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Should be a wild four years.

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It would be far more expensive to pull this off than just building massive space stations. Look at the danger of building subs alone, just in the last couple years we had a retarded billionaire kill several people, Oceangate, just by diving down too far in a pressure vessel constructed mainly of carbon fiber layers. It was a shitty design for it's task, sure, but if you shot that thing into space it wouldn't even be able to fail as spectacularly. The ISS has had leaks going on for years now from the ancient Russian (mostly late soviet tech) modules keeping the lights on, and yet they're just able to keep operating by cordoning off the worst of it. If a submarine developed a hole like that you'd have a good chance of just dying instantly, being crushed by a metric asston of water replacing the air filled space. Now imagine a bioshock underwater city starting to crack.
Not mention, if we equalized the pressure of the living area to that of the surrounding water (to reduce pressure put on the hull of whatever vessel) it would take weeks for people to slowly de pressurize enough to go back to the surface.
 

Week One inside Trump’s DOJ: ‘It feels like a non-violent war’

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Fear reigns among the staff at the beleaguered law-enforcement agency as a new reality sets in.
Career lawyers and staff at the Department of Justice say the rush of changes in the first week of the Trump administration make them feel like they’re under siege.

President Donald Trump’s acting attorney general fired more than a dozen prosecutors who worked on the criminal cases against Trump, reassigned senior personnel across major divisions and dramatically shifted workplace rules — all in a matter of days.

Even as the moves followed through on vows Trump made on the campaign trail to remake the department under his vision, the swift action still took staffers by surprise

“It feels like a non-violent war. It’s just wild. Everybody’s a sitting duck and these people have no power or control over the situation,” said one DOJ career employee. “People are just in a state of shock and devastated. It’s unlike anything I’ve ever seen … Nothing that happened during the first Trump administration came anywhere close to this.”

POLITICO spoke with more than a dozen current and former DOJ officials for this article, most of whom were granted anonymity because of fears of potential retribution.

Trump’s blanket pardons of Jan. 6 rioters, which wiped out years of work, demoralized some already anxious staff. So did the sharp shifts in DOJ’s prosecution policies, including a broad halt to litigation by Justice’s Civil Rights Division. But employees say the firings of more than a dozen attorneys who worked for special counsel Jack Smith, the transfers of veteran national-security prosecutors and a call by a Trump appointee for Jan. 6 prosecutors to turn over their files for special review have been more disruptive than any policy changes.

Trump officials’ early decision to reassign top career leaders of the National Security Division and the Criminal Division to less desirable jobs has fueled much of the concern. Among the officials given 15 days to accept a reassignment: the department’s most senior career official, Associate Deputy Attorney General Bradley Weinsheimer, and the head of the Public Integrity Section, Corey Amundson, according to a person familiar with the moves.

Those officials and others were offered slots on a newly formed team aimed at combating sanctuary city policies, but at least some are expected to turn down those offers and leave the department. Amundson has already decided to do so, the person familiar with the developments said.

The firings Monday, which don’t appear to have included any offers of reassignment, upped the tension further.

“It’s got to be among the most demoralizing moments in the history of the Department of Justice,” said one former DOJ career official. “It is a flat-out purge of individuals who this administration must view either of suspect loyalty or have worked on matters they just did not like. … We are in the early phases of what to me is just looking like a wholesale politically inspired demolition of the Department of Justice in key places.”

Acting Attorney General James McHenry, who is running the department temporarily while Pam Bondi awaits Senate confirmation, ordered the firings of the prosecutors who worked on the special counsel’s team. A Justice Department official said McHenry “did not believe these officials could be trusted to faithfully implement the President’s agenda because of their significant role in prosecuting the President.”

Several employees also said new personnel policies like the Trump administration’s demand that employees come to the office five days a week has done as much to fuel the sense of turmoil among lawyers and others at DOJ as any of the shifts in enforcement priorities. Some flexible work arrangements put into place during the pandemic are nearly five years old, and rolling them back has complicated the lives of many employees, especially those with young children.

Government-wide directives the administration issued calling on agencies to “identify all employees on probationary periods” have led to some panic among DOJ personnel who’ve been at the agency for less than two years and lack most civil service protections.

“It’s the probation announcement that has people completely terrified,” said the career staffer. “There are a lot of question marks around some of these programmatic shifts, but there are not really question marks with respect to some of these fundamental employment issues.”

Fear has also set in among prosecutors who handled cases against more than 1,500 people charged in connection with the riot at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. They already saw their work undermined and abandoned by the pardons Trump gave to nearly everyone convicted.

However, their sheer numbers could be an obstacle to significant retribution. Hundreds of Justice Department attorneys from across the country, including many who rarely get involved in criminal matters, picked up Jan. 6 cases in what DOJ says was the largest prosecutorial and investigative effort ever undertaken by the department.

“Obviously, they can’t fire everybody,” the former DOJ career official said.

At the FBI, a directive from the Justice Department’s acting No. 2 official, Emil Bove, to redirect the nation’s roughly 200 Joint Terrorism Task Forces toward immigration enforcement is rankling some agents who fear being called out the next time a terror plot in the making is missed.

“The FBI and DOJ do not have infinite resources to do infinite things,” said Chuck Rosenberg, a former FBI chief of staff. “That is why, for the last quarter century, they have prioritized national security work. There are genuine and dangerous counterterrorism and national security threats out there and we divert resources from them — and sideline experienced career professionals — at our peril.”

Another former FBI official with extensive experience managing the task forces, which typically include federal, state and local law enforcement, said the DOJ move opens the FBI to being second-guessed the next time a major act of terrorism takes place, such as the truck attack that killed 14 people on New Orleans’ famous Bourbon Street on New Year’s Day.

“You take your eye off the ball for the more concerning type of a threat — whether domestic terrorism, international terrorism, homegrown violent extremism or foreign-inspired plots,” said the ex-official, who asked not to be named because of his current employer.

“That’s a lot of work to be done solely focused on the threat of terrorism. To pull people and split their time — there is criticism already of the FBI for miscues related to the Boston bombers and whether they missed things going on in New Orleans,” the former FBI official continued. “You are taking valuable resources and dedicating resources from targeting the highest priority threats to the country to something that’s not nearly the threat.”

Also roiling the waters at DOJ are a series of unusual public comments by the new acting U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C.: Ed Martin. In a provocative social media post last week, he endorsed Trump’s pardon of two D.C. police officers convicted of conspiracy to obstruct justice in connection with the death in 2020 of a suspect they were pursuing. A jury also found one of the officers guilty of second-degree murder.

“Hear me loud and clear: we will stand with the Blue against the thugs and scum who terrorize DC,” Martin wrote on X. “Today, I spoke with the MPD chief of police 3 times about protecting the Blue. Under Biden, they chose politics over police. I choose police. Free these guys and let’s go get the bad guys.”

Many law enforcement officials opposed the prosecution and the Metropolitan Police Department issued a statement welcoming the pardons, but some former prosecutors said Martin’s comments appeared to endorse a gloves-off approach to policing.

“A lot of people with little or no experience in law enforcement or criminal prosecution often think the solution is to empower violent or lawless police officers,” said Brendan Ballou, who resigned from the Justice Department last week after handling Jan. 6 cases. “My sense is that that is completely counterproductive and, frankly, betrays a certain lack of experience on the part of people saying that.”

Martin’s remarks echoed controversial calls by Trump for more aggressive tactics by police. Months into his first term, Trump urged police to stop treating suspects so kindly. “Please don’t be too nice,” he implored. And at a rally during his last campaign, Trump said “one real rough, nasty” and “violent day” of police targeting criminals would “immediately” wipe out crime.

Some former officials also said Martin’s inflammatory rhetoric is likely to backfire on prosecutors, as judges look at the government’s claims with more skepticism and give more leeway to defense lawyers making arguments that police were abusive or corrupt.

“You know that very good defense attorneys are going to turn this against the office,” one former federal prosecutor said.

In another attention-grabbing move, Martin tangled publicly with a federal judge in Washington last week, taking to X to accuse him of overreaching in ordering that several Jan. 6 defendants whose sentences Trump commuted stay away from the Capitol. The judge, Amit Mehta, backed down Monday, while evincing some irritation with Martin’s approach.

“Some people apparently equate sounding tough with effective leadership, but effective leaders think and talk in serious and sophisticated and thoughtful ways,” Rosenberg said. “This ain’t that.”

Despite the current turmoil, there seem to have been only a smattering of departures so far by career lawyers.

“Every government employee in moments like this needs to decide where they can best do the right thing,” said Ballou, who wrote a New York Times op-ed last week denouncing Trump’s pardons. “For some, that’s by staying inside government or by leaving and leaving noisily. And I thought I could be most effective by leaving noisily.
 
OMB M-25-13 is being rescinded.


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OMB M-25-13 was the one pausing $$$. Looks to have been a bit too broad.

Temporary Pause of Agency Grant, Loan, and Other Financial Assistance Program
Worth noting that this rescinds the memorandum sent by the office of management and budget, not the executive order. That still stands and is much narrower in scope than the memo ended up being, even with the clarification of a subsequent memos.

edit: I have been cougared multiple times in just the 60 seconds it took to write this....
 
I know everyone's celebrating the SSRI callout, but this is playing directly into big pharma's hand. They've been moving away from SSRIs for a few years now and have started pushing ketamine as this new miracle cure for any and all neurological issues. This isn't some victory for us, this is them following the Big pharma playbook and it shows that they're all just puppets. The Dems are controlled opposition while RFK is being used to usher in this new era.
Maybe so, but until then the Democrats have chosen this as yet another slightly elevated piece of land to die on.
 
Funding freeze has NOT been rescinded. Only the OMB memo has been rescinded. Or something.

WH Press Secretary:

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From what I understand, she means the EO is still in effect, but that this specific OMB memo on how to implement it has been rescinded. I think it was too broad and looked like it was going to hit some things that wouldn't be popular.

This is the EO I believe: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presiden...ful-government-dei-programs-and-preferencing/

EO Text
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:


Section 1. Purpose and Policy. The Biden Administration forced illegal and immoral discrimination programs, going by the name “diversity, equity, and inclusion” (DEI), into virtually all aspects of the Federal Government, in areas ranging from airline safety to the military. This was a concerted effort stemming from President Biden’s first day in office, when he issued Executive Order 13985, “Advancing Racial Equity and Support for Underserved Communities Through the Federal Government.”


Pursuant to Executive Order 13985 and follow-on orders, nearly every Federal agency and entity submitted “Equity Action Plans” to detail the ways that they have furthered DEIs infiltration of the Federal Government. The public release of these plans demonstrated immense public waste and shameful discrimination. That ends today. Americans deserve a government committed to serving every person with equal dignity and respect, and to expending precious taxpayer resources only on making America great.


Sec. 2. Implementation. (a) The Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), assisted by the Attorney General and the Director of the Office of Personnel Management (OPM), shall coordinate the termination of all discriminatory programs, including illegal DEI and “diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility” (DEIA) mandates, policies, programs, preferences, and activities in the Federal Government, under whatever name they appear. To carry out this directive, the Director of OPM, with the assistance of the Attorney General as requested, shall review and revise, as appropriate, all existing Federal employment practices, union contracts, and training policies or programs to comply with this order. Federal employment practices, including Federal employee performance reviews, shall reward individual initiative, skills, performance, and hard work and shall not under any circumstances consider DEI or DEIA factors, goals, policies, mandates, or requirements.


(b) Each agency, department, or commission head, in consultation with the Attorney General, the Director of OMB, and the Director of OPM, as appropriate, shall take the following actions within sixty days of this order:


(i) terminate, to the maximum extent allowed by law, all DEI, DEIA, and “environmental justice” offices and positions (including but not limited to “Chief Diversity Officer” positions); all “equity action plans,” “equity” actions, initiatives, or programs, “equity-related” grants or contracts; and all DEI or DEIA performance requirements for employees, contractors, or grantees.


(ii) provide the Director of the OMB with a list of all:


(A) agency or department DEI, DEIA, or “environmental justice” positions, committees, programs, services, activities, budgets, and expenditures in existence on November 4, 2024, and an assessment of whether these positions, committees, programs, services, activities, budgets, and expenditures have been misleadingly relabeled in an attempt to preserve their pre-November 4, 2024 function;


(B) Federal contractors who have provided DEI training or DEI training materials to agency or department employees; and


(C) Federal grantees who received Federal funding to provide or advance DEI, DEIA, or “environmental justice” programs, services, or activities since January 20, 2021.


(iii) direct the deputy agency or department head to:


(A) assess the operational impact (e.g., the number of new DEI hires) and cost of the prior administration’s DEI, DEIA, and “environmental justice” programs and policies; and


(B) recommend actions, such as Congressional notifications under 28 U.S.C. 530D, to align agency or department programs, activities, policies, regulations, guidance, employment practices, enforcement activities, contracts (including set-asides), grants, consent orders, and litigating positions with the policy of equal dignity and respect identified in section 1 of this order. The agency or department head and the Director of OMB shall jointly ensure that the deputy agency or department head has the authority and resources needed to carry out this directive.


(c) To inform and advise the President, so that he may formulate appropriate and effective civil-rights policies for the Executive Branch, the Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy shall convene a monthly meeting attended by the Director of OMB, the Director of OPM, and each deputy agency or department head to:


(i) hear reports on the prevalence and the economic and social costs of DEI, DEIA, and “environmental justice” in agency or department programs, activities, policies, regulations, guidance, employment practices, enforcement activities, contracts (including set-asides), grants, consent orders, and litigating positions;


(ii) discuss any barriers to measures to comply with this order; and


(iii) monitor and track agency and department progress and identify potential areas for additional Presidential or legislative action to advance the policy of equal dignity and respect.


Sec. 3. Severability. If any provision of this order, or the application of any provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be invalid, the remainder of this order and the application of its provisions to any other persons or circumstances shall not be affected.


Sec. 4. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:


(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or


(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.


(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.


(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.


THE WHITE HOUSE,


January 20, 2025.

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Huh.... legitimately less cucking than I expected from the administration. I wasn't even going to be that mad if they backed off on this one and tried to regroup.
This is them backing off to regroup. They need to go back and have the OMB figure out how to implement the EO again. I don't think this is a huge deal though.
 
Has Warren always been this fucking insufferable?
In a word: yes.
@Hey Johnny Bravo SCHOLARS PLEASE RESPOND.

This very sneaky woman trying things that didn't work, while losing her shit in the process.

"You're essentially asking me to not sue pharmaceutical companies."

"NO I AM NOT!" Said Warren calmly, and not at all defensively.

The next one is funny.

"Are you a conspiracy theorist?"


"The difference between a conspiracy and a truth is six months." - RFK Jr. 2025
Elizabeth Warren was a Harvard Law professor for years. Famously, her husband got a teaching position there and she did not in her first round of job applications. She applied a second time and it's something of an open secret that she used her fake status as a Native American to get it. By all accounts, she was a good teacher at Harvard Law but decided to get into politics when Scott Brown's seat was up in 2012. Brown famously defeated Martha Coakley after Ted Kennedy died in 2009; Coakley's entire platform was "I'm a Democrat, vote for me" and she did fuck all in terms of campaigning.

Scott Brown is no towering intellect. I know people who went to law school with him. All the law school girls thought he was a hunk, but he was not a good lawyer (Brown was literally a male model). However, in the 2010 special election, Brown ran an actual campaign. Voters were offended by Coakley assuming her election was in the bag. Massachusetts is not California: citizens there have some spit in their eye and expect a little gimme-gimme from their elected officials. Coakley was also Attorney General and assumed her name would get her to where she needed to go (Maura Healey, the current Massachusetts governor, worked for Coakley's office as the chief civil rights counsel).

Edit to add here: Brown defeating Coakley was one of the biggest electoral upsets in Massachusetts political history. To this day, if you bring up the fact that Scott Brown was the Massachusetts senator for 2 years, Democrat programming will kick in and they'll start having a conniption. Try it sometime, it's funny.

That was a special election in 2010 meant to have a sitting senator for the remainder of what was Ted Kennedy's term. Then the 2012 election came up and Elizabeth Warren capitalized entirely on the Occupy Wall Street momentum, talking a huge game about holding corporations accountable and so on. This is on top of the media and financial blitz meant to unseat a Republican senator of Massachusetts. All the lefty OWS shit you can imagine, Warren said and promised. Since then, Warren has been pretty pants-on-head stupid. Her legislative record is paltry compared to her colleague, Senator Ed Markey (who is actually a really nice guy despite being a lifelong Democrat machine politician).

Where Warren shines and the reason they keep her around - even though she reminds you of every shrill, entitled, self-serving, arrogant, and pedantically stupid schoolmarm you ever had - is because she's a master fundraiser. She raises a ton of money for the Democrats, she does it all above board, and even though she is a fucking eyesore and annoyance to people like us who see her act like a petty cunt on TV, she is well-liked in Congress. She's not a mean person and doesn't mistreat others, or her staff, like other members of Congress do (at least that's the scuttlebutt I hear). She is also more willing to work with Republicans than a lot of other Democrat senators and has pushed bipartisan bills with people like Ted Cruz.

Warren will never make it to higher office because you could call her a cunt and she will start stuttering. She's from fucking Oklahoma and has zero grit. I think she's a safe seat, though, because she usually provides red meat to her constituents. Ed Markey is going to die in office (he's 78 and does not make a lot of appearances) and you're likely to see some Boston City Councilor (or the queen bitch herself, Michelle Wu) run for the seat. It will not be filled by a Republican - there are more Republicans in the state house of California than in Massachusetts. It's a true uniparty state.
 
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SO what this a scare tactic, a retreat, or a way to see if it would work before trying something new? Cause watching the people freak out was a good time but Republican have to understand that unless they cut off NGO they are funding the Dems to the tune of billions.
It prevented the state sponsored rioting for almost two weeks
 
the peak basedness in this one sentence alone, holy shit :story:
I abridged what he actually said, but it was more or less that. He said he was right about Covid shit, right about dyes, and I dare say he'll go on to continue being right about other health "conspiracies."

It's 2025, baby! Year of the Schizotheorists!
 
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Don't agree about the jobs at three-letter agencies, having been stationed at one. Nearly all those jobs require high-level clearances, which not everyone can get. In some cases people are polygraphed before they can even get into the building to start work, from personal experience.
Polygraphs don't detect lying, they detect people feeling guilty over lying. Which is why passing one indicates your suitability to work for the CIA.
 
It might've been a bargaining chip to get RFK and Tulsi in given the timing. Show that you can freeze all the funding and then tell them it'll keep happening until they vote enough for the cabinet spots.
Could well be. This is also the time for the new Administration to throw stuff against the wall, see what sticks, see how loud people complain. They have now found a weak point for later exploitation. Suggest millions and millions of taxpayer dollars could be saved this way.
 
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