Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Judges do sometimes put their signature to opinions written by clerks.

That’s more of a “do the dirty work of drafting this mentioning this and that, and I’ll read and sign it”.

 

[SCRAM]

That’s more of a “do the dirty work of drafting this mentioning this and that, and I’ll read and sign it”.

That read and sign it part is important. As @AnOminous said he's still going to take responsibility for the contents of the document as his signature is on it and approved.

If he disagreed with the document it would be sent back to the clerk and most likely adjusted to suit.

 

[AnOminous]

Judges do sometimes put their signature to opinions written by clerks.

This is very bad practice.

 

[Thomas Talus]

This is very bad practice.

I'm not saying it isn't, just that I've seen it happen.

 

[BoomerPrime]

Greer's eyes would pop out of his head.

There's only so much room for trauma lumps inside that noggin'

Alas, Russtard requires permission from the opposition to abandon the case now.

Either he needs to start litigating it properly to completion or simply prepare to be fucked by the long dick of the law. In any event, it's going to take an immense financial and psychological toll. He gets what he fucking deserves.

I think @AnOminous said it previously in the thread: the dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed. I think most of us are waiting with baited bated breath for that arrival at this point.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

baited breath

bated breath - unless you’re going for a master baiting joke.

https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/pardon-the-expression/bated-breath-vs-baited-breath/

Or a Greer “fishlips” joke.

 

[obsdj]

bated breath - unless you’re going for a master baiting joke.

https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/pardon-the-expression/bated-breath-vs-baited-breath/

Or a Greer “fishlips” joke.

I was gonna tell him to stop snacking on nightcrawlers.

 

[Pat Fried Rice]

There's only so much room for trauma lumps inside that noggin'


I think @AnOminous said it previously in the thread: the dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed. I think most of us are waiting with bated breath for that arrival at this point.

This is probably the detail that’s causing him the most plights. Pretty much most of this case has been driven and drug out by the Drooling Phantasm himself. I’m not going to go into yet another analysis of Russ’s various dealings with the courts and defendants, but the fact that he literally has no control over how things proceed from here is likely causing him to sweat harder than a Zoom appearance.

 

[Napoleon III]

People should know that the "activist clerk" thing is the kind of thing that murders your career in the crib if you get caught doing it. Clerking for a federal judge is generally a foot in the door to a very prestigious carrier, as long as you keep it between the lines.

A lot of young law graduates seem to be unhinged leftoids though, so who knows.

You don't even have to be super activist if you were extremely subversive you could just slowly push the envelope. If a lot of other clerks were doing the same thing at the same time that would also function like a shield and allow all the others to further push the envelope.

I won't say more about how to do this but there are several other sorts of little tricks to magnify the effect of clerks who have been captured.

This is very bad practice.

You could describe the US legal system as bad.

 

[Jacknife]

This is very bad practice.

In germany judgements are often written by law students, sometimes even before the actual trial.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

This is probably the detail that’s causing him the most plights. Pretty much most of this case has been driven and drug out by the Drooling Phantasm himself. I’m not going to go into yet another analysis of Russ’s various dealings with the courts and defendants, but the fact that he literally has no control over how things proceed from here is likely causing him to sweat harder than a Zoom appearance.

Russ seems a lot of like one of those people who doesn't contemplate much beyond the present and only possesses the barest understanding of the future. He might vaguely know that he has to submit some motion or file some other legal document "not now but later", but cannot adequately plan for it which is why we always get some utter travesty of words submitted only after a deadline has passed or a spontaneous and uncalled for submission when his plight upset him enough to override whatever else he may be doing at the present moment and compel him to compose the legal equivalent of a botched back-alley abortion.

He never has had any control or understanding of where things are headed due to his tenuous grasp on the future. He can only try to undo the thing that has already been done after it did not go the way he wanted it to go and blindly hope that it works. No contingencies were created ahead of time, no alternatives were ever considered or planned for. There is no larger strategy, only a series of "unfair" problems for future Russel to manage only when time places them in the lap of present Russel. This is why he cannot foresee how badly (e.g. sanctions he cannot escape from) continuing this case could go for him in regards to from or how his present behavior (e.g. lying about the magistrate judge in his filings) will cause future problems.

He cannot do anything but drag the case out because he cannot see the writing on the wall or contemplate a future where things go poorly for him. It will only be ended when the courts issue a final ruling indicating that the thing which has already been done cannot be undone. Unfortunately this does not mean that Greer will not file another lawsuit and begin the process anew. Short of the courts tard wrangling him on behalf of the Farms and hookers across Nevada, we're stuck in Russ's present-tense hell along with him.

 

[ConSluttant]

There's only so much room for trauma lumps inside that noggin'


I think @AnOminous said it previously in the thread: the dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed. I think most of us are waiting with baited breath for that arrival at this point.

The corollary of the dildo of consequences is that the vibrator of anticipation is always juuuuust slightly off of the sweet spot - which is where Kiwi Farms resides. I'm really really waiting for the judge to come smashing down on Russ's filing. It's gonna be gooooood.

 

[Empress Nympho]

I'm rereading his latest filing because I just skimmed it last time and relied on Useful_Mistake and the rest of you guys for commentary. But there are some parts that I just... listen, I didn't watch *all* of the magistrate's videos re: discovery, but of course this isn't my lawsuit. I'm just here for the gossip and schadenfreude.

But I was on the Zoom call, and I did listen, and while not a paralegal (basically a lawyer don'tchaknow), I got the gist. Because the magistrate used words that somebody who is *not* well-versed in the law could understand. And I think that was generous of him, he is giving Russ lots of leeway as a pro se applicant even though the sheer volume of lawsuits filed by this idiot should give him at the very least a basic idea of what was going on.

What I am hung up on in this situation is the fact that Russ apparently wasn't aware that his witnesses would be subject to depositions. The scheduling conference clearly laid out that each side was entitled to 10 depositions. Does he not understand what a deposition is? Just in general? I mean, he demanded that Hardin disclose the questions beforehand, to which Hardin responded with a hearty LOL.

And he took NOTES. His notes are an exhibit!! The notes say 10 depositions! The notes say, "Go to webpage of magistrate judge to see how rules of discovery." HOW DID HE FUCK THIS UP SO BAD? (I assume that he got mixed up and his note of "10 deposition" was a reference to the fact that Hardin wanted to allot 10 hours to Russ's deposition, but I think that is a very generous assumption.)

I know, I know, it's Russell. It's Russell Greer. That is literally all that needs to be said re: this monumental fuckup, I've been following this idiot for the better part of four years, I get it. But what did this creature learn in his five (5!!) years of paralegal school? His pursuit of hookers alone does not account for his failure to graduate. He must have repeated classes multiple times. His classmate stated in the main thread that the school did not adequately prepare her for work as a paralegal, sure, but they still must have learned SOMETHING.

I'm sorry, all, but I just can't wrap my head around it. It's Russell Greer. I get that part. But he explains and explains and explains and I do not understand. The assignment was clear.

And, like, I know that Josh has stated multiple times not to give this dummy legal advice in the thread. But if he is reading the thread, how did he miss the multiple people who noted that simply stating "for attorney's eyes only," or "confidential," would have prevented the "publishing" of the so-called private information of the witnesses he's insisting he tried to protect? It beggars belief. It has to be on purpose.

His filing also states that those awful Kiwi Farmers stalked and harass his previous attorney, Andrew Grimm. No exhibit backing that up, of course.

I count at least one truth in his filing, however. Greer is for certain a "big dummy." (That alleged e-mail isn't an exhibit, either. Curious.)

 

[Bogliacci]

HOW DID HE FUCK THIS UP SO BAD?

Because he did it maliciously and is trying to string the court along.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Because he did it maliciously and is trying to string the court along.

I think he is acting maliciously, and trying to string the court along, but specifically I think he thinks he's super clever and is trying to trap Hardin into doing something wrong. After all, every single time something happens he screams that Hardin is being bad.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Does he not understand

No. Russell has an opinion about How Things Ought To Be, and this opinion bears no resemblance to reality. He is immune to any form of introspection or critical thinking which would expose the flaws in his thought process.

 

[DavidS877]

And, like, I know that Josh has stated multiple times not to give this dummy legal advice in the thread. But if he is reading the thread, how did he miss the multiple people who noted that simply stating "for attorney's eyes only," or "confidential," would have prevented the "publishing" of the so-called private information of the witnesses he's insisting he tried to protect? It beggars belief. It has to be on purpose.

I don't understand how you get told discovery is under the "Standard Protective Order" and not go to Google and type in "Standard Protective Order Utah District" and click on the FIRST LINK and read what it says.
And then on the bottom of the first page.

It has a bold header and everything.

 

[Suah Noteb]

If I ever have to sue someone for any reason I hope I get a judge like this one

 

[kcbbq]

I don't understand how you get told discovery is under the "Standard Protective Order" and not go to Google and type in "Standard Protective Order Utah District" and click on the FIRST LINK and read what it says.
And then on the bottom of the first page.
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It has a bold header and everything.

He did it on purpose, sacrificing the family he is part of entirely out of selflessness to try and trap Hardin. There's no other explanation that works considering he spent 5 entire years training as a paralegal and has sued half the country already.

 

[Terrifik]

Because he did it maliciously and is trying to string the court along.

you forgot trying to grift of josh & kiwifarm bad image.
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