US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Genuine question with executive orders, barring the fact that I agree with a lot of what Trump’s doing aside is it not a glaring system issue that a President can essentially rewind a lot of what the last guy did?
Like, it’s good now but you never know what’s up a few years down the line.
Because of how gay the legislature is where they just stonewall depending on the party, a lot of stuff these days is done by executive order through the president. This means unless it gets put into law, it can be reversed or continued by the next president. Trump used a lot of EOs to get things done, Joepedo reversed them, Trump put them back just now.

This is why having control of both house and senate is important, and even more so to have good non RINO GOPe faggots. And this time it looks like they are in line.
 
You forgot one of the most important factors for the decision for tariffs/autarchy: jobs. Which will in turn generate tax revenue and support the local economy. And if the german economy suffers for it, due to the retarded and corrupt decisions (lobbyism), then let it be so.

I'm done with the current state of affairs in our country and I'm rather willing to suffer financially for a few years, instead of getting more and more rights taken away from me and having to play pretend for freakish pedophiles in dresses and being told that everything will be alright from incompetent, despotic retards.
Fuck it. Accelerate until the last citizen of this shithole will realize how bad things truly are.

The US is doing the right thing.
I may be misinformed on the facts, so please correct me if I am wrong, okay?
What precisely is the issue with jobs?
If being located in America means opening up jobs for America, the person making the argument presupposes that a substantial number of American workers are not able to find jobs. I have yet to encounter data, statistics, news reports, or op eds claiming such. Rather, I have seen the opposite, companies failing to find employees. (well, duh, a "failure to find employees" is nothing more than a "failure to find employees at XYZ wage and working conditions")
Plus, through the consequences of tariffs, any gains that workers could get from new jobs are likely to be erased by the higher prices that the tariffs cause. A tariff is a net loss to the country that implements it. Tariffs reduce the American level of wages.
To quote Henry Hazlitt:
There is here no net gain to industry as a whole. But as a result of the artificial barrier erected against foreign goods, American labor, capital and land are deflected from what they can do more efficiently to what they do less efficiently. Therefore, as a result of the tariff wall, the average productivity of American labor and capital is reduced. If we look at it now from the consumer’s point of view, we find that he can buy less with his money. Because he has to pay more for sweaters and other protected goods, he can buy less of everything else. The general purchasing power of his income has therefore been reduced. Whether the net effect of the tariff is to lower money wages or to raise money prices will depend upon the monetary policies that are followed. But what is clear is that the tariff—though it may increase wages above what they would have been in the protected industries— must on net balance, when all occupations are considered, reduce real wages.​
Only minds corrupted by generations of misleading propaganda can regard this conclusion as paradoxical. What other result could we expect from a policy of deliberately using our resources of capital and manpower in less efficient ways than we know how to use them? What other result could we expect from deliberately erecting artificial obstacles to trade and transportation?​
For the erection of tariff walls has the same effect as the erection of real walls. It is significant that the protectionists habitually use the language of warfare. They talk of ‘repelling an invasion’ of foreign products. And the means they suggest in the fiscal field are like those of the battlefield. The tariff barriers that are put up to repel this invasion are like the tank traps, trenches, and barbed-wire entanglements created to repel or slow down attempted invasion by a foreign army.​
 
What tariffs do is grant a quasi monopoly and, generally, a monopoly price on domestic firms.
Let's make things more tangible and say that the item in question is... toothbrushes. Let's say a toothbrush costs $10 to sell in the US, but a toothbrush made abroad and shipped to the US costs $8, okay? I'm thinking of toothbrushs as an example because they don't really have substitutes.
So, what tariffs do is injure the consumers within the toothbrush business, who are prevented from purchasing from more efficient competitors at a lower price. Also injured are the more efficient foreign firms and the consumers of all areas, who are deprived of the advantages of geographic specialization.
In a free market, what would happen is that the best resources will tend to be allocated to their most value-productive locations. For instance, you wouldn't produce oranges in Antarctica. Blocking interregional trade will force factors to obtain lower remuneration at less efficient and less value-productive tasks.
You are completely ignoring any kind of externalities that might exist. If the "more efficient foreign firms" are more efficient because they aren't subject to environmental regulations that exist in the US then it's not a good comparison. In this example if there was a 25% tariff to bring the foreign toothbrush to $10 it's effectively pricing in externalities (like microplastics in our toothbrush example).

Further a tariff is only an upper limit on domestic firms inefficiency not carte blanche. In your toothbrush example if are foreign firms that can dump waste and make an $8 toothbrush, efficient domestic firms could make the same thing for $10 and comply with environmental regs, but there are inefficient domestic firms that can only sell toothbrushes for 12$ those would still be noncompetitive.

And lest you say "well who cares? I get cheaper products and dirty foreigners pollute their country. win-win!" you must remember pollution is only sort of local. Accumulation of microplastic in the ocean into food you eat doesn't have a nationality.

It is logically necessary and inevitable that consumers are being exploited by tariffs. Every attempt to debunk or disprove this is futile.
This is just a conclusitory statement.

To prove to doubters that pro-tariff arguments are absurd, let's carry the idea of a tariff to its logical conclusion - interpersonal tariffs.
And this is absurd and not worth continuing with your post. "We should put tariffs on solar panels from china because they are subsidizing manufacturing and dumping below-cost panels on the market (and we don't want all our solar firms to close)." in no way implies there should be a government tariff between me and one of my friends.
 
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