Youtube General thread (formerly Youtube Censorship discussion thread)

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Smithfield Ham said:
First it was no ads.
Then it was one add.
Then it was multiple ads.
Now we're at a point where there's more fucking ads than cable TV.

and every year they make record profit, so this isn't done out of desperation. It's done because they think they'll get away with it.
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Honestly, I'm surprised google hasn't banned ad blocks in their browser at this point.
 
I still remember when Lego Movie 2 came out and the entire 2 hour first movie was an ad. So this is nothing new to be honest.
 
MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
So I'm curious, lets say all the ads were for actual products and not scams like Coca-Cola or Apple Jack cereal, would you hate ads as much?
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If it was just normal add policy and regulated like normal TV ads, with limitations how much ad time is allowed per X minutes of video played and then also regulated when the ads can be shown, made sure the audio is properly normalized so I don't get 20db louder ads than my video sound, then I would consider using youtube with ads.

But 3 minute videos with 30 sec of ads (even if one can be skipped) are just not ok.
TV in Germany has had rules how much ad time per 60 minutes of content is allowed, Youtube is working around that by making the ads "skipable", which still interrupts the show. In addition the random ad interruptions are not happening in good locations of a video, but often interrupt a sentence or happen in the middle of a scene.

Ads have a multitude of issues that all contribute to them being fucking obnoxious and annoying.
Google is making billions selling our userdata anyway, they can fuck right off accessing my computer and trying to circumvent my ad-block. They are already being sued for this in Europe because it violates data laws.
 
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LifeAlert said:
"Fuck, another 9 hour ad! There's no way in hell I will pay for their bullshit subscription service, but I refuse to watch another second of this crap. What do I do?"

Internet browsers:
-Brave: https://brave.com/
Chromium-based, Brave is available on all commonly used platforms, including Windows, Mac, Linux, iOS, and Android

-LibreWolf: https://librewolf.net/
Privacy-focused fork of Firefox, basically the Firefox version of Brave. No mobile version exists yet

Browser extensions:
-uBlock Origin: https://ublockorigin.com/
LibreWolf/Firefox version: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/
Also, remember to enable and update all filter lists in the extension settings

-AdNauseam: https://adnauseam.io/
Designed to waste advertiser money and keeps score of how much money advertisers have wasted on you. However it conflicts with other adblockers including Brave Shields. I couldn't get it to work on Brave, but it works on LibreWolf without much hassle

Android (phones, TV, etc.)
-SmartTube: https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube
This one is perfect for Android TV/Fire Stick devices, but it doesn't work well on phones or tablets if you're using the touch screen.

-NewPipe: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/
Perfect for phones and tablets. Also works on Android TV devices but navigation can be cumbersome.

-Firefox on Android supports extensions, including uBlock Origin

iOS
-If your device is not jailbroken, Brave Browser or DuckDuckGo Browser are your only options. Otherwise you will have to look into DNS or network-wide adblock options
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Thank you for the list.
 
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Niggergante said:
Years ago, I remember not realizing my mom had Youtube on the TV and there was a fucking half hour long ad for a hair loss remedy. Everyone was already doing something else and I only noticed after wondering why the music stopped after 5 or so minutes. Thankfully it was skippable, but that shit apparently has only gotten worse.
Adblock bros stay winning.
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I had a similar thing when I was watching a YouTube vid on Discord with a friend through Watch Together. He got no ads while I received an hour long video about 2 dudes talking about banks and crypto.
 
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the rat said:
They will lose money either way. It's a miracle that Google still allows YouTube to continue on despite how much of a fucking money sink it is for them.
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There's clearly an ulterior motive. Youtube is one of if not the largest Skinner box there is.
It also helps that YT continues to exist as the "free speech alternative to TV" in the heads of normies, so it's very convenient to push narrative through.
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used_a_throwaway said:
There's clearly an ulterior motive. Youtube is one of if not the largest Skinner box there is.
It also helps that YT continues to exist as the "free speech alternative to TV" in the heads of normies, so it's very convenient to push narrative through.View attachment 6921258
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I'm gonna be honest. I thought the term came from vidya games with skin-based microtransactions because it was a black box that sold skins.
 
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Smithfield Ham said:
First it was no ads.
Then it was one ad.
Then it was multiple ads.
Now we're at a point where there's more fucking ads than cable TV.

and every year they make record profit, so this isn't done out of desperation. It's done because they think they'll get away with it.
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Tbh this has been a personal win for me. Pajeet actively shitting up the site with increasingly length unskippable ads and recommending garbage AI slop videos has reduced my screen time by a quarter. My phone has gone back to being a mere MP3 player and SMS machine.

I’ve actually begun to appreciate books and nature. Even saving up for an entry-level DSLR for a photography project. That being said I truly fear for Gen Alpha and Beta.

I’ve seen parents pacify kids with iPads slowly but surely frying their neurons at the age of 2 watching 5 videos split across the screen simultaneously. Hell hop on the Teachers subreddit and you can see numerous complaints of these kids being somehow less tech illiterate than children of the 90s and 2000s.

For all the shit millenial parents talk about those dang dirty conservative boomers at least they didn’t stunt their children’s brain cells with low-IQ ai ads churned out by a Vietnamese slave “prompt engineer”
 
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I remember there was a point where Disney wanted to get people watching the show Amphibia, so they literally put out an entire 22 minute episode of it as an ad in YouTube to trick kids watching in the tv app into thinking it was the show they where watching,
extended ads like this are especially insidious because many parents who let YouTube raise their kids think they’re “better” than others by holding on to the remote. They’ll put on some coco melon playlist and ignore the tv, which will eventually subject the child to what will now be an hour long ad,
Yes the parents are awful, but YouTube is straight up evil
 
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I'm firmly in the 'accident' camp. Here's the dirty little secret about YouTube. Boomers are leaving it endlessly running it in the background as the new cable news. It runs on most Smart TVs and best of all, it's free! They don't even need to make the ads unskippable. All they need to do is have endless videos queued up to autoplay, all of which have endless ad breaks throughout. The only reason it makes sense for the algo to throw a thirty minute ad at you is if they reasonably suspect the device is in such a state where it will be continually playing, but will not be interacted with by the user. Whether this is the user driving, the user doing chores or some other activity that requires them to leave the phone somewhere, or the user is in a medicated applesauce coma in their comfy chair, makes little difference. The entire point is that these ads can have the ability to skip them right there, but they won't. Forcing the matter will only make users turn off their screen, because no one in their right fucking mind watches 30 minutes of ads for a 49 second clip of Batman Arkham City.

That being said, Total Advertiser Death.
 
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The handsome tard said:
Yep

*drops quarter into the "Holy shit, we're getting old" jar*

At this rate I will be able to retire soon
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I have recliner with a laptop stand for oldies. That toddler you babysat in 1998?
First grader you tricked with YouTube screamers, Rotten.com among other really good shit, now lost to time.

Thank God for Newpipe and Tubular.
Never ever use account bound OS like Windows with ad blocking browser.

Does anyone miss the times internet was all dial up and copper? Return to tradition
 
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Chuck McGill said:
I'm firmly in the 'accident' camp. Here's the dirty little secret about YouTube. Boomers are leaving it endlessly running it in the background as the new cable news. It runs on most Smart TVs and best of all, it's free! They don't even need to make the ads unskippable. All they need to do is have endless videos queued up to autoplay, all of which have endless ad breaks throughout. The only reason it makes sense for the algo to throw a thirty minute ad at you is if they reasonably suspect the device is in such a state where it will be continually playing, but will not be interacted with by the user. Whether this is the user driving, the user doing chores or some other activity that requires them to leave the phone somewhere, or the user is in a medicated applesauce coma in their comfy chair, makes little difference. The entire point is that these ads can have the ability to skip them right there, but they won't. Forcing the matter will only make users turn off their screen, because no one in their right fucking mind watches 30 minutes of ads for a 49 second clip of Batman Arkham City.

That being said, Total Advertiser Death.
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Doesn’t yt stop autoplaying after like 1h of inactivity?
 
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