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What are the UAP?

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Threads on Barber's background:
Jake Barber’s military background is being misleadingly exaggerated
Jacob Gary Barber's FAA Airmen Certificates
Can any military personnel explain what it is these people are questioning about Barber’s service claims?

For it to add up, he needs to have been in a "cover job".

Greer's Commentary on...the EGG 🥚
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Chris Bledsoe’s response to the egg UFO
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US Air Force Vet Shane Frakes: I am a psionic asset and can confirm that humans possess the ability to interface with certain UAP phenomena. Our government has long been aware of this connection and has utilized individuals with such abilities in various psionic exploitation programs.
https://x.com/OldVetSymposium/status/1881318856649798125 (archive) (ghost)

In looking at the previous tweet I found this Gary McKinnon (I hope) one:
Hello everyone, I hope you're doing well. I’m organizing a Space here on X , a long awaited event to discuss UAPs/UFOs and bring together the best minds in the field. If you have solid credentials feel free to contact my email :) savegm@proton.me
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Ross’s email to me in 2021 (archive)

Imagery analyst Billy Kryzak shares egg UFO images sent to him: “These are from the RAW files and they show zero evidence of tampering. An example of pristine images.”

A proposed experiment, "Definitive Proof": summoning/calling UFOs during Trump's inauguration by the Reddit community (archive)
 
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Do you think that Scientology is that prevalent, where it would be deeply involved with the US intelligence community, or at least a faction within CIA/DOD, etc? Forgive my ignorance. I haven't paid much attention to that cult, I know a lot of celebrities are involved but I always thought they were pretty niche. Very interesting.
The Scientologists learned to hide their power level so it's hard to say.

I think that with how prevalent Gateway SPECIFICALLY is being referenced, and the fact that people like Lue are using clear Scientologist harassment tactics and referencing remote viewing, and their mastery over news media, social media, and going viral through algorithmic manipulation is central to their strategy, it is a safe bet that yes:

Scientology is deeply involved in the US intelligence community.

And that extends to people like Garry Nolan and Kit who were contacted by the CIA to investigate Nimitz and do general brain scans and blood tests on people who had contact with UAP.

There were podcasts Nolan did that I did not archive unfortunately where he talked to what I call the whispy faggot type. They are faggots who believe they have psychic powers (I've met a lot of them, one thought that he had the spirit of a grandma in him), and they were the kind that were very clearly Garry Nolan's type (clean shaven, tight muscles, tight shirt, young, soft hearted, always sporting the little hair beak). Garry Nolan was fully bought into this whispy faggots spirit medium bullshit and was totally entranced by what was clearly his type.

I don't fully know what is going on yet, but it is increasingly clear to me that Scientologists are involved at a substantial level.

It's one thing to reference Gateway.

It's another entirely to say that it works, and then NOT FUCKING SHOW US.

That is a step far beyond even just saying I saw something I can't explain and not showing footage.

That is outright predatory.

They want to recruit people into their cult.

I'm not saying UAP aren't real. I don't know what is going on. But I know for a fact that this Gateway shit is a major red flag and referencing Gateway and saying that it works with zero evidence changes the entire nature of this fundamentally.

Something predatory is happening.
 
Scientology is deeply involved in the US intelligence community.
Your last few posts contain the first inkling of this that I've heard regarding UFOers. Just want to clarify: are you talking literally about Scientology, or figuratively? I don't doubt for a second that Scientology is rife in high places, but I always thought CE5 and whatnot to be something separate, whilst not too dissimilar.
 
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Do you think that Scientology is that prevalent, where it would be deeply involved with the US intelligence community, or at least a faction within CIA/DOD, etc? Forgive my ignorance. I haven't paid much attention to that cult, I know a lot of celebrities are involved but I always thought they were pretty niche. Very interesting.

On a similar note, I've concluded that pretty much everything that is being pushed recently (post Lue Elizondo) is bullshit. The observables are real and based mostly on accurate witness accounts and declassified material, and hopefully, some of the actual Harvard research being done is. Everything else including the most recent hearings with Grusch, NewsNation, and everyone else pushing ideas about "crash retrieval", "confirmed non-human craft" and "religious gateway process esc" stuff is either misinformed or has an agenda they're trying to push, whether it be to discredit the real research into UAP or to promote specific religious ideas.
Remember, a companies #1 goal is to make money, not to provide a service. Grifters and media are just here to do that.
 
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Ask a Pol (Matt Laslo): That time a NY Post writer libeled Ask a Pol publicly while privately subscribing for UAP updates (archive) (Reddit)
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We were pleasantly surprised that within an hour of sending this letter, a NY Post editor called and apologized.

A couple hours later, the other senior Post editor called, repeated the heartfelt apology on Greenstreet’s behalf. But his bosses promised they took the issue seriously and promised they were going to have a talk with Greenstreet about journalism ethics.

While we never expected an apology from Steven himself, it recently came to our attention that his reaction to our letter was to simply block us on social media.* So we just want to warn folks that Greenstreet brazenly lies.

Unlike his bosses who impressed us with their professionalism and standards, as far as we can tell — he did block us, after all — Greenstreet remains unapologetic for deceiving his audience (let alone our audience...) about how he leans on Ask a Pol for original UAP news from Washington.

[Letter PDF is attached]

First Sol Foundation video from the November 2024 symposium is out:


 

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RedpandaKoala uncovered the true origin of it, I archived his video on Lue in the thread which references to it.

It basically all stemmed from Scientologists. Scientologists basically birthed it all. All of this shit is Scientology. Ross has effectively bought into Scientology.

These people, NewsNation, Gary Nolan too I think now, are pushing Scientology onto the masses.

That is what is happening right now. I was honestly kind of shell shocked yesterday and it didn't really sink in until now.

There is literally a god that these people believe in.

I stopped writing about it because I was fucking sick of it but this shit keeps popping up like herpes so I may return to the subject soon and explain precisely what they believe.

They believe there is a Electromagnetic god in between what they believe is a torus shaped universe and that they are connecting to what is basically a giant electromagnetic tube. They think that they are talking to this electromagnetic tube which through the process of the torus examines each individual particle in the universe and then recycles it anew eternally.

They believe that they can live eternally within this electromagnetic tube that is their god.

That is what these CIA niggers believe in and they are literally pushing this shit onto the Zoomers.

People like Matt Ford are pushing this Scientology shit onto everyone.
 
Just want to clarify: are you talking literally about Scientology, or figuratively?
Scientologists laid the foundation.

There may be offshoots now or seperate sects, but the foundation was by Scientologists.

When i'm talking about people like Ford or Lue, i'm saying I think they are literally in the church of Scientology and are hiding it.

When i'm talking about people like Ross or Nolan, I think they are following a separate sect and don't realize the foundation is Scientology.
 
Scientologists laid the foundation.

There may be offshoots now or seperate sects, but the foundation was by Scientologists.

When i'm talking about people like Ford or Lue, i'm saying I think they are literally in the church of Scientology and are hiding it.

When i'm talking about people like Ross or Nolan, I think they are following a separate sect and don't realize the foundation is Scientology.
I see. Thank you for the concise answer, I can see how that works.

Gotta say, I was pretty surprised to see Nolan, and even Coulthart, into the CE5/Greer stuff. In hindsight it shouldn't be so surprising though, they talk about psi* stuff quite a bit.
 
I see. Thank you for the concise answer, I can see how that works.

Gotta say, I was pretty surprised to see Nolan, and even Coulthart, into the CE5/Greer stuff. In hindsight it shouldn't be so surprising though, they talk about psi* stuff quite a bit.
Ross Coulthart dropped the one word "Psionic" in an April 2024 AmA, and then in an August 2024 AmA said "I am aware of a secret USAF program that is probably still operational where children with supposed psionic abilities are being tracked and trained."

I think Scientology is fuke's gay paranoia, but it would be very funny if they have infected the UAPTF circlejerk.
 
i think this is a very unusual situation
before now it has been fringe radio shows, or YouTube channels, nothing so official as a news channel
when NewsNation became THE UFO people they cornered the market, made it look real official even though their numbers were dogshit
they sunk serious money into the production of these specials, of which there have been many

but now they have turned around and have started steering UFO lore, and towards the woo
this is more than just a small bait'n'switch
nuts and bolts VS woo has been a divisive topic ever since Vilee, and NewsNation just took a massive shit on that and said "no the woo is real, look at his credentials"
madness

but its okay guys, James Fox has the next meal cookin' for ya!
the real surprise is the comments though, ooof... people are NOT ready for next sequel of "Coming Soon" :story:
on the real though, i wont gauge any tune-changes until a few weeks have passed
the UFO crowd have ridiculously short memories, so only time will tell if Ross and NewsNations fuckup will have lasting consequences, but i highly doubt it
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So what happened. Did the CIA glowniggers get to News Nation or are they so desperate for views they ran with an absolute schizo with nothing to back up his claims?
I was talking with a buddy about this, and to push "psionics" is absolutely batshit insane. Your average normie might accept the idea there are UAP. They might even accept remote viewing given the context the CIA worked on it. Purporting to control ayy lmao craft with your mind would be a bridge too far for just about anyone without any evidence.
The cherry on top of this shitpile is a short ass video that could be anything. It's like this was intentionally done to knock the wind out of the sails of the disclosure movement.
 
So what happened. Did the CIA glowniggers get to News Nation or are they so desperate for views they ran with an absolute schizo with nothing to back up his claims?
I was talking with a buddy about this, and to push "psionics" is absolutely batshit insane. Your average normie might accept the idea there are UAP. They might even accept remote viewing given the context the CIA worked on it. Purporting to control ayy lmao craft with your mind would be a bridge too far for just about anyone without any evidence.
The cherry on top of this shitpile is a short ass video that could be anything. It's like this was intentionally done to knock the wind out of the sails of the disclosure movement.
This is the crescendo of ontological shock. IT'S ALL REAL!

Is Jacob Barber Lying About Being a Combat Controller? A Deep Dive into His Military Records (archive)
 
So what happened. Did the CIA glowniggers get to News Nation or are they so desperate for views they ran with an absolute schizo with nothing to back up his claims?
NewsNation have been grifting from the start, one of the few times CIA would just have to sit back and let the job be done for them

every other news station asked Grusch, Elizondo, Corbel, all of them for proof or evidence, which they didnt have, before printing any sensational stories
NN need numbers more than anything, nobody knows who they are, so they dont ask questions and will print dubious stories and spread dubious videos without a care in the world
it looks like this Jake guy knows everybody, hes connected with all the usual suspects, so my guess is this is common enough opinion behind the scenes that NN thought this was just the way the wind was blowing
i had noticed that the woo was strong amongst the new UFO talking heads but i had no idea how much they were hiding their power level
lol i think mods keep removing this post, because i have seen this same post like 4 times now :story:
 
Barber apparently posted this on his Twitter, then baleeted it:

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Shortly afterward, he posted this, removing references to the confusion after the original piece and the new era that we are entering:

https://x.com/jakebarber2025
@jakebarber2025


Hello – I am pleased to announce that News Nation has agreed to release my full 2 hour and 30 minute interview. This will be released within days. I look forward to everyone having an opportunity to hear me speak fully, naturally, and at length on all the topics covered in the primetime piece and more. The full interviews of Don Paul, Fred Baker, and Dr. Blitch will also be released. There is a lot to hear in these full interviews… Lastly, I look forward to responding to as many good faith questions and comments as I can once these full interviews have been shared.

11:50 PM · Jan 20, 2025


If you have any good faith questions, you should ask them. But only good faith questions. None of you skeptics or deboonkers!
 
Shortly afterward, he posted this, removing references to the confusion after the original piece and the new era that we are entering:

Something tells me this could be one of those situations where more context (added by the remaining hours of interview) does not help your case.

If I'm not mistaken, we have never seen Grusch's similar length full sit-down interview. There were some extra quotes pulled out after the PTSD fiasco, and maybe some more later. Same with Elizondo. The tidbit I remember them adding to the record later was that he was working for Space Force with Grusch.
 
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More on Barber's helicopter company, Royal Helicopter Services LLC. He DFE'ed everything he could, but archive.org captured a lot of it over the years. Starting with his Instagram:

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Luxury Helicopter Service. Transport/Access/Adventure. Your helicopter awaits 559-786-0095 web.archive.org/web/20160204234327/http://www.royalhelicopter.com
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I ran the phone number through whitepages.com, and it's a match for Jake:
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Archive.org didn't save the Instagram pictures, but I reproduce the descriptions below. I included all the typographical errors (and probably added some), but omitted most of the hashtags because I'd be up all night trying to type them. It might be noteworthy that he used the hashtag #blackhelicopter a lot. I think he might have been going for a "black car" mystique, but it has obvious connections to both UFO lore and special operations aviation. He also tagged some of his customers, who might have photographs of their helicopter rides with Jake on their own social media.

Paso wine hop/tour day.

Aaron Tyler Johnson Ridding Royal

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Fire Season in full bloom

Repost #gregory_moore_photography

@traviscrawford1975 Why drive to lunch on a Thursday when you can fly there with an old friend?

Passenger view from the front seat of a Bell 206 with Royal Helicopter

Royal Helicopter Mountain Views

Royal Helicopter Seirra Mountain Adventure from $499 per person

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Weekend Mountain Escapes from $499 per person

Electric Daisy Carnival helicopter service

Royal Escape - Headed to June Lake this week for remote fishing and sleeping under the stars.

Malibu Sunset Tour ..with Free Uber shuttle to/from any where in LA to your helicopter. $499 per person.

Royal Transportation for 6

You Helicopter awaits..Santa Monica to San Diego in 20mim

A109 Royal Transportation provided by Royal Helicopter. Any where in Southern California.

Mountain Adventure provided by Royal Helicopter Services

#Repost @italiankingnicky

#Repost @nicoleisaacs Helicopter ride [helicopter emoji] to see more check my snap chat nicole_isaacs

Your Black Horse Awaits Anywhere in Los Angeles

Royal Transport by Royal Helicopter @luxuryworldtraveler @nicoleisaacs

Royal Transport by Royal Helicotper #RideRoyal @shellysho @luxuryworldtraveler

#Repost @syrianrpinny Anyone else sick of waiting in traffic ? [winking emoji][helicopter emoji][gust of air emoji]


The web site was pretty bare bones, just a landing page that cycles through stock photos, but I captured what there is below.

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The email link goes to royalhelicopter1@gmail.com.
 
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now im wondering how much woo they cut from the interview
im actually pretty excited for the full thing

i saw in my recommends that Jason Sands did an interview on a pretty popular podcast 3 days ago so i checked the comments and man i might have to watch this in full!
it SEEMS like Jason tried to say some wild and crazy shit and James Fox stopped him
first pic gave some context
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this comment told me where to look
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this conversation starts at 2:27:00, it is a quick listen dont worry
interesting thing to note is as Jason is talking you can see James motioning for him to stop, mf'er how the fuck did i miss this drama?! this is great
at timestamp 2:28:36 James interrupts the host asking Jason about the story where Jason kills an alien :bossman: and James looks angry, interupts and says-
"i dont feel comfortable talking about this, because it is a credibility destroyer in my opinion, and it really bothers me that you talk about it and i dont want to be connected to it in any way. and i have told him, that if youre going to make those claims, im walking out the door. im sorry... its already bad enough." (lmfao)
then after a few murmurs-
"im just saying i dont feel comfortable talking about it, its horrible that it even happened, and i have explained to him that if you are trying to discredit your entire "everything" then continue on that path-"
and then the host shuts it down and they change topic
 
Redpanda's accounts got nuked:
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I fucking knew that was going to happen.

I've got most of his stuff backed up in the thread so we're okay but that is a big loss if he can't come back. I fucking knew backing that shit up would be a good idea.

ARCHIVE EVERYTHING.


The reason why I was looking was because I found the video of the Wispy Faggot I was talking about, i've got it archived. I'm going to try to do a deep dive into this because if I don't explain this i'm going to sound insane but this really is a thing:
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Garry Nolan is a faggot and I know exactly what they are doing and how they are manipulating him with the Wispy Faggot. I'm very good at reading people and I can tell exactly what these Wispy Faggots are doing and I will demonstrate it clearly.

It is always in the eyes.

I also have backups of Pandas streams where he exposed Lue and i'll try to get to that too to help explain precisely why the Scientologists are involved. I suspect those two streams are why his channel got pulled.

I'm not letting these Scientologists and Wispy Faggots brainwash America.
 
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