wingding message, you'll have to get back at the kangaroo that jump scares you at various parts of the map. In the room with the two dog statues, use the code ↖️⬆️↘️⬇️↙️⬇️⬅️⬇️ to reveal a hidden chamber where you can trap the kangaroo. Immediately throw a Firecracker once it gets stuck to scare him off.
The hummingbird's messageNotice how the hummingbird pops all your bubbles? With the upgraded Bubble Wand, however, you can spawn countless bubbles, frustrating the hummingbird to the point that it curses you back in wingdings. The best place to do that is the screen with the four animal statues where the bubble will rise to the screen above that has the hummingbird.
The squirrel's messageThe next wingding code can be obtained by sneaking up on five squirrels in a single run. However, this will likely require a new save as the squirrels easily get startled and will run away.
The lynx's messageYou receive a wingding message from the Lynx if you play a lengthy sequence of melodies without releasing its five kittens from the cages.
The chameleon's messageIf you weren't already aware, the red chameleon only really does eight points of damage when it eats you. If you have one extra heart left, it belches you out along with some wingding curses. To increase your total hearts, you can either eat the purple berries for a temporary boost or drink the groundhog's potion for a permanent increase to your total hearts.
The Speedrunner's messageThis wingding message is by far the hardest to obtain, as you'll have to speedrun the game by acquiring the true ending and reaching the second clock, where you find the message, in under an hour.
Blob's messageObtaining the final message is also not easy. While at full health, you'll have to go around the map eating 100 berries without taking a single hit. To eat the red berries at full health, however, you'll need to press the eat button three times.

finding each of these messages was a community effort. this reddit post details the players who first stumbled upon each message, as well as the player who made the poster map connection:

1737220300487.png
Looking through Discord logs, this was how things were found by the community and the users that initially found them, though people who had access to the game pre-release had already found some of them:

The first found was the pedometer string. I believe the first person to find it post-release was user Crazyblobb, but I'm not entirely sure. The idea that it might be some sort of picture was had just from this, and was further cemented by the future findings, though the idea that it could be a cipher stuck around for a while.

The second found was the bobcat string, with Adam Korinek asking if anyone could transcribe the song so he could try to play it to get the wheel early. LoDef stepped in and transcribed it, Adam played it and got the message.

The third found was the hummingbird string, found by Flan pre-release and disclosed to the larger community immediately after the bobcat string. It was after this that the name "wingdings" stuck, as well as the idea that breaking the game in certain ways might result in more wingdings.

The fourth found was the kangaroo string, found by Tyler Glaiel. It was after this that the idea of "annoying animals" to get future strings became a leading thought.

After this, Plurmorant made the connection with the poster in the house. This essentially killed the idea of the text being a cipher, being replaced with it being some sort of map or potentially another path like the BDTP one.

The fifth found was the speedrun string, found sort of by multiple people. Alittar did the speedrun for it first, but didn't actually notice the wingding his video himself. It was then found by Sj through cheating his game time to zero, resulting in Plurmorant going back to check Alittar's video and finding it there. The conditions for getting the wingdings were not totally known, but later on Stal confirmed that it was sub-60 minutes.

The next thing found was the groundhog day secret, with the idea being had by jake and confirmed by houston. Nobody knew what to do with the extra hearts yet, though...

The sixth found was the squirrel string, found by Flan. The map now had a start point, which Sid pointed out looks like the left edge of the bunny temple. Sid began to try all the few possible paths left, and became the first person to find the time capsule. After this, the search for the last wingdings slowed down slightly, some people even saying that there might not be any more and that "bruteforcing" it was the intended solution.

The seventh found was the chameleon string, by Coreos. It was their first message in the server!

The last found was the fruit string. I don't really know all the details on this one, people had been trying the idea for a while but hadn't known to do it damageless. Datamining found that there was indeed a counter for the number of fruit eaten, and eventually someone did it and got the final wingding. The legitimacy is messy here and I don't really know who to credit.

once all messages are found, there's a poster on the wall in your house that is color coded based on the length of each message, and when the messages are arranged on the poster, a map is revealed:

1737220593673.png

but this is of course simple for big brain mald to discover. not only was he already able to discover 4 out of 8 messages entirely on his own, but he instantly made the connection to map them to the poster in the house:

1737221261416.png

after this discovery, he proceeded to immediately discover two additional messages:

1737221279410.png1737221582285.png

with 6 out of 8 total messages, he puts together an almost completed map:

1737222253578.png

the two messages he's missing are the speedrunner's message and the blob's message, the two messages the guide I referenced noted as the most difficult to obtain. mald knows he can't fake obtaining these on stream, but he has just enough information to conveniently deduce the rest of the map on his own:

1737222636889.png

after this, he uses the map to find a hidden island and uncovers the last secret of the game and the video ends.

so yeah, he's full of shit, and to be quite honest, nobody actually cares if you have to look up a guide for something like this. I totally would, but it's the fact that he presents himself in a way as if he's solving these puzzles and secrets on his own while also making snide remarks during his playthrough like, "people don't know how to play puzzle games these days. I don't understand the idea of looking up the answers to puzzle games" and "in this house, we solve puzzles, and we don't look up the answers."

this guy is so painfully unlikable and a huge faggot.
 
Jason is yet another person that obviously couldn't handle the amount of attention he was getting. Many lolcows can't handle the amount of shit that gets drudged up from their past when they become internet famous and they can't take accountability for anything or just try to ignore it or move past it.

We'll have to see but I fully expect Jason to try to take revenge on his previous guildmates in some way or another.

That or he troons out in the next 5 years.
 
nobody actually cares if you have to look up a guide for something like this. I totally would, but it's the fact that he presents himself in a way as if he's solving these puzzles and secrets on his own while also making snide remarks during his playthrough like, "people don't know how to play puzzle games these days.
If only there was a youtuber who Mald interacted with before who admitted that they needed to use a walkthrough and didn't make a big deal over it. Oh wait.
 
1737229708489.png
only mildly relevant but i absolutely loathe posts like these. the idea that making fun of/talking about someone who does something retarded on the internet is heckin toxic and nasty makes me MATI. reddit is one of the biggest promoters of this take, on basically every mald LSF post you'll have some (usually rightfully downvoted) retards talking about how the community is soooo toxic for posting clips of mald being a retard or for making fun of his narcissistic bragging.
 
View attachment 6872872
only mildly relevant but i absolutely loathe posts like these. the idea that making fun of/talking about someone who does something retarded on the internet is heckin toxic and nasty makes me MATI. reddit is one of the biggest promoters of this take, on basically every mald LSF post you'll have some (usually rightfully downvoted) retards talking about how the community is soooo toxic for posting clips of mald being a retard or for making fun of his narcissistic bragging.
Man this is so retarded, how can they type this and not have the common sense of thinking "huh, maybe there's a reason people hate him from all these spaces he left". Nah, must be the toxic haters!!
 
only mildly relevant but i absolutely loathe posts like these. the idea that making fun of/talking about someone who does something retarded on the internet is heckin toxic and nasty makes me MATI. reddit is one of the biggest promoters of this take, on basically every mald LSF post you'll have some (usually rightfully downvoted) retards talking about how the community is soooo toxic for posting clips of mald being a retard or for making fun of his narcissistic bragging.
I am all for people reforming. Okay, that's normal, that's part of life.
The issue is Maldy does the same shit again and again. Moreover his entire career is build of a lying and being a fraud.
If he were to stfu, finish his game, actually get some credentials, at least as indie gamedev.
I would honestly be impressed, and praise him.

But how can he learn if he is coddled his entire life?
Also, people deserve to be told that they being actively scammed.
 
I still cannot get over how a bad pull lead to him basically going to war with half the internet. Fucking everyone is taking shots at him. What is more funny is that, you have the tranny/leftist side mad at him just for talking to Asmongold. Then you have the people mad at him also for talking to Asmongold because he tried to shield him from the backlash. Each side is trying to say you should hate him for the right reasons. :story: :story: :story:
It is fucking funny to watch.
Mald, you fucked up by boasting the world and getting proven a rube.
 
I've never played animal well, but I decided to look into this puzzle to gain some insight behind why this shows how full of shit this guy is.
Oh 100% he's used a guide. I watched highlights of the long play and the way he just intuitively figures out some things that are meant to be very obscure is beyond suspicious to me.

When people talk about this game they often refer to it as a game with 'layers'. Layer 1 is the base game, most people will complete it and have a great time, layer 2 is the egg hunt and bonus secrets that are doable without insane autism, the deeper you go the more obscure the puzzles get... What the Roach is trying to perform here is the deepest, most obscure and autistic part of the game which has been probably spoiled to anyone who has heard of this game by now. It is worth mentioning that Jason was playing this game months ago when the game was somewhat fresh. so he'll probably consider himself some sort of pioneer for the community...

It is possible he kept close tabs with the community while they were figuring out these and participated alongside it.
IMO his video shouldn't be a display of his own skill at puzzle solving (no matter if it looks like that's what he's trying to do), but more as a highly edited and long form video to showcase the most spoilery parts of the game. He did NOT figure out this stuff on his own, he was following a guide straight up.


I actually played and completed Animal Well up to the 'true' ending (it's a great game btw!) , I didn't engage in the super obscure puzzles like the one displayed in your post because at that point it starts to go into ARG territory and you really had to be solving it with the community at the time to really get the most enjoyment out of it...
Point is, there's puzzles which are meant to be VERY Obscure (eg: rabbit hunt which are post game puzzles usually done after finding all the secret eggs and getting the 'true' ending) these are INSANELY difficult to figure out on your own, but not impossible per say.

The levels of autism some people went and did to figure out all these puzzles and secrets genuinely amazes me. There's puzzles that have you use a barcode reader, there's one that literally commands your printer (if you have one hooked up) to print out an origami puzzle of a rabbit to find the clue on how to complete the puzzle in game.

And all those things mentioned are before you do BDTP (the puzzle displayed in your post). As you say, some of these things were community wide efforts. That was the whole fun of it. The BDTP puzzle involves the player intentionally breaking the game in really obscure ways. It is HIGHLY UNLIKELY someone playing this game blind will even come close to finishing this puzzle without some sort of guide to follow. Hell there's one part where you need to change your computer's clock to groundhog day SEVERAL TIMES to get enough secret bonus hearts to survive being eaten by the chameleon. The way Jason just happens to randomly figure all of this out, even going so far as to know EXACTLY what to do with the extra hearts in order to achieve the desired result, and even states the amount of hearts you need to survive in order to get the wingdings to show up tells me that it's a guide playthrough.
There's nothing wrong with using a guide to cheese a game, even a puzzle game as it's a single player experience and you purchased the game with your money... I would argue it can utterly ruin the experience and spoil the fun for a player. But that's not my problem. And if he had to rely on a guide in order to keep the gameplay going without literally being stuck for days on end, I get that...

But if you just so happen to be a big streamer who's made a career showcasing how talented you are at playing video games, and you happen to already be in hot water by messing up big time in hardcore WoW, and it turns out you've been using a guide and trying to pass it off a community effort as your own... It doesn't look good.

It just irks me a bit that someone would trivialize this great game in front of many while boasting about how he actually figured it out all on his own. Video game stolen valour indeed!
EDIT: Looks like the comments are already calling him out lmao

1737232585415.png
 
Last edited:
He chats like a basement-dweller (and I think he was initially trying to hit on me), so forgive my retard embellishment to keep the mood light and redirect that.
9/4/11, 3:44 PM
Jason Thor Hall: So when I first met you I was all...
7.png
(Archive)
And now getting to know you better im all ...
1737228596423.png
(Archive)
and today I was tired so I was all...
1737228659148.png
(Archive)

Glad to see Jason is keeping the "cubicle crawl" nature of Blizzard alive and well. Imagine dodging neckbeards at work 5 days a week, and then receiving unsolicited and cringe messages during weekends and off-hours. Christ.

Here's some dating advice from our little Casanova:



Jason, working at his dad's company making $10/hour, attempting to flirt with a coworker:
"So when I..."
"I'm all..."
"So I was all..."
"Is it a bad thing that I..."
"I slept so long..."
"I'm going to..."

He's completely incapable of talking about anything but himself. Even in 2011 he was up his own ass.

This drama came at a bad time. I was in the middle of building a 56TB NAS for general archiving purposes. I have his entire YouTube channel archived up until 8/11/24, and I was going to start archiving his Twitch VODs on this new server, but now he's in the process of destroying incriminating and cringe evidence.
1737231819711.png
 
There's puzzles that have you use a barcode reader, there's one that literally commands your printer (if you have one hooked up) to print out an origami puzzle of a rabbit to find the clue on how to obtain it in game.
Hold on a minute, are you telling me that this fucker play acted himself figuring out that he needs to download a barcode scanning app, printing out and presumably folding together an origami rabbit? I need to see this.
 
I am all for people reforming. Okay, that's normal, that's part of life.
The issue is Maldy does the same shit again and again. Moreover his entire career is build of a lying and being a fraud.
If he were to stfu, finish his game, actually get some credentials, at least as indie gamedev.
I honesty don't give a single shit about this. He's irredeemable due to the following point:

He was defending the "games as a service = necessity" narrative, sucking off Blizzard doing mental gymnastics about private servers being a bad thing to implement (pretty much doing corporate PR for Activision). Not a single "gamer", even retarded redditors if they paid some attention, would defend this shit (the microtransaction/subscription takes). I really hope his whole career and reputation gets shredded into pieces, because people like him are a big part why games are shit today (the non-political related parts). Parts of me thinks he was artificialy astroturfed/boosted because he was a public figure that "was hip with the gamers" and could make anti-consumer practices more "accepted" by the public, by "hiding it" as an indie game dev meme. That is unforgivable.

If he gets his life ruined, it should serve as a warning to other indie game developers to not suck off big publishers and defend the games as a service and other shitty business models. He should be a lesson for others to not grift as a "game developers" and push pozzed messages to the public.
 
Last edited:
Hold on a minute, are you telling me that this fucker play acted himself figuring out that he needs to download a barcode scanning app, printing out and presumably folding together an origami rabbit? I need to see this.
Why did you spoiler this
 
I honesty don't give a single shit about this. He's irredeemable due to the following point:

He was defending the "games as a service = necessity" narrative, sucking off Blizzard doing mental gymnastics about private servers being a bad thing to implement (pretty much doing corporate PR for Activision). Not a single "gamer", even retarded redditors if they paid some attention, would defend this shit (the microtransaction/subscription takes). I really hope his whole career and reputation gets shredded into pieces, because people like him are a big part why games are shit today (the non-political related parts). Parts of me thinks he was artificialy astroturfed/boosted because he was a public figure that "was hip with the gamers" and could make anti-consumer practices more "accepted" by the public, by "hiding it" as an indie game dev meme. That is unforgivable.

If he gets his life ruined, it should serve as a warning to other indie game developers to not suck off big publishers and defend the games as a service and other shitty business models. He should be a lesson for others to not grift as a "game developers" and push pozzed messages to the public.
1737233163302.png
 
Back