UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

View image on Twitter


spread happiness@p4leandp1nk

https://twitter.com/p4leandp1nk/status/1080767496569974785

#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs
2764.png



7

10:07 AM - Jan 3, 2019

See spread happiness's other Tweets

Twitter Ads info and privacy


Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

View image on Twitter


pg often@pgofton

https://twitter.com/pgofton/status/1080772793774624768

The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


42

10:28 AM - Jan 3, 2019

See pg often's other Tweets

Twitter Ads info and privacy


TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Oh the Mummy medicine is absolutely where this all comes from. I however, have a particular disdain for white saviour liberal Americans who shout British! Bad! at things like this.

Yes we had people who ate mummies. So did America. I found several sources of Americans who did mummy unraveling parties and the like. Well after independence. Egpytomania was everywhere

Yes we had slaves. So did America. You notice how she says in the video (omg the British ate black people in America !!! Wait that was you lot, you all wanted independence fuck off with that at least claim your own crimes)

Yes we have the British museum filled with finders keepers goods. So does the Smithsonian and probably most the museums in America. They all want to claim it’s anyone else but themselves so they can feel good about themselves. Because then they can pander to blacks and Mexicans and whatever fuckwits that are pushing CRT.
 
Oh the Mummy medicine is absolutely where this all comes from. I however, have a particular disdain for white saviour liberal Americans who shout British! Bad! at things like this.

Yes we had people who ate mummies. So did America. I found several sources of Americans who did mummy unraveling parties and the like. Well after independence. Egpytomania was everywhere

Yes we had slaves. So did America. You notice how she says in the video (omg the British ate black people in America !!! Wait that was you lot, you all wanted independence fuck off with that at least claim your own crimes)

Yes we have the British museum filled with finders keepers goods. So does the Smithsonian and probably most the museums in America. They all want to claim it’s anyone else but themselves so they can feel good about themselves. Because then they can pander to blacks and Mexicans and whatever fuckwits that are pushing CRT.
The Brits are bad because you colonized the Indians and taught them English.
 
Who gets to decide what and who is ethnically British?
Sorry man. I'm not going to play gay semantic games. We all know that the British are the Anglo-saxons and the celts of the British Isles. Anyone not that, isn't British. You know this, I know this, everyone knows this and anyone that pretends not to is arguing for the obliteration of the British people and should be ignored.

If you're not British and are some flavour of brown, I'm sorry for your situation, you should go out the country. You don't belong.
You probably, just to be able to draw a line in the sand, need to pick a date and anyone who draw their ancestry to that point gets to call themselves British.

I mean the hugenots aren't going back nor the landsnecht, at this stage. Portsmouth natives still have a sallow phenotype from all the lascars.

I'm not Bri'ish but 1945 probably makes sense for that. Recent enough for good records to exist. You'll have some browns included but generally they'll be the most integrated ones. It's a big enough event, end of ww2, to stand as a benchmark
 
Oh the Mummy medicine is absolutely where this all comes from. I however, have a particular disdain for white saviour liberal Americans who shout British! Bad! at things like this.

Yes we had people who ate mummies. So did America. I found several sources of Americans who did mummy unraveling parties and the like. Well after independence. Egpytomania was everywhere

Yes we had slaves. So did America. You notice how she says in the video (omg the British ate black people in America !!! Wait that was you lot, you all wanted independence fuck off with that at least claim your own crimes)

Yes we have the British museum filled with finders keepers goods. So does the Smithsonian and probably most the museums in America. They all want to claim it’s anyone else but themselves so they can feel good about themselves. Because then they can pander to blacks and Mexicans and whatever fuckwits that are pushing CRT.
They do it because the British are one of the few groups that your average liberal can be vocally racist towards without being ostracized. If it was just as acceptable to make fun of Pakistanis for being child-raping inbred savages, they'd all be doing it as well.
 
I'm not Bri'ish but 1945 probably makes sense for that.
That's within living memory it's not nearly far enough, I'd say 1830ish or so for full acceptance at the least because Catholic Emancipation was a pretty defining epoch of multiculturalness, everyone from before that has some decent claim to actually being here without any chance of divided loyalties (looking at you, early 1900s "Lithuanians").
If you want to be very exclusivist you could fling it as far back as decent records allow circa the Black Death but I wouldn't go that far, pretty much everyone who is actually native autochthonous and indigenous should have no trouble finding some main-line ancestor from the 1600's. If your great-great-great-granny was a slut who banged a Fleming to spawn your bastard van-der-lineage that's fine but if your still breathing great grandad is Zanzibari emigre not so much.
 
Last edited:
The question is where are they removed to, and who is it they're removing? They're generally not sending them back to their home countries because those are considered "dangerous", so they have to be sending them to some third nation. If they're only being sent over to the EU then it's a meaningless gesture, because they'll be back in a week.

Inward migration has also risen under Labour, which now intends to increase it to even greater levels than the tories, with the same implicit goal: They want more "workers". Only now it's to fund their enormous spending pledges rather than suppress wages.
How many of these 16,400 removal were because their work/student Visas had expired, or they did not have the right documents when arriving by aeroplane into a UK airport?

16,400 illegals deported in 2024.
36,816 illegals arrived on boats from France, many from safe countries such as Albania.

Lies, damn lies and Labour Party statistics?
 
You probably, just to be able to draw a line in the sand, need to pick a date and anyone who draw their ancestry to that point gets to call themselves British.

I mean the hugenots aren't going back nor the landsnecht, at this stage. Portsmouth natives still have a sallow phenotype from all the lascars.

I'm not Bri'ish but 1945 probably makes sense for that. Recent enough for good records to exist. You'll have some browns included but generally they'll be the most integrated ones. It's a big enough event, end of ww2, to stand as a benchmark
That's within living memory it's not nearly far enough, I'd say 1830ish or so for full acceptance at the least because Catholic Emancipation was a pretty defining epoch of multiculturalness, everyone from before that has some decent claim to actually being here without any chance of divided loyalties (looking at you, early 1900s "Lithuanians").
If you want to be very exclusivist you could fling it as far back as decent records allow circa the Black Death but I wouldn't go that far, pretty much everyone who is actually native autochthonous and indigenous should have no trouble finding some main-line ancestor from the 1600's. If your great-great-great-granny was a slut who banged a Fleming to spawn your bastard van-der-lineage that's fine but if your still breathing great grandad is Zanzibari emigre not so much.
1800's and you have to be white. It's not hard, will there be weird outliers, sure. But to be British you literally have to be a European descended individual at the very bare minimum.
 
1800's and you have to be white. It's not hard, will there be weird outliers, sure. But to be British you literally have to be a European descended individual at the very bare minimum.
Gotta have some degree of discernment if you want to go full blood and soil, don't need to go total Nuremburg code on the Walloons but the ideal ethnostate shouldn't be letting in the eyetalians either we've suffered enough under latinates.
Speaking of nahtzees the BBC are currently running a live update page for Holocaust day, tagline is the youngest survivor at 86, a good couple more decades perhaps?
 
How many of these 16,400 removal were because their work/student Visas had expired, or they did not have the right documents when arriving by aeroplane into a UK airport?

16,400 illegals deported in 2024.
36,816 illegals arrived on boats from France, many from safe countries such as Albania.

Lies, damn lies and Labour Party statistics?
Thats like a drop in the pond i've heard people says that there are literally millions of illegals here and both the torys and labour lie about it. :roll:
 
Gotta have some degree of discernment if you want to go full blood and soil, don't need to go total Nuremburg code on the Walloons but the ideal ethnostate shouldn't be letting in the eyetalians either we've suffered enough under latinates.
Speaking of nahtzees the BBC are currently running a live update page for Holocaust day, tagline is the youngest survivor at 86, a good couple more decades perhaps?
Anything on the boys from Greenwich Uni? Had a bud there that was working on a big animation for this day to be presented at the place. It was about the Night of Broken Glasses

UPDATE: It was a nothing buger. Dude really oversold it
 
Last edited:
  • Thunk-Provoking
Reactions: Mound Dweller
You know, I was making a post in another thread but I figured this would be the better place for it.
For fun, grab the same numbers for Japan and plot them against the UK, shifted 20 years. The population here went real stale due to too many fuckin' old people, and we're just about now getting out of that dip as the old people are dying off and the lower birth rate is accounted for as normal.

Outside of the insane immigration policies, the UK is following the same story Japan did from what I can tell. Some other farmer pointed out that the government doesn't have many levers to pull other than importing infinity browns, so at least they're doing something but you would have thought your government would stop pressing the "rape young native girls" button when they read the label on it.
Problem is, what do we actually do about it? I don't think there's any easy answer.
You've got three flavors.

1. Find your Trump and get him elected, remove kebab, and heal as best you can.
2. Violent revolution.
3. @Otterly style soft influence to bring everyone into the "I hate muslamics" club. Then 1. and 2. become much easier. I also recommend necklacing.
I would raise wages first thing. So many unproductive jobs in this country which don't add any value to anyone, those would disappear if you increased minimum wage to something reasonable like say, £16 an hour.
Fool. A minimum wage simply breeds evil like zero hours and crushes small businesses. Abolish the minimum wage, regulate wage collusion (and actually enforce the regulations), and deport the browns.
the idea that earning £30K should be seen as a normal salary which nets you about £2000 after tax a month which is simply not enough.
You absolute nigger. You complete baboon. £2k a month is absolutely enough to live on. I know a guy who was paying £1k into a mortgage and covered his essentials with about £400 a month even after the energy costs went berserk. If he was making £2k a month he'd be laughing. He currently is laughing because what I said about the mortgage was past tense.

£2k a month is enough to raise a family on. Move out of the fucking city.
Well as Farage has said on many other things such as having populism and funnily enough deportations in the UK:

"That wouldn't work here"
And he's right. America can bully other countries (lol Columbia) because it has the power to back up threats. "Oh, you won't take your planeloads of Colombian human scum? Well we're imposing tariffs on all your shit, suspending visas, and keeping all your diplomats under a travel ban." The UK does not have that power. Imagine telling France "we'll tariff you!" France KNOWS you'd never dare, and even if you did, it wouldn't hurt them one bit.

The UK is, for now, completely toothless.
Having sex with children is not British
Didn't you have that whole thing with the BBC, where a bunch of nonces were being hidden and covered for? That big famous one Savile who would grope kids on live TV? I don't want to go look up a picture because British people make me retch, but I seem to remember Savile was very British looking.
 
If it makes you feel better, people do give a shit
Bit of a late reply but a lot of what you and @teriyakiburns said has consoled me greatly and help put it in perspective somewhat culturally. I knew there was some bubbling under the surface but it may just take some time. Thank you guys for the response.

The description of how uni students respond to it over here, I've come to find, it exactly as you've described. It's been aggravating to see.

Enjoy your time studying here! But I wouldn't recommend considering staying after uni, our salaries are terrible compared to the US.
Thank you very much! I have been so far, it's a bit bizarre and everything is so insanely expensive it's a bit eye-watering but still has been good at point of writing. I appreciate the heads up but I had no intention of staying unless there was an good job opportunity that could compensate that (lol, lmao even). I sympathize with you guys immensely but I'm not sure if I could see a plausible future here for me. That being said, I appreciate your country's hospitality towards me and being permitted to study here. The English people I've ran into here (when I somehow find one) have been generally quite kind and polite people.

I return to lurking lest I can contribute in some way, thanks again for the reassurance/clarification. I think just reading about it was getting under my skin in the same way it did when people in Asheville were told to kick rocks and go back to their mud tents when California botched everything and was promised a blank cheque (though one is so immensely worse it's hard to quantify, I'm just comparing the transatlantic noticing)
 
Or then being upset that they are only 10% Irish when they are soooo Irish.
There is an analogy to England.

The director of Ensy Man and Bait, two films steeped in Cornish tradition, said in an interview that he was not 'English' but a celt. I winced when I read it. He was postering. What he was saying was hollow and without meaning, but it is not an uncommon position. Depending on their circumstances, English artists like to emphasis what faint traces they may have to other cultures. They are, like the director, simply trying to escape history, the nightmare from which none of us can wake up from. Do they hate England? I used to think so. Now I think they are simply following a very English tradition of self-loathing.

I was educated in a Catholic school. Growing up, the attitude to think oneself as Irish, rather than English, was common. One Irish grandmother outweighed the importance of the other three English (or Scottish) grandparents. Even I indulged such thoughts: “I am not just English; you see I am also Irish. My blood is not completely lacking in vigour! What? I have never seen those faraway lands, or touched those mystical stones, but I feel it in my bones, more or less.” The Scouse, the most plastic of all paddies, have a saying: Scouse, Not English.

Famous converts to the Faith, Newman, Evelyn Waugh, Hopkins, have always sincerely been English, how could they not? All three were educated at Oxford. They lacked that Irish part of the story that so many English Catholics do. Their feelings towards the Irish were bog standard for the period they lived in: Waugh hated Ireland when he visited. Hopkins wrote some lovely poems about how lonely he was when sent there by Church authorities.

Newman spent his later career arguing that he was not an interloper and traitor to his country due to his conversion. His greatest work, the Apologia pro Vita Sua, is a justification after years of suffering abuse from men who really wished to convert themselves but lacked the courage.

All three writers were not confused men. They were as English as you and I and, I now believe, shared much of the same attitudes those pseudo-Irish students did and do. Waugh, Hopkins, and Newman could not pretend to be of a nation that they barely visited, but those students could and they did.

It is exotic to claim to be a celt or Irish when one's whole life is spent in England, but it can only be done performatively. I can drink Guinness, learn Gaelic, and develop an interest in Polytheism, but I was raised in England, around its customs and traits, and what came before me cannot be ignored. To identify with a foreign or dead belief system because one finds England dull is an immature mindset; and now that people are expected not to grow up, it persists and withers even the most interesting of flowers.

Personally, I share the view of Morrisey: English Heart, Irish Blood. My history, right or wrong, is my own. I cannot argue against it, for it has already happened; I cannot reject it because it lingers in these bones. That I try to understand and accept it is all I can do. People like that director or those supposedly Irish students, will only make themselves unhappy and confused. They will wear ill-fitted clothes and never come to terms with why they think they way they do. I am not suggesting we reject foreign ideas or avoid reading French literature (learning a language really is access to a new way of thinking), but that we should seek out works that may bore us in the way cabbage does. Of the many reasons to read national literature or study English philosophy and history, one of the best is that you begin to realise yourself in these people. A philosophy is often just an expression of a national mindset. When you read JS Mill or Hobbes, you might discern attitudes or prejudices that you may have. You may realise that your thoughts are not so original. Characters and situations from our lives are found in the novels of Austen or Trollope. I have never met a Dickens character in real life, but I have met several people who were Dickensian in nature. We can grow from this sort of learning; we are humbled by it.

People of this nation, as is the case for most western countries, like to see themselves as modernists, alienated from the past, but that is not true. They are the products of the past. That is beautiful, not to be whimpered over. We are a part of a narrative (England, European) that we barely realise in the present, but perform unconsciously. TS Eliot captures my feelings on the subject:

Thus, love of a country
Begins as attachment to our own field of action
And comes to find that action of little importance
Though never indifferent. History may be servitude,
History may be freedom. See, now they vanish,
The faces and places, with the self which, as it could, loved them,
To become renewed, transfigured, in another pattern.

The best modernists, Eliot, Joyce, Mann, understood that one shpuld not run away from the past but should question it, work out what it means, and embrace what may come of it. It is the only way we can progress ourselves beyond our thoughts and feelings. If we avoid history, we may come up with a novel perspective, we may receive a cult following, but it will be a temporary existence. We will be, to quote Eliot again, messiahs only for a generation:

“It is fatally easy, under the conditions of the modern world, for a writer of genius to conceive of himself as a Messiah. Other writers, indeed, may have had profound insights before him; but we readily believe that everything is relative to its period of society, and that these insights have now lost their validity; a new generation is a new world, so there is always a chance, if not of delivering a wholly new gospel, of delivering one as good as new. Or the messiahship may take the form of revealing for the first time the gospel of some dead sage, which no one has understood before; which owing to the backward and confused state of men's minds has lain unknown to this very moment; or it may even go back to the lost Atlantis and the ineffable wisdom of primitive peoples. A writer who is fired with such a conviction is likely to have some devoted disciples; but for posterity he is liable to become, what he will be for the majority of his contemporaries, merely one among many entertainers. And the pity is that the man may have had something to say of the greatest importance: but to announce, as your own discovery, some truth long known to mankind, is to secure immediate attention at the price of ultimate neglect.” After Strange Gods

Man must come to terms with who he is. He must seek what has come before him. His living will never changes, but his intellect and knowledge can influence and help him understand.

The nationalist instinct has never been too vocal (not to say explicit. We had an empire) in England. Think of a couple days ago when people celebrated Burns Night. Robert Burns was a great poet, deserving of his national stature. But who is England's national poet? Do we have Burns Night or Bloomsday? We have never felt the need. Our national poet is Shakespeare, a man of a world following. We have not needed days of celebration, which are often bad replacements for religious holidays and expressions of insecurity. People of good health do not need cheering up:

“I know from life and from history something you have not thought of: often the outward, visible, material signs and symbols of happiness and success only show themselves when the process of decline has already set in. The outer manifestations take time - like the light of that star up there which may in reality already be quenched when it looks to us to be shining at its brightest.” - Thomas Mann, Buddenbrooks

Victims of our own success. It is a bad cliché, but it is true. We have never needed a Bloomsday or Burns Night. Personally, I found it quite embarrassing to celebrate holidays like that. I like Burns, I love Ulysses and Shakespeare, but I do not need a day to celebrate them. Great art inhabits my heart and speaks to my mind every day.

But then, many people need reminding of their country’s individual glory...



I think there is two types of men that our country has produced: there is the cultural Englishman, which is a natural product of a mostly English history, and then there is the civilisational Englishman, which stems from a liberal tradition and is artificial. Among them number: Joseph Conrad, VS Naipaul, George Santayana, Nabokov, Jorge Luis Borges, Fernando Pessoa, Schopenhauer, and Tocqueville. These men would not consider themselves English, but they would happily live (as some did) here because they saw England as the finest export of liberty. It is quite a cosmopolitan attitude, very intellectual, and unable to be produced on a mass scale. Most people hate freedom, struggle to understand its value, and prefer to join hands with the nearest army of the night for their thrills. The political liberty of any country is always a brief experience, and the individualist's fate is to be a nomad, burrowing his home in whatever dirt he can find. These might be the 'British Values' that our politicians speak of, but the English are not ideas, but people, with homes and souls and the right to breathing space. In the end, they are worthy of the choice to decide their own fate, whatever it may be.
 
Last edited:
@Magnificus's #1 Student : I do hope you enjoy your time here. I don't know where you are studying but I would recommend,if you can getting up to Bridlington for a weekend. His nibs and I went there a couple years back and got to see dolphins off the coast. It was really special and I would totally recommend it. We had a lovely time.

Also York is wonderful if you get a chance to see it. The minster is really something.

Has anyone listened to this? It's the recording of an interview with Mark Collett from Patriotic Alternative anf some goon from the BBC recently. Long and short of it is, dude from the BBC is all "butbutbut your members use hurtynastymeanie words" and Collett slapping him down.
If you needed any proof that the BBC despises you, then this is it.
 
this would exclude the royal family which is amusing. of course the English have a long tradition of being ruled by continentals
I am more than happy to see all the royals put on boats and sent away. Literally zero issue at all. I despise the throating that some people in this country give to the royal family. The beloved queen presided over the single largest downturn of the nation in its history; went to bat again and again to all the of useless brownoid slime that shuffle off boats, and her spawn seems to be on track to do the same.

There is no divine right of kings, there is no magic blood that they possess; they should serve a function, and if they do not serve that function they should be cut off like the tumours that they are.
 
We had the greatest Empire that the world had ever seen. How on earth do you top that?
New Intergalactic British Empire under God-Empress Anne

@Chunky Salsa what about people of mixed heritage, British and non-British? Does William get to stay because he's Married to an actual British person?
 
Back