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What does Bukele get out of it? A more favorable trade deal? Free prison labor? Cash? Tribute to the king? I like the idea I'm just curious the end game for Bukele is.
Cash, probably. Bukele's El Salvador is in a much better place but the entire country is basically in a military dictatorship under martial law. It needs a permanent economy.
 
Obviously the kids being trafficked that didn't exist and were a right wing nazi conspiracy theory do exist and drumpf is traficking them for his personal mar-a-lago rape dungeon and they want Newsom and the LAPD to save them and then conquer fascism with love and diversity
Shit. I had to double check your username.

I thought, for a moment, that the Hulkster had decided to throw a folding chair into the ringthread.

Which he should do occasionally.
 
So if it this is true......

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What does Bukele get out of it? A more favorable trade deal? Free prison labor? Cash? Tribute to the king? I like the idea I'm just curious the end game for Bukele is.

He probably gets paid to take them in, and given the huge prisons he built in El Salvador he likely has the space and infrastructure to handle it. It also fucks with the logistics of illegal immigrants as El Salvador is much farther away than Mexico.
 
That interviewer is such a fucking bitch, this is yet another example of why we hate journos so much now. She doesn't have to kiss his ass, but she is very much hostile to Vance here trying to nab some GOTCHA moments. She came in there looking for a fight.
I loved that he took the opportunity to call the journos worthless too. 'Donald J. Trump wasn't elected by the journalists (paraphrasing)' just had her stuck. She was talking the whole time like the news were the only ones whose opinions mattered and that they were cheated out of an election. Vance had to argue that the president is in fact voted for by the people, which shouldn't have to be explained to anybody with half a brain.
 
I'll just buy locally grown flowers (plenty around here) and use the 3 month supply of coffee I already have.
Do people seriously not stock up on coffee when it's on sale?
Not my problem if so. Learn to have a buffer for situations like these.
You can also buy coffee in bulk off amazon, if you don't have Sam's club/Costco membership.
 
I almost wonder if Trump sends them to El Salvador, then Bukele picks the ones who might be good (5%) and then he will kick them back out to wherever because no one will notice/care when El Salvador does it.

As for Colombia, this is a good point about how W fucked us up with flowers, even if it was people Califagia being affected:
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I hate this argument so much: "Do YoU kNoW hoW mucH of X coMes frOm *insert shithole country here?*"

Unless it's an important commodity like gold, steel or gas, I don't fucking care.
 
"Country founded by immigrants" The classic lie, this country was founded by settlers and conquerors. Immigrants came with time but sadly conservatives and leftists have swallowed that lie wholesale.
She and the other retards are probably conflating the colonization of America with the 'development' (or whatever you want to call it) of cities such as New York. Which I suppose to them might as well be the country since that's how they seem to treat things.
 
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Indeed. These people don't realize that throughout history, there were no such things as "mass deportations". It was basically an entire enraged town chasing their foreigners out of town, beating them to death in the process.

Only the lucky ones who managed to outrun the angry mobs lived to tell the tale.
Why don't they just hold up a sign that says "Here we are ICE"
 
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Indeed. These people don't realize that throughout history, there were no such things as "mass deportations". It was basically an entire enraged town chasing their foreigners out of town, beating them to death in the process.

Only the lucky ones who managed to outrun the angry mobs lived to tell the tale.
They GENUINELY lucked out with Trump. The dude is tired of bullshit but still wants to make deals. If Trump didn't have the power of god and anime on his side and died when they wanted him to, sure they might've had 4 more years of rule, but the guy who replaced him would not nearly be as kind. That's how you really get a Hitler-type to rise to power.
 
You seen his first day and Biden's where they just throw out all of the past presidents executive orders, hell Trump threw out one from LBJ, they don't have any real lasting impact.
If you want real change you need them to become actual law or amendments and both sides know a lot of the orders are going to go to the Supreme Court.

Executive Orders are impermanent, yes, but they are not the last or only thing that Trump can and will do. What they are, though, is fast, easy to do, and immediately go into effect which is very important for Trump's overall long term strategy to disrupt the enemy, create openings, and build momentum to support tactical gains. Let me explain in more detail.

Speaking from a completely dry, context-free view, Trump occupies a weak position: the majorities in both Houses are razor thin, elements of his own party do not support him, entrenched opponents in the executive are colluding with well heeled interests, the media hounds him, and his opposition has no moral boundaries. The logical, likely outcome of such a position is that his entire Presidency is smothered in the cradle, bound up in a thousand struggles, bled dry from attacks from all directions, impotent and directionless. Essentially a repeat of his first term, but more vicious and blatant.

The additional context that provides his exit strategy is that his opponents are held together in alliance by very loose convenience, the populace truly desires change, and his internal in-party opposition are easily cowed into compliance. To take advantage of these factors, however, requires that Trump take the initiative and force his opponents into a reactionary stance. He has to stay ahead of the snare inherent in defensive action and maintain a political and cultural momentum. That is why he was signing EOs and Pardons before the champagne got warm on Inauguration Day, to immediately burst through the planned ambushes and launch his own counter-offensive.

As we saw, his opposition was completely unprepared for this blitz of action, and since they are a coalition of different interests they were splintered in where to focus. (Elon, God's perfect Autist, helped with his distracting sperg salute, causing additional disarray.) While they scattered his opponents, the EOs/Pardons also motivated his base to immediately double their fervor in support, evangelism and pressure on representatives. I think it is impossible to overstate the absolute shock it is to the majority of American to see within hours of swearing-in such immediate, decisive action being taken, and to see how it has restored civic morale.

He knows, from his business and media career, that there is a feedback loop to success and attention that will continue if he feeds it smartly and takes advantage of the increasing support he gets from each action. The EOs, posturing on Columbia, Vance folding the media, etc, all feed into this and take advantage of it, as he builds more momentum and political capital it allows him to exercise additional power outside of his direct control. At a certain point, the rogue elements in his own party will either capitulate to him, or be replaced - and at that juncture the temporary gains from his EOs can be solidified into law. The courts, while they pretend to be neutral, are also swayed by this type of soft power and will bend to his will eventually.

The only way he gets to any kind of permanent change is by making these temporary changes - these are the opening salvos to open up a line of attack into the heart of enemy territory.
 
So good to see DEI get dumped on and they know about how they are trying to rename or hide it.
Good, they always like to play these stupid little word games and act like as long as they didn't say the forbidden word that they didn't technically say it. So I'm glad to see the secdef wisen up to their bullshit. 'If it quacks like a duck, and chops its dick off like a pedo' and all.
 
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