Wait the notion of ”gotta black pills to fuel a revelation” is the exact mentality that leftists believe. God I can’t believe I used to like the faggot nick, feel free to call me retarteded for ever liking him.
If you only ever consumed the clips that are posted of him strategically by his ballwashers on Twitter and had no context except that, it is understandable that some people think he's alright. But once you understand his underlying messaging, it's hard to see him as anything other than a weak-minded fool and a traitor.
Trump specifically passed down orders that groypers in general and Fuentes in particular were not to be given the time of day by his campaign. Trump has no use for Fuentes and his gaggle of faggot friends. This essentially destroyed any hope Fuentes had of relevance.
Every single successful revolutionary terrorist/insurrectionist group in history has operated together with a "legitimate" political wing. Most (in)famous of these probably being Sinn Fein and the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party. Are these people working on laying the groundwork for building up the organisational necessities for such an organisation (according to their own preferences/aims)? Oh wait, they don't.
See the above quotation. Nick's intention was that America First would become the "bulwark"/"youth wing" of the Republican Party. The IRA to the Sinn Fein, or probably the SA to the NSDAP in his mind. He was trying decently hard to make himself seem legitimate in the early years, but he basically torched it all by being a massive unlikable faggot that burns every person that gets close to him. Trump wanted nothing to do with him because he, rightly, assumed that he could reach that youth anyway without Nick as the surrogate. He has no need for Nick. Barron Trump did more for the 18-28 demographic of young men than Nick the Spic ever did.
Yeah, Eric Striker is extremely vague about his actual political objectives, it seems to be “the Jewmerican empire will collapse and…White people(in Europe if not America) will rise up…presumably”. It’s basically just an apocalyptic fantasy. Complete defeatism. American Whites are just totally lost anyway to miscegenation(if that’s the case why comment at all?), but well maybe Europe will be saved once…uh America goes down somehow.
There’s nothing there.
Like I said it's all pretty much downstream of Jews. They believe, rightly or wrongly, that the Jews are the epicenter of the Polycrisis that we have found ourselves in. They believe that if you remove the Jews from the equation, everything will just sort itself out. But they believe the only way to get Americans to "wake up" against the Jews is to engineer a Weimar Crisis that mimics the 1920s of Germany, in order to facilitate the "New Hitler" who will lead the White Man to victory.
This isn't Leftism. This is O9A Satanic Faggotry. Look into the thread on Atomwaffen and the O9A here. You'll see that these guys are basically saying a distilled "normie-friendly" version of what they want. Accelerationism straight into the abyss with the hope that things get so bad, Whites just fucking snap and Hitler arises and everyone who doesn't pass the paper-bag test and whoever wears a yarmulke gets tossed in an incinerator.
Devon Stack was asked what he considered the difference between “a trick used to placate or containment” and “genuine political progress”-he quite notably demurred and did not give a clear answer.
Fuentes and others much the same. Beyond something like “the US will become a trad catholic monarchy” or “the republicans will become an ethnonationalist party”-again non starters or charitably things that would require generations to reach.
Because they don't actually believe that this is possible. They are not thinking about "What comes after?" They are more concerned, mentally, with the "state of radicalization" and the "radical chaos" part of the equation. The "what comes after" is, in their minds, not relevant, because ultimately what they want (acceleration towards mass murder and death of their enemies) gets achieved in the end state.
I think a lot of why people like Devon refuse to really give a straight answer on that isn't just because of the above, but because they don't want to be screencapped or clipped and shown a clip when they are wrong about their predictions. They are deathly afraid of being "wrong" more than anything.
Even more hilarious-that William Luther Pierce believed in actual organizing and doing real things. In the Turner Diaries, White people don’t spontaneously “rise up” even in conditions where they are more explicitly facing more persecution and economic decline. They give up.
Agreed.
That is, as you say if they aren’t an op. Demoralization is something leftists and Feds(and within that circle Jews both), understand to be very effective and powerful.
But it’s just galling to me that these people have nothing to offer except “the Jews are gods on earth and you should just hope maybe one day, their empire will collapse(not by you), and Europa will rise again”.
If you wanted to demoralize young men into passivity and resignation, you could not do a better job than a message like that.
Agreed, but I think a lot of their rhetoric shares commonalities with O9A, who are known infiltrators into Right Wing spaces and have ties with the Leftist/Niggerfaggot Clique of the Government. Acceleration towards chaos and mass death is the goal.