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It really annoys me how hostile supposed right-wing people are to Patriot Front and the like. Every time someone tries to organize like the left does, it's just an endless stream of "oh, they're all federal agents."

It's an incredibly defeatist attitude.
I'll add on to the 'fed plant' comments. For those of us who were around in the 2015-17 we remember what right-wing organizing (including og PF) looked like. A hodgepodge of different groups and ideologies, nobody had uniforms besides the actual nazi larpers. Fast forward a few years, lots of people get arrested, Cville happens in 2017 and most of the organizers who didn't get arrested broke off and/or went underground. The Proud Boys, Oathkeepers etc. stuck around and ended up with a bunch of informants ratting everyone out.

Sometime around 2020 PF went from being another random far right group putting up posters to marching around in uniform dress and showing up to stuff like prolife protests. There's not much 'fire' in regards to them being feds/infiltrated, but there's a lot of smoke. Either way getting in street fights with crackhead antifa members and ruining the optics of other conservative gatherings doesn't do anyone good. We aren't in 1930s Germany.

There's a line between being a libertarian pussy calling grandmas feds for holding signs to protest Trump's arrest(yes some of them said this) and encouraging young guys to go out and get themselves arrested for street violence.
 
What would it take to turn Bernie to our side of politics? The tears from socialists across the earth would be so fucking funny.
Once the shock and awe of this early stuff settles down, and trump gets his cabinet in place, I think Trump and Bernie could work together on a couple issues. Bernie was onboard for the capping interest rates on CC at 10 percent, I can't see why they can't spring off that and try to work together on some health care stuff. I don't expect them to get anything accomplished, but what could it hurt to try.

I think that's one thing a lot of people don't get, if you have a good idea and Trump thinks it will help the American people, he doesn't care about party politics. He cares about getting a win that helps the people more than anything.
 
I knew they were feds when the police did absolutely nothing at all about any protests, especially not to protect the conservative side of things... Except intervene to keep anyone, including the press, from approaching the Patriot Front guys, at which point they were allowed to march out of sight and hopped into identical white vans and left the area.

This happened repeatedly, over and over again, until the press stopped even reporting on that much.
The thing that convinced me that they were feds was some one pointing out that their uniform is litterally the fbi uniform plus a few other items and the fact that in all the footage you will see of these people there is not a single fat fuck among them they're all perfectly in shape. it isn't merely a lack of obeasts it's the lack of heavy hairy plumber men it's like they all had to pass a strict government physical.

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I'll add on to the 'fed plant' comments. For those of us who were around in the 2015-17 we remember what right-wing organizing (including og PF) looked like. A hodgepodge of different groups and ideologies, nobody had uniforms besides the actual nazi larpers. Fast forward a few years, lots of people get arrested, Cville happens in 2017 and most of the organizers who didn't get arrested broke off and/or went underground. The Proud Boys, Oathkeepers etc. stuck around and ended up with a bunch of informants ratting everyone out.

Sometime around 2020 PF went from being another random far right group putting up posters to marching around in uniform dress and showing up to stuff like prolife protests. There's not much 'fire' in regards to them being feds/infiltrated, but there's a lot of smoke. Either way getting in street fights with crackhead antifa members and ruining the optics of other conservative gatherings doesn't do anyone good. We aren't in 1930s Germany.

There's a line between being a libertarian pussy calling grandmas feds for holding signs to protest Trump's arrest(yes some of them said this) and encouraging young guys to go out and get themselves arrested for street violence.
Conservatives don't need to "organize." Get a job, have a family, make friends, touch grass, maybe go to church, and stick to American ideals. Lead by example, look out for your community, and have the stones to stand up to Fucktwat The Clown when he blows into town and tries a Pied Piper routine.

Communists have to "organize" because their bullshit requires trickery to accomplish. When you're doing the right thing, people won't be sure you're doing anything at all.
 
FUCKING HELL THEY'RE MEN! 15 percent of women in prison are MEN! They have more testosterone and are more violent than the other women and they raped women BECAUSE THEY'RE MEN!

The worst part is that this is such a transparently retarded statistic to anyone who stops to think about it for a second, and this is what they focus on in the article. It's manipulation. If you try running the numbers assuming people CAN'T just declare they are the opposite sex and have it be real, all your confusion will vanish. I am seething at journalists and I can't stop.

That's an absolutely insane statistic. Holy shit. I wonder how it compares to state prisoners, or if trannies really are just that much crazier?
No, listen, it's a statistics trick. Stop to think about what they're actually saying. There are more men than women in prison, because of inherent differences between sexes, and MAYBE that's mediated by our culture (steppe herders don't go to jail for rape in the 13th century, they go to Baghdad). They're calling men who "transition" women, and including them in the figure for female inmates. But they are just men, and are inherently much more likely to do violent crime and end up in prison. If you instead run the numbers assuming they are men, their incarceration rates will likely not be that special, maybe a bit higher, but the salient fact is their sex, which the article gets wrong on purpose in order to get a bizarre result they can use to push an agenda.

This type of analysis is retarded anyway, and any time you hear it it's an attempt at manipulation and you should learn to notice it immediately. When someone tells you some sob story about what percentage of <bad outcome> happens to <population subgroup>, and they don't immediately contextualize it with demographic information and convert it to base rates, just put them on the list and go on waiting to hear your activation codeword.

EDIT: just to make sure it's totally clear, NYT is getting an entire article out of purposely failing to notice that <crime rate for men> ~= <crime rate for MTF>, and <crime rate for women> ~= <crime rate for FTM>. Notice that, and this article doesn't contain any surprising statistics, but instead become a collection of evidence for the hypothesis that trannies are actually more like their birth sex than their preferred sex. Oh, and we're putting male criminals, who offend at rates and in ways like any other male criminal, in women's prisons with women.

EDIT2: I just want to state for the record that I edited to add stuff like 5 times after I first posted because when I first saw the article I was seething so hard I couldn't think straight enough to explain anything properly.
 
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The thing that convinced me that they were feds was some one pointing out that their uniform is litterally the fbi uniform plus a few other items and the fact that in all the footage you will see of these people there is not a single fat fuck among them they're all perfectly in shape. it isn't merely a lack of obeasts it's the lack of heavy hairy plumber men it's like they all had to pass a strict government physical.

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Got it, from now on only trust fat people.
 
That is interesting. Let’s dig into the cause of those arrests, thankfully they provide a government study. Let’s try to establish parameters for WHY they were arrested to begin with.

TL;DR: They’re in jail for two reasons:

1. They turn into violent retards when they’re misgendered.

2. They get arrested for being prostitutes.



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Okay, those are mostly reasonable parameters for harassment or violence, however I take great exception to (A) Officers using the wrong pronouns. That could simply be the officer making a mistake, they may need to address the individual based on their record on file.
(B) asking about an individuals transition is another exception. That seems like an officer is trying to inquire and learn about the subject, which is part of establishing a rapport. These are not inherently malicious behaviours and often aren’t.

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I’m going to make the correct assumption here based on the data they present and say that, by and large, the reason why they are in jail is because someone called them a troon, misgendered them and they turned into a retarded hulking monster and responded violently. That’s really weird, I wonder what gender typically has that reaction to verbal provocation? (It’s fucking men.)

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Ooooooooh, okay. This makes a lot of sense.

Look, let’s be real here. Your business is turning your boy pussy into a commodity. It’s your body, if you want to trade cash for it, go about your business but you cannot cry when you’re given a choice to sell it for your continued freedom. You may not like that exchange, much like I don’t like paying my expensive rent, but the alternative is a significantly poorer reality for you. If you find this situation in your current employment untenable, find another job. There’s lots of them, even for freaks of nature, in a country where freaks of nature not being hired for any reason becomes an HR nightmare and a lawsuit that’ll set you up for life….or they just fucking hire you anyway, which is what they always do to avoid the aforementioned lawsuit.

Your profession is also, uh, fucking illegal. That’s why you’re arrested, trans people are disproportionately prostitutes. There’s your problem, fix that.
 
The only time AI has seriously concerned me is having boomer relatives sending me AI stuff thinking it's real. Otherwise, AI is a long, long way off from being life-changing, and will most likely just end up being a more refined version of what it already is.
Ai as of right now isn't true ai, its more just a really complex chatbot, doesn't make it not impressive but as of right now and for the foreseeable future AI is still in its earliest days
 
Got it, from now on only trust fat people.
Funny but if you draw from the actual civilian populace your not going to get a perfect squad of college athletes your going to get people who are little off you know a few pounds over here a few people who are weirdly skinny that guy with the skin condition not stock perfect soldiers ready for battle.

Edit more succinctly it isn't that they're in good shape it's that they are in perfect shape
 
where I was, all my Japanese coworkers owned cars and it wasn't inaka, it was a commuter town in the Greater Nagoya region. How the hell could a nation become an international automotive powerhouse if it hated cars.

Fuck I lived in aichi

Were you involved with toyota?

Also people don't understand that Kie cars exist to be cheap little go carts.

Also Japan s take on zoning laws is awsome.
 
You're forgetting the third reason: when they say they are trannies, they get access to a bunch of pro-bono legal resources.
If that’s the case, I still have to sue my ex-wife for alimony. I hate that bitch so much I’ll tell the government I’m double trans I don’t give a FUCK, homie.
 
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