Off-Topic Transgender Legislation and Litigation

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I think things like Planned Parenthood are, by their nature, somewhat accustomed to operating without the benefit of government support.

You're kidding me. What do you think Medicaid is? What do you think Title X is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood#Funding

Planned Parenthood receives over a third of its money in government grants and contracts (about $528 million in 2014).[89][88] By law (Hyde Amendment), federal funding cannot be allocated for abortions (except in rare cases),[90] but some opponents of abortion have argued that allocating money to Planned Parenthood for the provision of other medical services allows other funds to be reallocated for abortions.[66]

 

[CrazyUrbanist]

You're kidding me. What do you think Medicaid is? What do you think Title X is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood#Funding

Sounds like I'm significantly wrong and uninformed. I have vague memories of PP being a continual target of Republican congressional ire for most of my life, and being chased out of some states, so I've always assumed it relied mostly on (blue) state money and private donations to operate, or at least has in the past.

In theory, they could try to go without federal funding entirely- this seems impossible and mostly pointless, but there's probably some smaller organizations out there that don't have any federal strings and will escape this EO for now. That's what makes liability so interesting to me- there won't be any way around this if no doctor will prescribe the controlled substances they want for fear of a lawsuit a decade later.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Hoofuckingray !!!

That's probably the most important nail in the troon coffin so far.

What's great about these orders is that it ends the "no debate" since a lot of this shit was snuck in via the backdoor. Want to argue for it being "essential healthcare"? Go ahead, but now you do it openly. I'm going to guess the Democrats won't go in batting for this one in the near future...

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Tired of winning yet?

CrossFit Games announces a new policy requiring athletes to compete in the division matching their birth SEX “universally and with NO EXCEPTIONS.”​

In a significant policy shift, CrossFit Games has implemented new rules requiring athletes to compete in divisions matching their birth sex, marking a reversal from its previous inclusive stance toward transgender athletes.

The organization’s latest rulebook, updated January 20, 2025, states that athletes must “register and compete in the gender division corresponding to their gender assigned at birth” throughout all competition stages, including the Open, Community Cup, Semifinals, In-Person Qualifying Events, and Finals.

This marks a dramatic change from CrossFit’s 2019 position when then-CEO Greg Glassman announced at an OUTWOD event that transgender athletes could participate in the division matching their identity. At that time, Glassman had declared, “CrossFit believes in the potential, capacity, and dignity of every athlete. We are proud of our LGBT community, including our transgender athletes, and we want you here with us.”

The new policy allows for rare exceptions only in cases of disorders of sex development (DSD), also known as intersex conditions, which will be evaluated individually. Otherwise, the rules specify that no exceptions will be granted, regardless of legal, medical, or personal documentation reflecting a different gender identity.

This development follows a complex history of transgender participation in CrossFit competitions. In 2014, transgender athlete Chloie Jonsson filed a discrimination lawsuit after being denied the right to compete as a woman. The case, which was settled out of court, highlighted CrossFit’s previous stance through their legal response, which emphasized genetic advantages.

The policy change puts CrossFit at odds with various other sporting bodies, including the International Olympic Committee, which has established guidelines allowing transgender athlete participation under specific conditions.

The announcement has sparked discussions within the CrossFit community, particularly given the organization’s previous efforts to build bridges with the LGBTQ+ community, including a $10,000 donation to OUTWOD from the CrossFit Foundation in 2019.

As this policy takes effect, it represents one of the most stringent approaches to gender division classification in major sporting competitions, with its universal application and limited exceptions policy.

https://calfkicker.com/crossfit-games-announces-a-new-policy-requiring-athletes-to-compete-in-the-division-matching-their-birth-sex-universally-and-with-no-exceptions/

 

[Surfin Terf]

I’ve got double TDS, Trump Derangement Syndrome and Tranny Derangement Syndrome, but Trump beating the trannies might cure me of both of these

 

[Nero Fiddled]

Going after states that screwed over good parents. I don't understand the latter bit though.

I think the reference to the Parental Kidnapping Prevention Act is seeking to prevent a parent taking their child to be trooned out when the other parent disagrees - there have been a few of those going on over the last few years.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

ROFLMAO at "difficult to enforce."



An alleged "expert" and "medical researcher" relying on Tony Reed's fan fiction blog.

 

[Nero Fiddled]

An alleged "expert" and "medical researcher" relying on Tony Reed's fan fiction blog.

"Jack Turban is a psychiatrist who researches the mental health of transgender youth"

I think he might need to start a bit closer to home.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

ROFLMAO Tony Reed and Fat Dumb Gay Al hit maximum retard!




From Snaggle Tooth's fan fiction blog. (Tony truly is one of the dumbest assholes on planet earth). This is what happens when Tony publishes his delusional word vomit without talking to actual knowledgeable, competent, qualified subject matter experts first.

I would also note that Tony is a really bad writer, because he labels various sections of this as "the most alarming of all" until you get to the following section that is purportedly more alarming than the section before.

 

[Stan]

Why trans is seen as their biggest victim out of all minority groups is beyond me.

Democrats like to focus on Id pol of various stripes (racial, sexual orientation, troonery) because it sets them apart from the GOP and positions them as a champion of the downtrodden without having to take a meaningful stance on the class struggle.

Dems can’t talk about class struggle without pissing off their corporate mega donor overlords (who are ok with DEI faggotry, but not with socialism or Marxism), or pissing off their party bosses (privileged ivory tower types who don’t actually want to share power with dirty plebs no matter what they say.)

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Who is ready for some more winning?

No more troonery in public schools!



Ending Radical Indoctrination in K-12 Schooling

How about one more great big dose of winning to help wrap up your day in a positive way?

 

[UncleTusky]

Sounds like I'm significantly wrong and uninformed. I have vague memories of PP being a continual target of Republican congressional ire for most of my life, and being chased out of some states, so I've always assumed it relied mostly on (blue) state money and private donations to operate, or at least has in the past.

PP receives government funds but that money all goes to non-abortion services like mammograms and one of the conditions of the funding is that none of it can go towards abortions. Given how touchy abortion is I would expect PP's accounting here to be solid - even the appearance of taxpayer funded abortions could result in large cuts to federal funding or restrictions so onerous it has no choice but to stop taking the money.

If Trump goes ahead with a blanket ban on federal funds for gender treatments the most likely outcome would either be cordoning off gender treatments into a division that doesn't interact with gov't money or just ending those treatments altogether - hormone scripts are very unlikely to be more lucrative than federal subsidies for legitimate treatments.

 

[CrazyUrbanist]

If Trump goes ahead with a blanket ban on federal funds for gender treatments the most likely outcome would either be cordoning off gender treatments into a division that doesn't interact with gov't money or just ending those treatments altogether - hormone scripts are very unlikely to be more lucrative than federal subsidies for legitimate treatments.

The part I was focusing on was this:

[...] immediately take appropriate steps to ensure that institutions receiving Federal research or education grants end the chemical and surgical mutilation of children.

... which goes beyond merely refusing to fund child transition, to (the implication of?) refusing to fund any institution that touches it. That's a much stronger threat to force total divestment across the board, directly funded or not.

On the other hand, I'm not sure PP would fall under "research or education grants" in the first place. Section 5 is a bit broader and simply tells the Secretary of HHS to "take all appropriate actions" against child transition in general, which could conceivably imply the same kind of threat if PP takes HHS money, but then the rest of the section doesn't really suggest that reading. It's possible PP could slip through this EO entirely, but this is probably where I should give up trying to interpret this and leave it to the lawyers to figure out.

 

[quaawaa]

Removing federal funding from hospitals with "gender clinics" will kill transsexualism overnight. No medical facility will give up the massive amount of money they get from Medicare and Medicaid to support troons.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Full text of the reply to professional tranny known as "Pissed off Lawyer"

"We think you’ve gone and fvcked us all over because you couldn’t settle for being treated like everyone else, that’s how. No, you had to be the center of attention, and to validate your own delusions by sterilizing and mutilating other people’s kids, and removing them from their homes. You also destroyed women’s safe spaces, ruined women’s sports, got women raped and murdered, and gave the schools the power to lie to parents about the physical safety of their own children.

Now the backlash is coming, and instead apologizing for dragging all of us down with you - because that is absolutely what you are doing - you’re desperately and despicably trying to pin the blame on gays and lesbians who have never wanted anything more than to be tolerated and left the fvck alone to live our lives.

Your inappropriate, entitled, and predatory behavior has provoked such overwhelming, incredulous disgust that people who didn’t mind gays - or even trans people - a decade ago now can’t wait to shove us all back in the closet and lock the door forever.

And who can blame them? You’ve done an excellent job of ruining the reputation of the entire LGBT community, and of destroying every last bit of the progress that took decades of careful, deliberate inoffensiveness, and respect for the boundaries and values of the rest of society to achieve. Thank you so much.

We spent fifty years trying to show straight people that we aren’t just a bunch of degenerate freaks who can’t wait to convert their children, that we don’t want to tear up the social fabric, or spit on their values, and what do you do?

You march down streets chanting 'we’re coming for your children'; you force your way into women’s spaces in order to sexually exploit both the spaces and their female occupants; you convince millions of children that they’re 'born in the wrong body,' and need hormones and surgery in order to be themselves - not because you care about their wellbeing, of course, but because you think that the existence of so-called 'trans kids' validates the claims of trans-pretending adults; you demand that that all of society change its definitions of man and woman, male and female, sex and gender, boy and girl; you insist that everyone cater to you, lie to and for you, and put you on a pedestal as the sacred Victim Caste; you demand the perversion of science, you threaten and even attack women at their own events, you urge violence against women at yours, and you commit all manner of perverse, deviant, and unbelievably disgusting sexual acts in women’s spaces — which you film, and then upload to the internet so that the whole world can see how incredibly fvcking sick you are.

In short, you come along and bring every fear and every homophobic stereotype they’ve ever believed to loud, demanding, rainbow colored life. You separated mentally unstable children from their parents, preventing them from getting real therapy, and some of those children _died_ — how the fvck did you think people were going to react to that?

And now you don’t even have the decency to admit what you’ve done; instead you’re trying to pin this on the people who spent the last decade doing everything we could to undo the damage you have caused, and to stave off the catastrophic results of your unhinged, entitled, predatory actions. If we do get through the next four years without losing the right to marry, or hell, the right to be openly gay, it will be entirely due to the people you deride as 'fascist bootlickers' — the same people who got you your rights in the first place, you ungrateful, greedy gang of petulant children — and their unceasing efforts to mitigate the cataclysm that you have unleashed upon us all with your insanely selfish behavior. * Oh, yeah - and stop claiming to be Romani, you ridiculous, hysterical, culturally appropriative pathological liar. We’ve had this discussion, and I’ve got the receipts — you’re about as much of a Romani as you are a man. #LGBWithoutTheT"

 

[Nobody Important]

You ever notice that if you look at it upside down, a “T” looks a lot like a boat anchor?

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Kate Strangio wants to file a frivolous lolsuit




Winning!!!!

"Montana Republican lawmakers advanced a bill Wednesday over Democratic opposition that would subject parents and medical providers to criminal penalties if they help transgender minors obtain health care treatments for gender dysphoria.

The legislation, Senate Bill 164, is one of several strategies Republican lawmakers in Montana and other states have advanced in recent years to prohibit transgender minors from receiving medical treatments that help align their appearance with their gender identity.

The effort, widely opposed by transgender people, their families and major U.S. medical organizations, has become a cornerstone of GOP politics in Montana and nationwide.

The current version of the proposed legislation passed by the Senate Judiciary Committee on a 6-3 party-line vote would expand Montana’s child endangerment statute to make an adult criminally liable if the person “knowingly procures or provides” puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones or surgical procedures to youth under the age of 16 “for the purpose of altering the appearance of the child or affirming the child’s perception of the child’s sex when the appearance or perception is inconsistent with the child’s biological sex.”

The bill, sponsored by Sen. John Fuller, R-Kalispell, would apply to adults “whether or not the person is supervising the welfare of the child.”

Some of the lawmakers who endorsed the legislation Wednesday said it would help curb the specifically listed medical services for minors who cannot legally consent to health care treatment. They did not reflect on the bill’s repercussions for parents directing other types of medical care for their children.

“I believe that any life-altering decision should not be made by, or to the effect of, a child under 16,” said Sen. Sue Vinton, R-Billings..

Criminal liability bill for parents of trans minors advances in Montana Senate

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Go for it Tony. I am sure that chimping out at hospitals will TOTALLY work out in your favor.

What do you think about another round of WINNING folks?

Removing Gender Ideology and Restoring the EEOC’s Role of Protecting Women in the Workplace

 

[UncleTusky]

.. which goes beyond merely refusing to fund child transition, to (the implication of?) refusing to fund any institution that touches it. That's a much stronger threat to force total divestment across the board, directly funded or not.

My first instinct is there might be a way to keep doing it if they created a separate subsidiary for gender treatments only and kept everything (facilities, money, personnel) separate from the rest of Planned Parenthood. This is an unusual setup for a healthcare nonprofit but common for government contractors, especially ones on cost-plus contracts - color of money is so important and so convoluted there that isolating the parts of the company which have to deal with it is good business sense, not fraud.

That said not an attorney, not an accountant, just a layperson who has been in the splash zone for this bullshit.

Montana Republican lawmakers advanced a bill Wednesday over Democratic opposition that would subject parents and medical providers to criminal penalties if they help transgender minors obtain health care treatments for gender dysphoria.

The legislation, Senate Bill 164, is one of several strategies Republican lawmakers in Montana and other states have advanced in recent years to prohibit transgender minors from receiving medical treatments that help align their appearance with their gender identity.

The effort, widely opposed by transgender people, their families and major U.S. medical organizations, has become a cornerstone of GOP politics in Montana and nationwide.

It's amazing how entitled this all is - Montana's bill does not prohibit talk therapy for dysphoria. Nor does it prohibit mental health practitioners for treating common comorbidities like depression or eating disorders. This is consistent with treatment guidance in (checks notes) much of Central and Western Europe, with parts of Australia starting to get the hint as well. Given how much troons like to complain about America and Trump you'd think they'd realize almost every other country on Earth has even less tolerance for their grooming-disguised-as-medicine.

 

[Nero Fiddled]

Kate Strangio wants to file a frivolous lolsuit

Well I guess it makes sense to stick to what you know...