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Should be a wild four years.

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Fuck Bankers said:
There's no proof in this link. They just say that it is. DeepSeek is Open Source I can know what's in it. OpenAI's higher level models aren't. How did the Chinese get the higher level code to "copy it". Also they aren't making any money off it, other than to advertise their quants? This reeks of the US government covering their ass. Hopefully this will spurn change in higher education to make it more affordable and less time consuming. Taking classes just for the credits is a way to milk the American student. Both of time and money.
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You could try reading the link. They didn't copy the code, they ran ChatGPT many millions of times to provide data for their own code to analyze. You don't need ChatGPT's code when you can take ChatGPT's results and do machine learning off those results. It's like taking a high test distillate and refining it further to a higher test instead of refining crude to the higher test all the way yourself
Enoch Emery said:
You can literally look at the source and run it on your own computer with no connection to the outside world. Huge cope and seethe.
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Muh open source has nothing to do with it, stupid. Of course you need a connection to the outside world anyway or the data available for the code to analyze will only be their latest update the last time it was connected

Wait, do you really think I'm saying DeepSeek is plugging into ChatGPT every time you run it? :story:
 
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I've been hearing word from several sources that ICE has been telling Navajo tribe members to prove their citizenship. Most seem to be reported by left wing sources but I wonder if it's just Trump Derangement Syndrome or if Trump is really that power mad.
 
Breadbassket said:
How would this effect the people who do not have $250k in assets but work for the individuals who do? Think of the labor market.
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Guest workers. The problem we have now is that we allow poor people to have civil rights. This is insane. Asking people who don't have meaningful assets to have a say in economics or entitlements makes as much sense as asking a drunk to watch over liquor store.

It's the entire reason the US is in the mess it is. Being poor is a lifestyle choice, no different than being fat or gay. Yet for some reason, poor people believe their lifestyle choice should be funded by the nation. It's insane.

There is literally not a current problem that isn't fixed by deporting the poor.
 
Breadbassket said:
What kind of alternative to asylums do you think would be ideal?
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Put them in a cell buried deep undergroubd with a canister of cyanide gas which will only release if a random number generator reaches a certain number. Food and water and entertainment supplied. No cameras and nobody is allowed to look inside. Schrodingers schizo.
 
Fuck Bankers said:
There's no proof in this link. They just say that it is. DeepSeek is Open Source I can know what's in it.
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people say this all the time. have you ever actually audited the code of any program you use? i'm not saying it's bad to have it be open source, but i know that the vast majority of people who use programs that are open source still don't check the code for funny shit. it's usually somebody who gets very interested for one reason or another who dives in later on.
 
Fuck Bankers said:
There's no proof in this link. They just say that it is. DeepSeek is Open Source I can know what's in it. OpenAI's higher level models aren't. How did the Chinese get the higher level code to "copy it". Also they aren't making any money off it, other than to advertise their quants? This reeks of the US government covering their ass. Hopefully this will spurn change in higher education to make it more affordable and less time consuming. Taking classes just for the credits is a way to milk the American student. Both of time and money.
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thank you for explaining this better than I can right now

sometimes explaning high level tech to people who only have a cursory understanding of how a computer works feels like trying to teach a 3rd century roman how to plug walk, it just dosent compute and im reminded of the quote from mark twain

"Never argue with a moron, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
 
draggs said:
You could try reading the link. They didn't copy the code, they ran ChatGPT many millions of times to provide data for their own code to analyze. You don't need ChatGPT's code when you can take ChatGPT's results and do machine learning off those results. It's like taking refined distillate and refining it further to a higher test instead of refining crude to the higher test all the way yourself
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How is that any different from a programmer using Microsoft Copilot? MIT and Google were bragging about this very thing two years ago. Was it "fair" for Europeans to take gunpowder which the Chinese used for fireworks and put it in a metal tube to launch a ball?
The military shouldn't use it because some moron will pass sensitive data to the Chinese. But it is a good AI model. Hopefully our industry can learn something from this.
 
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StudMccool said:
thank you for explaining this better than I can right now

sometimes explaning high level tech to people who only have a cursory understanding of how a computer works feels like trying to teach a 3rd century roman how to plug walk, it just dosent compute and im reminded of the quote from mark twain

"Never argue with a moron, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
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You are the living embodiment of the dunning-kruger effect. Or fifteen. Or both. I haven't decided yet.
 
MetokurGroomedMe said:
people say this all the time. have you ever actually audited the code of any program you use? i'm not saying it's bad to have it be open source, but i know that the vast majority of people who use programs that are open source still don't check the code for funny shit. it's usually somebody who gets very interested for one reason or another who dives in later on.
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I know some python. As in I've written a few (very small) games in python. I've done even less in C++ with raylib. I'm speaking more ontologically, that I can know one thing, but I can't know another.
 
NSA Intern said:
You are the living embodiment of the dunning-kruger effect. Or fifteen. Or both. I haven't decided yet.
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buddy, you are... special and I dont have all the time to explain why your take on AI is correct but lacking nuance.

how about this, I read your article and its good, they seem to skip over the fact we have a HUGE source of data we can provide AI LLMS with to turn them into an AGI within a year and I think trumps in the process of it, simply let them tap into all humans text conversations

im talking about private text message conversations, force telecom company's to comply with it then allow the models to process that data

will take a year maybe more, not sure exactly how much throughput they can offer them with new texts constantly happening.
 
Trump has not finished his dastardly plan of messing with Petro, WaPo revealed that massive fuck up was because Petro was unsupervised, when people on the government finally noticed was happening they went and told him to shut up, even his own party got mad at him because they did not want to go down with him when his approval is on the toilet, his party had to eat the L that was Alvaro Uribe his main adversary with people in the government that cutted Petro out of the negotiations with Washington that fixed his mess

Of course this been latin america the rats are noticing the sinking ship and parties have already started to abandon Petro coalition of political parties


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Petro way to own this? fuck up the electoral committee right now to rig the election next year because he is predicted to get eviscerate
 
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