US Idaho beefs up firing squad as Bryan Kohbeger trial nears - In 2023, state lawmakers made the firing squad a viable backup plan, now some want it to be the primary means of execution

Idaho lawmakers are moving to bolster their newly restored firing squad as the state's primary means of execution with eight current death row inmates and the capital murder trial of student murders suspect Bryan Kohberger approaching.

"I, along with many others, believe the firing squad is more certain, has less appellate issues, and is more humane than other forms of execution," Idaho state Rep. Bruce Skaug, who introduced the legislation, told Fox News Digital. "We had a botched lethal injection attempt in Idaho last year."

In March 2023, the state revived the firing squad as a backup option for when lethal injection, a troubled and increasingly controversial method of execution, is not available.

Then last year, condemned serial killer Thomas Eugene Creech survived his lethal injection, prompting renewed interest in the firing squad.

The new move would make the firing squad the state's primary means of capital punishment – without any additional cost to taxpayers, since funding for the execution chamber was included in the previous bill.

Kohberger's defense, meanwhile has sought to have the death penalty taken off the table and is challenging warrants and DNA evidence used in his arrest.

Two days of hearings on defense motions in the quadruple murder case against University of Idaho student stabbings suspect ended without any official decisions but revealed new details ahead of his highly anticipated trial later this year. The judge is expected to deliver his decisions within a couple of weeks.

Fordham Law School professor Deborah Denno, a leading expert on the death penalty in the U.S., previously told Fox News Digital that the firing squad is accepted as the most efficient and humane means of execution.


"We've had three modern firing squad executions, and they have gone off as intended, and the inmate has died quickly and with dignity," she said after Creech's failed execution. "So, I think that is something to emphasize."

Lethal injections have been plagued by mishaps, drug shortages and botched attempts. Creech was the fourth person to survive a lathe execution in just the last few years.

Denno has advocated for giving inmates a choice in their means of execution.

"I have a hunch that more inmates would choose firing squad," she told Fox News Digital, noting that Tennessee inmates have begun choosing electrocution over lethal injection when given the choice.

Only four states have an option for the firing squad, although its use is extremely rare, according to the Death Penalty Information Center, which also describes lethal injections as the "most-botched" execution method.

Matt Mangino, a former Pennsylvania prosecutor who wrote a book on capital punishment, "The Executioner's Toll, 2010," said in the current political climate, he believes the new Idaho bill will pass.

 
Not only should the death penalty become common place again, we need new methods that are both terrifying and excruciating as so to discourage future criminals from deciding whether or not being a piece of shit is worth the agony.
You aren't wrong. I can only imagine how many would-be criminals would turn over a new leaf after baring witness to a murderer getting hanged, drawn and quartered.

Scaphism would also be a great one for deterrents. Fuck the "Scared Straight" program, make troubled kids watch a mother fucker wither away in abject agony over days of The Boats. I highly doubt they'll think being a gangbangin' criminal nigger is cool after that experience.
 
Just take a page from Ohio.
I don't understand how it is so complicated to kill people with lethal injection. Fentanyl is apparently everywhere and cheap as fuck, load up a 5x lethal dose and jabby jabby.
Yeah, everybody's overthinking it. People die from choking on food all the time, we practically kill ourselves. We have plenty of options.
 
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I don't understand how it is so complicated to kill people with lethal injection. Fentanyl is apparently everywhere and cheap as fuck, load up a 5x lethal dose and jabby jabby.
In Soviet Russia, nurse who try to save you kill you, and nurse who try to kill you save you!


Joke aside, I too am mystified by how just starting an IV line, something that happens countless times in hospitals (and vets offices) across the nation daily, but, dispense overdoses of heart medicine instead of insulin or whatever? Is apparently harder than landing on the Moon.
 
In Soviet Russia, nurse who try to save you kill you, and nurse who try to kill you save you!


Joke aside, I too am mystified by how just starting an IV line, something that happens countless times in hospitals (and vets offices) across the nation daily, but, dispense overdoses of heart medicine instead of insulin or whatever? Is apparently harder than landing on the Moon.
Because they have to go through sketchy compounders to get the drugs because if the yuros find out your big pharma company is allowing your drugs to be used for executions you get, essentially, sanctions.

And of course the same drugs are a-okay and fine and 'safe and effective' for putting down sadbrains in the EU and Canada.
 
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without any additional cost to taxpayers, since funding for the execution chamber was included in the previous bill.
Just use the prison yard and a brick wall, you idiots.
How is this not the standard? It’s far cheaper than lethal injection
Something about avoiding unnecessary harm. But the reality is, that the drugs were an scam and Ol Sparky just isn't as reliable
 
I don't understand how it is so complicated to kill people with lethal injection. Fentanyl is apparently everywhere and cheap as fuck, load up a 5x lethal dose and jabby jabby.
I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Just grab a bag of shit out of the evidence locker and do it.

I feel like part of the stupidity is that there's a lingering idea that the death itself should be shitty but not too shitty. Somewhat dignified but not an honorable death by any means. Whereas I'm like, "Don't go away mad, just go away."

Vote for me for dictator and I'll go into Death Row handing out 8-balls.

Free men voluntarily kill themselves with hardcore drugs. If Death Row shitbags want to check out early, why not let them?

Is taking the cup less dignified than facing the guns?
 
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Anything to do with Mormons and "blood atonement?" Idaho is the second most Mormon state per capita, IIRC.

The mainstream LDS church vehemently denies the doctrine, but it seems like part of their folklore that has never quite gone away.
I would say yes, Mormons may disagree...
Since 1960 there have been four executions by firing squad, all in Utah: The 1960 execution of James W. Rodgers, Gary Gilmore's execution in 1977, and John Albert Taylor in 1996, who chose a firing squad for his execution, according to The New York Times, "to make a statement that Utah was sanctioning murder". Ronnie Lee Gardner was executed by firing squad in 2010, having said he preferred this method of execution because of his "Mormon heritage". Gardner also felt that lawmakers were trying to eliminate the firing squad, in opposition to popular opinion in Utah, because of concern over the state's image in the 2002 Winter Olympics.
 
Just use a bullet. It's cheap and effective. I'm not a fan of these elaborate torture methods. The death penalty should be a purely utilitarian thing meant to remove dangerous people from society forever without being a burden on the taxpayer. No more of this 20 years on death row endlessly appealing it. Bullet to the back of the head as soon as you're sentenced.
 
Anything to do with Mormons and "blood atonement?" Idaho is the second most Mormon state per capita, IIRC.

The mainstream LDS church vehemently denies the doctrine, but it seems like part of their folklore that has never quite gone away.
Yes, it is Mormon Blood Atonement - The Executioner's Song, by Norman Mailer, also Gary Gilmore's brother Mikhail's book. A Shot in the Dark, discuss Gary, LDS Blood Atonement, and the firing squad. John Krakauer's Under the Banner of Heaven gives a good overview of the LDS church's history with Blood Atonement.
 
Yes, it is Mormon Blood Atonement - The Executioner's Song, by Norman Mailer, also Gary Gilmore's brother Mikhail's book. A Shot in the Dark, discuss Gary, LDS Blood Atonement, and the firing squad. John Krakauer's Under the Banner of Heaven gives a good overview of the LDS church's history with Blood Atonement.
I bet that in 20-30 years, their "prophet" will get a memo from "God" telling them that they had been understanding "blood atonement" the wrong way the whole time and that it was meant in a merely "spiritual" way (=Mormonism will claim that being against the dp is an uber-Mormon doctrine). This happend to their profound racism, btw.

Anyway, we could just stop this medieval performance of virtue signalling for retards and tackle real problems,right? Like not enough asylums, shrinks, not enough well paid and well trained cops, prisons being "universities of advanced criminality" instead of rehabilitation and the likes? Capital punishment is a psychologically dysfunctional (=retard) method of pretending to solve problems. Now give me your trash cans, I don't care.
 
You aren't wrong. I can only imagine how many would-be criminals would turn over a new leaf after baring witness to a murderer getting hanged, drawn and quartered.
None of them. It doesn't work. There's a million bodycam videos of people getting shot to death by the cops but DaQuarius still thinks he's going to beat three nervous officers on the draw with the Hi-Point stuffed down his pants. Criminals either do not have that level of forethought, or they have enough forethought to never get caught.
 
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Not only should the death penalty become common place again, we need new methods that are both terrifying and excruciating as so to discourage future criminals from deciding whether or not being a piece of shit is worth the agony.
That's working at cross purpose to reducing crime

For the small minority who commit most crime, ie the blacks, the brain damaged, the mentally ill, the future consequence of their actions doesn't mitigate their present intentions.

The death penalty is no disincentive, it's use is limited to keeping the rest of the flock safe.

In order to do that, you want to maximise the number of the aforementioned the state can execute, so you want the process to be as non controversial as possible.

Personally I'd be for dosing them with nitrogen so they just drift off to sleep.
 
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