Disaster American Airlines Flight Collides With Blackhawk Helicopter Over DC - Several videos shared online showed footage of the collision and the aftermath of the crash.

An American Airlines passenger plane crashed into the Potomac River after colliding midair with a black hawk helicopter over Ronald Reagan International Airport in Washington, D.C., the Federal Aviation Administration announced Wednesday (January 29) via CNN.

Several videos shared online showed footage of the collision and the aftermath of the crash.



BREAKING: American Airlines Flight 5342 has collided with a UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport. The military aircraft, identified as PAT25, is believed to be a Priority Air Transport mission, typically designated for VIP transport operations.



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This never would have happened if the Chopper pilot was troon.

Meanwhile, the commander in chief says "Why didn't the helicopter go up or down?" Reeeeeeeeal savvy and insightful stuff from the CIC there, right up with sweeping the leaves in California's forest.
 
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Death of an Ego said:
You know, threads like this are why I have a hated love for A&N. They're still pulling the bodies out of the river, and some want to use the corpses as a fucking political football like it's all a vast game or some shit. Fucking sickening.

I think it's far past time that I give this place a rest for a while. It's great that you can say more or less what you want to here, but it's really not a good place to read every day. it's getting to me, so I'll see all of you sometime in the future. I've become so fucking desensitized and misanthropic from this little corner of the internet that I'm very close to doing what a couple of others have done and just offing myself.
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Don’t blame Kiwifarms. This is one of the sanest discussions I’ve seen online. Social media and the 24/7 news cycle is making people deranged.

I don’t mean this in a derogatory way but if you can’t hack it then just log off. Buy a dumb phone if you need to. Keep your iPhone in a drawer. You only get one life and this is it.
 
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Chan the Wizard said:
Say what you will, but Trump, as president, posting like a senile boomer “why didn’t the helicopter just go up?” is kind of funny. I was worried things would change once senile boomer Biden left but I’m comforted to know I was wrong.
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And since this is clown world we live (suffer?) in, the eventual report will probably conclude with "yeah they shoulda just flown up lol"
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Is it normal for a military helicopter to be flying around the runways of a commercial civilian airport? At high speeds as well.
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As some retard tourist to D.C. in the past I've always seen police or some fed agency choppers flying real low near or over monuments. Remember seeing a police OH-6 flying right over the tidal basin when I was walking out of the Jefferson Memorial one time. Since it's the nation's capital they probably get more leeway than they already do everywhere else.
 
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I'm going to with the logical and most probable answer: stupid fucking helicopter pilot. He didn't see a clear-as-a-bell plane with blaring lights and flew straight into a known runway approach right after he was ASKED to visually look for the giant flying fucking hunk of metal with 1,000 watt lights all over it.

How the fuck can you possibly miss that right after you were told by ATC to LOOK for it? Unbelievable.
 
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MadStan said:
Meanwhile, the commander in chief says "Why didn't the helicopter go up or down?" Reeeeeeeeal savvy and insightful stuff from the CIC there, right up with sweeping the leaves in California's forest.
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He's presumably thinking of a TCAS resolution advisory, which in two normal aircraft would indeed have been telling one to go up and one to go down.

However it seems that military training flights are allowed to just raw-dog it over the nations capital at night, right through a fucking runway approach: The "why?" is something I've pondering for a while. I'm sure someone, at some point(s), put forward a nicely worded argument about muh security and muh cost as to why safety systems & procedures shouldn't apply to the military, but the down side to this is that - as demonstrated - you stop them applying to everyone else, too.

TCAS has been around for 30 years, so every administration from Clinton onwards gets a share of blame for this clusterfuck.

Edit: Apparently TCAS doesn't give you directions under 1,000 feet (which I guess is reasonable) but it should have been yelling at them for about 30 seconds prior to impact.
 
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Stationary aszs said:
When we discuss accidents and incidents inside the industry, we refer to the swiss cheese model. Meaning in every flight, or really anything in life, there are bubbles of risk that are always present. Our job is to mitigate risk, by making sure the holes in the swiss cheese don't all line up so the accident goes through the cheese, so to speak. There were many holes in this cheese, from five people all looking the wrong way at the worst time, a tired crew, a stressed controller, a circling approach, a routine day that lowers your awareness and lulls you in to a false sense of security. This is the first real accident since 2009 in Buffalo, which was the end of another regional airline, Colgan. The NTSB will be all over this, the end of the safest streak in aviation history, in the safest part of the world for flying. Americans don't die in plane crashes...
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I am curious to see what provisions are actually brought out from this. Once this is all over I do expect some blame or recommendations to fall squarely on the natgaurd to do better. Or at the very least not do this sort of stuff. Procedures around DCA will likely change and more than likely more measures will be brought in to try and curtail this. A lot did go through the swiss cheese model, it is sad dozens of innocents had to die for rule changes to be made, but most rules in aviation are written in blood.

Is it ok to generally ask how the sidestep approach from 01 into 33 is at night? Clear conditions like what has happened, I am just wondering if the pilots may have not been looking due to the higher cockpit workload of needing to visually set themselves up for final once off from the ILS.

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Doesn't this usually set off alarms within the tower once the CA warning is up? Maybe it differentiates airport to airport but I assume north america has a set standard ATC software or system they use.
 
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Twitter's on the case, and has determined the crash was a false flag possibly caused by time traveling aliens.
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I did not expect this crossover but I appreciate it. It was aliens. Ancient Aliens.

Why the fuck would the US Chair Force train their newbie pilots to fly above an airport? Why not train tank drivers in a busy intersection too?

-Junior Chopper Pilot Tyrone da thurd: Durrrrrrrrrrrr, lets circle around the airport, muffugas!
-Trainer Crashjeet Flyshit: Saaaar that is great idea. Keep doing good works, I will do needful off side of heliplane saaar.
 
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Ugh Call To Activism are lunatics. But why on earth would removing DEI have caused this? The intention of DEI is to prize diversity over competency in its barest essence.

Wasting no time at all like the ghoulish vultures they are, Call To Activism initially posts this, then just minutes later posted this,

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(“Sending positivity” and they mock others for saying “thoughts and prayers”)
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I’m starting to agree with what some people have posted earlier. Until we learn more, this is the freakiest of freak accidents and seems intentional. Maybe some idiots playing chicken, maybe no reason at all.
 
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Dagoth AMOGUS said:
Ugh Call To Activism are fucking lunatics. But why on earth would removing DEI have caused this? The intention of DEI is to prize diversity over competency in its barest essence.

I’m starting to agree with what some people have posted earlier. Until we learn more, this is the freakiest of freak accidents and seems intentional. Maybe some idiots playing chicken, maybe no reason at all.
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Someone let the retarded newbie try flying and he fucked up.

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Our greatest DEI program is our military. Beyond the top brass and the skilled trades and technicians within, the bottom 60% are diversity hires that are utter failures, and usually fail after leaving the military too. My bet is this helicopter pilot was near the bottom of his class.
 
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I am just wondering if the pilots may have not been looking due to the higher cockpit workload of needing to visually set themselves up for final once off from the ILS.
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Pilots in the plane were in a left hand bank to line up: The chopper would have been out of sight even if they were looking for it.
The pilots in the chopper were presumably looking at another plane. Or were just fucking retarded.
 
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MadStan said:
I'm going to with the logical and most probable answer: stupid fucking helicopter pilot. He didn't see a clear-as-a-bell plane with blaring lights and flew straight into a known runway approach right after he was ASKED to visually look for the giant flying fucking hunk of metal with 1,000 watt lights all over it.

How the fuck can you possibly miss that right after you were told by ATC to LOOK for it? Unbelievable.
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It was actually a trainee pilot according to the U.S. military. (archive)
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I dunno if this is better or worse than if it was just some dumb fuck.
 
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