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It also depends on how the right acts. I just see a strong lack of discipline. Musk sieg heiling is such incredibly easy ammo. And for what gain, really?
Of course Vance seems more disciplined, so it's not a done deal, but if I were to put money on it now, I'd say the left wins in 2028
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What are you talking about? Zig heling as AOC calls it is a very common and accepted practice among the left.
 
Because Hitler/Nazis/WWII is our Western creation myth. The New Western World started in 1945 and it's sole purpose is to be as far removed from anything Hitler might have done, said or agreed with. If Hitler breathed air we should strive to not breathe, if Hitler would have wanted Pakistani rape gangs deported we must embrace them all the more fervently. If Nazis valued fitness and athleticism we must glorify sedentary lifestyles and obesity. If Nazis strived for a homogenous, racially pure society we must ensure that ours is diverse and comprised of race mixed mongrels. If Nazis valued excellent we must worship mediocrity.
In that case, we should definitely try to spread knowledge about the weird boner Hitler had for Islam.
 
What are you talking about? Zig heling as AOC calls it is a very common and accepted practice among the left.
This is the kind of disingenuity and lack of discipline that's also going to harm the right in the long run. As I said before, Musk is talking about victory. He isn't just raising his hand as others have done. Compare the video instead of just a still image. It's nothing like these other moments, some of which I've seen.

Right now people are sufficiently sick of all the lies on the left and not really noticing or caring much about the lies on the right, like Fox editing out the sieg heil (if it wasn't a meaningful moment, why edit it out?). But over 4 years these will build up, media will put a spotlight on it and this will put another demonic left wing creature in power. But it will be possible because the right wing is lacking in discipline.
 
Anybody else having their USPS sent mail absolutely fist fucked on late delivery? I have a package sitting in my nearest distro center since the 4th of this month and my local news stations are now running insider scoops on how the entire state's mail is set to be months behind on expected delivery at this point.
I worked for UPS for a few years and we NEVER got this behind. We would often even run USPS and FedEx shit for those guys to help them stay caught up.
Mine did because we got like a foot of snow and ice and the new black zoomer mail man doesn't want to do the walking route in it.

The old white dude that retired a couple years ago still did his route in bad snow.

I didn't get mail for almost two weeks, FedEx was also delayed for over a week. Amazon showed up on time, though.
 
It also depends on how the right acts. I just see a strong lack of discipline. Musk sieg heiling is such incredibly easy ammo. And for what gain, really?
Of course Vance seems more disciplined, so it's not a done deal, but if I were to put money on it now, I'd say the left wins in 2028
Eh, two major factors, one in the Republicans' control and one not:

1. The Left manages to unfuck itself. Unlikely right now, but we also assumed SJWs wouldn't infiltrate Corporate America either. So you can't assume they won't.

2. The Woke Right actually gain cultural power. Annoying, anti-cultural people like Matt Walsh hating on anime and video games repel former "The Left left me" liberals like Musk.

The latter increases the odds of the former. Trump didn't win because of Evangelicals complaining about The Last Descendant or Gacha games, he won because of the Economy, stupid. Meaning that if this coalition shatters along these lines, all that meme and tech industry institutional power leaves with people like Musk, not Shapiro.

The good news is that Trump (and probably Vance) isn't ruling on religious grounds, so as it stands, the Republicans should be fine. The bad news is they are also the party that snatches defeat from the jaws of victory without them, so you can't really know.
 
Who'd be Trump's Dmitry Medvedev?
Hmmm If I were to take a guess the position is open now. Best guess I would say Marco Rubio.
I've heard reports ICE agents are rocking military gear is this true? I can't find any sources on this.
Ever see the movie End of watch ICE has been wearing and wearing militarized gear since they've been founded. They tend to be the big shit kickers for when the crimes are really serious.
The ATF has already been caught trying to not to enforce Trump's EO's specially the DEI one.
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Look please sweet baby Jesus disband the ATF look Trump if you could disband that agency I would be greatful. Those are the fucks who have murdered more dogs and innocent people than the rest of the PDs combined lol.
 
This is the kind of disingenuity and lack of discipline that's also going to harm the right in the long run. As I said before, Musk is talking about victory. He isn't just raising his hand as others have done. Compare the video instead of just a still image. It's nothing like these other moments, some of which I've seen.

Right now people are sufficiently sick of all the lies on the left and not really noticing or caring much about the lies on the right, like Fox editing out the sieg heil (if it wasn't a meaningful moment, why edit it out?). But over 4 years these will build up, media will put a spotlight on it and this will put another demonic left wing creature in power. But it will be possible because the right wing is lacking in discipline.
No serious person actually believes Elon performed a Sieg Heil or even intended to do so. Debating people who claim otherwise is no different from trying to convince schizophrenics that the CIA isn't actually trying to mindcontrol them via the electromagnetic frequency emitted by their smoke detector.
 
the CIA isn't actually trying to mindcontrol them via the electromagnetic frequency emitted by their smoke detector
That's real though, It only works on melinated individuals though. did you think they beeped because they were low on batterys no they're getting their cia assignments. They glow in the dark hit them with your car.
 
No serious person actually believes Elon performed a Sieg Heil or even intended to do so. Debating people who claim otherwise is no different from trying to convince schizophrenics that the CIA isn't actually trying to mindcontrol them via the electromagnetic frequency emitted by their smoke detector.
This is really what I mean. I could see the mental gymnastics to say it wasn't intended, but you even denied that it could be unintentional. You deny that it is a sieg heil. Sieg heil, meaning hail victory. He talks about victory. He does the sieg heil movement. You can deny the intentionality, but you can't deny that's what the movement is. I know I'm selling a cassandra type future prediction that's hard to swallow in the midst of a stunning victory, but you're going to think back to this moment and think of it as the first sign that you're captured by a group think similar as we've been seeing on the left for the last decade.
 
The ATF has already been caught trying to not to enforce Trump's EO's specially the DEI one.
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This is really what I mean. I could see the mental gymnastics to say it wasn't intended, but you even denied that it could be unintentional. You deny that it is a sieg heil. Sieg heil, meaning hail victory. He talks about victory. He does the sieg heil movement. You can deny the intentionality, but you can't deny that's what the movement is. I know I'm selling a cassandra type future prediction that's hard to swallow in the midst of a stunning victory, but you're going to think back to this moment and think of it as the first sign that you're captured by a group think similar as we've been seeing on the left for the last decade.
You're talking about a lack of discipline? Reddit powerjannies are calling the ADL a hate group because they released a statement saying it wasn't a Nazi salute. It's hard to imagine a world where this hurts the right more than the left, their message discipline is non-existent. I believe it was most likely just Elon being a spastic, and only because of how well it's working out am I considering the possibility he did it on purpose as bait.
 
No serious person actually believes Elon performed a Sieg Heil or even intended to do so. Debating people who claim otherwise is no different from trying to convince schizophrenics that the CIA isn't actually trying to mindcontrol them via the electromagnetic frequency emitted by their smoke detector.
I'm on the fence here, tbh. Elon Musk is media trained. He's an intelligent man, too. And no, he's not Hitler.
He must know that any gesture resembling the Roman Salute will get talked about.

"Dog whistling" to the far-far-right? Trolling the libs for fun? Or just a load of nothing?
The added plausible deniability from his words is so very perfect as to be deliberate. He may as well have said "he's about THIS tall and he's standing over THERE".

No, I don't think he's a big ol' Nazi. That would be a spastic thing to assume.
Yes, I do think there's a non-zero chance that he's knowingly playing funny games. This is the man who called his new department DOGE, right?
He may well have done it for the meme. That's not crazy talk.
 
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