US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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>runs to "fight the man"
>gets elected
>shoots self in the head
>victory declared


Just stop it.
Look I voted for Trump and I’m glad he won. But take a look at his donor list and tell me with a straight face that doesn’t mean anything. Autistic retard who only wants cheap labor and Sheldon Adelson’s wife. Trump just said today that we need more sommeliers and waiters imported. And let’s not forget the big flip flop on H-1B that Trump did.
 
Regardless of the truism, they believe that what "really" needs to happen is essentially engineer a Weimar Crisis. They want to see things basically entirely come apart at the seams, with politically-motivated murders, hyperinflation, material and living conditions dropping year-over-year. Their mindset, assuming a certain amount of charitability, is basically eschatological in nature. They are, like how Evangelist Protestants want to create the conditions for Jesus to come back, wanting the conditions in order to bring Hitler back.
Yeah, I think your theory of mind may check out (assuming there aren't simply more mundane corrupt motives for the grift); just helping flesh out your explanation of how wrong they are about all this.
 
Trump specifically passed down orders that groypers in general and Fuentes in particular were not to be given the time of day by his campaign. Trump has no use for Fuentes and his gaggle of faggot friends. This essentially destroyed any hope Fuentes had of relevance.
Imagine being Fuentes, the self proclaimed Hitler and leader of the white race, and having the balls to tell President Trump to step aside and to endorse a black guy then getting butthurt when you are told to fuck off and die.
 
White Liberals in South Africa still exist btw. You could have Haiti esque “kill White people on sight” conditions and without organization, or people moralized to victory-you just die.

Defeat and decline don’t magically produce 180 changes in political consciousness or will.
 
Blackpillers are retarded because politics is totally unpredictable. Short term gain can result in long term failure. Long term success may require short term failure. If politics was as easy as they pretend it is we would be in utopia right now.

In universe B it's possible Trump pardoned J6ers and loses all political capital and is never seen again. I'm not justifying his original inaction, I'm just saying you can't treat politics like a math question that's easily solvable.
 
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>Majority of voters voted for him. Giving him an undisputed democratic majority win.
>He kept up with the promises on the very first days of his presidency.

And yet, democrat voters keep calling him a fascist dictator that needs to be stopped at all cost.
If you are a democrat, you are a joke.
 
> Trump won’t pardon the J6ers
> *Trump pardons them*
> W-well Trump won’t pardon Ross!
> *Trump pardons him*
> Nothing ever happens! Trump won’t be able to fire the corrupt Feds!
> *Trump fires a shit ton of people*
> I-it will all be reversed in four years! America is doomed!
<- you are here
Can't stop winning. It's just too much. All the doubt are gone. Vivek Jeet is also gone.

We are winning bros.
 
White Liberals in South Africa still exist btw. You could have Haiti esque “kill White people on sight” conditions and without organization, or people moralized to victory-you just die.

Defeat and decline don’t magically produce 180 changes in political consciousness or will.
Are those the ones handing out, "PLEASE DON'T KILL ME! I'M NOT THE BOER!" t-shirts to the white people?
 
Wait the notion of ”gotta black pills to fuel a revelation” is the exact mentality that leftists believe. God I can’t believe I used to like the faggot nick, feel free to call me retarteded for ever liking him.
If you only ever consumed the clips that are posted of him strategically by his ballwashers on Twitter and had no context except that, it is understandable that some people think he's alright. But once you understand his underlying messaging, it's hard to see him as anything other than a weak-minded fool and a traitor.
Trump specifically passed down orders that groypers in general and Fuentes in particular were not to be given the time of day by his campaign. Trump has no use for Fuentes and his gaggle of faggot friends. This essentially destroyed any hope Fuentes had of relevance.
Every single successful revolutionary terrorist/insurrectionist group in history has operated together with a "legitimate" political wing. Most (in)famous of these probably being Sinn Fein and the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party. Are these people working on laying the groundwork for building up the organisational necessities for such an organisation (according to their own preferences/aims)? Oh wait, they don't.
See the above quotation. Nick's intention was that America First would become the "bulwark"/"youth wing" of the Republican Party. The IRA to the Sinn Fein, or probably the SA to the NSDAP in his mind. He was trying decently hard to make himself seem legitimate in the early years, but he basically torched it all by being a massive unlikable faggot that burns every person that gets close to him. Trump wanted nothing to do with him because he, rightly, assumed that he could reach that youth anyway without Nick as the surrogate. He has no need for Nick. Barron Trump did more for the 18-28 demographic of young men than Nick the Spic ever did.
Yeah, Eric Striker is extremely vague about his actual political objectives, it seems to be “the Jewmerican empire will collapse and…White people(in Europe if not America) will rise up…presumably”. It’s basically just an apocalyptic fantasy. Complete defeatism. American Whites are just totally lost anyway to miscegenation(if that’s the case why comment at all?), but well maybe Europe will be saved once…uh America goes down somehow.

There’s nothing there.
Like I said it's all pretty much downstream of Jews. They believe, rightly or wrongly, that the Jews are the epicenter of the Polycrisis that we have found ourselves in. They believe that if you remove the Jews from the equation, everything will just sort itself out. But they believe the only way to get Americans to "wake up" against the Jews is to engineer a Weimar Crisis that mimics the 1920s of Germany, in order to facilitate the "New Hitler" who will lead the White Man to victory.

This isn't Leftism. This is O9A Satanic Faggotry. Look into the thread on Atomwaffen and the O9A here. You'll see that these guys are basically saying a distilled "normie-friendly" version of what they want. Accelerationism straight into the abyss with the hope that things get so bad, Whites just fucking snap and Hitler arises and everyone who doesn't pass the paper-bag test and whoever wears a yarmulke gets tossed in an incinerator.
Devon Stack was asked what he considered the difference between “a trick used to placate or containment” and “genuine political progress”-he quite notably demurred and did not give a clear answer.

Fuentes and others much the same. Beyond something like “the US will become a trad catholic monarchy” or “the republicans will become an ethnonationalist party”-again non starters or charitably things that would require generations to reach.
Because they don't actually believe that this is possible. They are not thinking about "What comes after?" They are more concerned, mentally, with the "state of radicalization" and the "radical chaos" part of the equation. The "what comes after" is, in their minds, not relevant, because ultimately what they want (acceleration towards mass murder and death of their enemies) gets achieved in the end state.

I think a lot of why people like Devon refuse to really give a straight answer on that isn't just because of the above, but because they don't want to be screencapped or clipped and shown a clip when they are wrong about their predictions. They are deathly afraid of being "wrong" more than anything.
Even more hilarious-that William Luther Pierce believed in actual organizing and doing real things. In the Turner Diaries, White people don’t spontaneously “rise up” even in conditions where they are more explicitly facing more persecution and economic decline. They give up.
Agreed.
That is, as you say if they aren’t an op. Demoralization is something leftists and Feds(and within that circle Jews both), understand to be very effective and powerful.

But it’s just galling to me that these people have nothing to offer except “the Jews are gods on earth and you should just hope maybe one day, their empire will collapse(not by you), and Europa will rise again”.

If you wanted to demoralize young men into passivity and resignation, you could not do a better job than a message like that.
Agreed, but I think a lot of their rhetoric shares commonalities with O9A, who are known infiltrators into Right Wing spaces and have ties with the Leftist/Niggerfaggot Clique of the Government. Acceleration towards chaos and mass death is the goal.
 
I have seen more in 24 hours than I ever thought I would see in four years.
He is literally at Level 100. Nobody can stop him. Trump is unleashing the fucking Matrix of Leadership and destroying the Swamp.
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No more hostages.

No more lies.

No more tyrants.

Just freedom. The best freedom. Simply the best.
 
You think Zelensky's sweating? We're about to find out exactly why all of the Bidens were pardoned.
I just had an idea. If what the bidens were up to in Ukraine was criminal wouldn't they have also comitted a crime in Ukraine? If Zelensky spills the deets and we extradite the bidens to get the coach dead pill treatment I'd be fine with Ukraine getting a few billion more bucks.

Live by the slavic corruption, die by the slavic corruption.
 
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