US Trump to Hit Canada, Mexico With 25% Tariffs on Saturday - Canada, Mexico tariffs threaten to upend auto, energy sectors.

President Donald Trump said he would follow through on his threat to impose 25% tariffs on imports from Canada and Mexico on Feb. 1, citing the flow of fentanyl and large trade deficits as among the reasons for his decision.

“We’ll be announcing the tariffs on Canada and Mexico for a number of reasons,” Trump told reporters Thursday in the Oval Office as he signed executive actions in response to a deadly airplane collision.

“Number one is the people that have poured into our country so horribly and so much. Number two are the drugs, fentanyl and everything else that have come into the country. Number three are the massive subsidies that we’re giving to Canada and to Mexico in the form of deficits,” he said.

West Texas Intermediate oil futures climbed above $73 a barrel following the comments. The US dollar wiped out an earlier loss to touch the day’s high after the remarks, while the Canadian dollar and Mexican peso both plunged. US Treasuries pared their gains.

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US President Donald Trump
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Trump indicated the 25% rate could represent a floor, saying that the tariff levels “may or may not rise with time.”

But the US president did suggest he was still considering if one significant import — oil — would be exempted. Trump said would be making a determination as soon as Thursday evening, basing his decision upon the price of oil.

“We don’t need the products that they have. We have all the oil that you need. We have all the trees you need,” Trump added, referring to major imports from Canada.

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Trump’s move was closely anticipated by markets as well as global business and political leaders who have scrutinized his words and actions for any indication on whether the US president would deliver on his levy threats or use them as the starting point for negotiations on trade.
Trump in recent days threatened and then pulled back on tariffs against Colombia in a dispute over deportations of undocumented migrants, leading some to speculate that he was using trade levies merely as leverage to seek policy concessions.

China Tariffs​

Trump also indicated that he would proceed with tariffs on China. He didn’t specify the levy, though he’s previously said it would be 10%. Trump has said Beijing failed to follow through on promises to prevent fentanyl and the chemicals used to make the deadly drugs from flowing into the US.

“With China, I’m also thinking about something because they’re sending fentanyl into our country, and because of that, they’re causing us hundreds of thousands of deaths,” Trump said Thursday. “So China is going to end up paying a tariff also for that, and we’re in the process of doing that.”

Trump has ordered his administration to investigate whether China complied with a trade deal struck during his first term, setting the stage for tariffs against the world’s second largest economy.

Following through on tariffs against Canada and Mexico, who are US neighbors, major trading partners, and export markets, threatens to have dramatic economic consequences, rattle markets and potentially launch a trade war by undermining protections from a three-nation free trade agreement.

Both countries have pledged to respond to any trade levies, including with retaliatory tariffs, even as their leaders sought to assure the US they were addressing border concerns in a bid to defuse the conflict.

“If these tariffs go into effect, Canada will respond,” Canadian Ambassador to the US Kirsten Hillman said Thursday. “This is not something that we want to do. We do not want to get into a tariff-back-and-forth with the United States. It’s not good for Canada, Canadians and Canadian workers and it’s not good for the United States, Americans and American workers.”

Hillman said that Canada has responded to Trump’s concerns about the border by clamping down and announcing new security measures, including added drones and helicopters.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau visited Trump at his Mar-a-Lago resort even before the president was inaugurated in a bid to ease tensions between their nations, and Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum spoke to Trump to try to avert the levies.

In the first 11 months of 2024, US trade with Canada totaled $699 billion and $776 billion with Mexico. And the magnitude of tariffs Trump will enact could have stark impacts on particular industries, such as the auto industry and the energy sector. Shares of US automakers Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Co. turned negative on the announcement, erasing earlier gains.

“President Trump’s tariffs will tax America first,” Matthew Holmes, executive vice president at the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, said Thursday.

“From higher costs at the pumps, grocery stores and online checkout, tariffs cascade through the economy and end up hurting consumers and businesses on both sides of the border. This is a lose-lose.”

Further Levies​

Trump is also promising sectoral tariffs, such as on pharmaceuticals, semiconductor chips, steel, aluminum and copper, which could apply widely to many countries, including Canada and Mexico.

The US president is an avowed believer in tariffs, saying they will force a renaissance in domestic manufacturing, though industry groups warn that it will upend supply chains and endanger existing factories by raising costs of source materials.

He’s hailed tariffs as a source of revenue as lawmakers move to renew and expand expiring tax cuts and approve other credits and benefits the president promised on the campaign trail. Trump wants to reduce the corporate rate to 15% for firms that manufacture goods in the US, compared to the current 21% rate.

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I support the idea of using tariffs to encourage American manufacturing but there is going to be a pain period where there are higher prices due to tariffs because American industry hasnt grown to compensate for the change in demand, which will suck for a bit.
It will suck for his entire term. Manufacturing plants don't spring up very quickly (safety regulation is just one hurdle I'm familiar with, but there's more) and staffing them is even harder, especially if the country doesn't have a well of slave labor to tap into.
 
It will suck for his entire term. Manufacturing plants don't spring up very quickly (safety regulation is just one hurdle I'm familiar with, but there's more) and staffing them is even harder, especially if the country doesn't have a well of slave labor to tap into.
So you're saying that American industry will not at all expand to meet the changed demand?
 
So you're saying that American industry will not at all expand to meet the changed demand?
Probably not. I believe most of these industries can remain solvent longer than the American people can survive without food on the shelves (and when it gets there it's 4x more expensive.) If the plan is to trvst the plvn until we have replacement industry in place, you'll just end up with about 360 million skeletons.
 
Probably not. I believe most of these industries can remain solvent longer than the American people can survive without food on the shelves (and when it gets there it's 4x more expensive.) If the plan is to trvst the plvn until we have replacement industry in place, you'll just end up with about 360 million skeletons.
So there is nothing we can do to bring manufacturing back?

I agree that it will take a few years for new plants to be built and apropriate amounts of blue collar workers to be trained. There is some excess capacity in manufacturing plus there are probably plenty of shuttered factories that would need the tools and workers, but would probably provide a quicker turn around. Though, this isnt my area of expertise.

I cant imagine Trump would do something pants on head retarded like raising tarrifs (and the cost of goods) without a pay off. He has always been pretty reasonable on the economic issues.
 
Probably not. I believe most of these industries can remain solvent longer than the American people can survive without food on the shelves (and when it gets there it's 4x more expensive.) If the plan is to trvst the plvn until we have replacement industry in place, you'll just end up with about 360 million skeletons.
If TSM can get a top of the line semiconductor plant up and running within 4 years, despite the shitty hurtles and regulations, then I'm pretty sure others can too. Besides, Trump is also offering a carrot along with the stick, with lessening the regulations and lowering corporate tax.
 
I believe most of these industries can remain solvent longer than the American people can survive without food on the shelves
Over 90% of American food is grown right here in America and the other 10% is shit you could very much live without produced in countries that have not, aside from brazil, been threatened with tariffs.
I don't know where the idea that we import that much food comes from but it is retarded. Our per-capita production is more than 3000 calories per day.
 
The current doomposting I see from your average facebook lib is that this lead to Canadian power companies shutting down energy for Americans in the north, leading to millions freezing to death.
I may be a retard, but I don't see that ever happening.
If that happens then we invade Canada and seize the power plants. I mean, it's fucking Canada. Ten guys with poverty pony AR-15s can take an entire province.
 
Probably not. I believe most of these industries can remain solvent longer than the American people can survive without food on the shelves (and when it gets there it's 4x more expensive.) If the plan is to trvst the plvn until we have replacement industry in place, you'll just end up with about 360 million skeletons.
I don't think it's unreasonable to ease tarrifs on companies and countries that can be seen making a good faith effort to comply. While factory jobs are waiting, construction jobs are still being created. The American labor market is not so expensive that it justifies leaving it or attempting to wait out tarrifs while your competitors profit.

Inflation being driven by American laborers being paid a fair wage and not being driven down by foreign labor is extremely different than inflation driven by the government printing infinity money to send overseas.
 
Number one is the people that have poured into our country so horribly and so much
I'm reminded of Roxham Road and people flooding into Canada from America.
Number three are the massive subsidies that we’re giving to Canada and to Mexico in the form of deficits,
This from the man who negotiated the USMCA trade agreement. If this is such a huge issue why did he not better address it during negotiations?
 
There will be a last second deal but it'd be kinda funny if there weren't
There won't, not with this happening after the near continuous meetings and discussions Canadian officials in particular have been holding since December. The fact Trump keeps bringing up the trade deficit is also enough indication that something is being slapped on imports - it's only a question of how far ranging the tariffs will be.
 
I don't know where the idea that we import that much food comes from but it is retarded. Our per-capita production is more than 3000 calories per day.

I think people are saying that it can only be harvested with slave labor.

Less than 1% of illegal immigrants are in agricultural jobs. Most ag workers are here on temporary work permits. It's stupid but there's a huge trend on social media where people claim everyone's going to starve without illegal labor working to pick the fields at below-market wages.
 
Over 90% of American food is grown right here in America and the other 10% is shit you could very much live without produced in countries that have not, aside from brazil, been threatened with tariffs.
I don't know where the idea that we import that much food comes from but it is retarded. Our per-capita production is more than 3000 calories per day.
The United States is the world's largest net exporter of food crops.

The idea that we'd all starve if shithole nations started waving their cocks around is propaganda by reddit Communists.

It's the other way around.
 
From higher costs at the pumps, grocery stores and online checkout, tariffs cascade through the economy and end up hurting consumers and businesses on both sides of the border.
I've never heard anyone actually explain how these tariffs will increase prices or otherwise economically harm Americans

Sounds like corporate PR bullshit at best

The idea that lower taxes on citizens are "le bad fashizm" has never really been explained and it seems like the only people being "hurt" are the corporations and billionaires who rely on cheap/slave labor to increase profits


It's stupid but there's a huge trend on social media where people claim everyone's going to starve without illegal labor working to pick the fields at below-market wages.
Democrats love slavery

These arguments are the same exact ones they made in the 1860s
 
Such theatre for his followers. Why I'm sure before Saturday Canada and Mexico will call the cartels and kindly ask for them to cease all imports, let Trump know, and he will back down.

Tariffs beget tariffs, and US Exporters are struggling. This is just such nonsense from Trump. I could do an entire page of quotes on the size of the tariffs, and on what day they were to be implemented and it is just laughable to take him seriously.
 
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