US Trump to Hit Canada, Mexico With 25% Tariffs on Saturday - Canada, Mexico tariffs threaten to upend auto, energy sectors.

President Donald Trump said he would follow through on his threat to impose 25% tariffs on imports from Canada and Mexico on Feb. 1, citing the flow of fentanyl and large trade deficits as among the reasons for his decision.

“We’ll be announcing the tariffs on Canada and Mexico for a number of reasons,” Trump told reporters Thursday in the Oval Office as he signed executive actions in response to a deadly airplane collision.

“Number one is the people that have poured into our country so horribly and so much. Number two are the drugs, fentanyl and everything else that have come into the country. Number three are the massive subsidies that we’re giving to Canada and to Mexico in the form of deficits,” he said.

West Texas Intermediate oil futures climbed above $73 a barrel following the comments. The US dollar wiped out an earlier loss to touch the day’s high after the remarks, while the Canadian dollar and Mexican peso both plunged. US Treasuries pared their gains.

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US President Donald Trump
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Trump indicated the 25% rate could represent a floor, saying that the tariff levels “may or may not rise with time.”

But the US president did suggest he was still considering if one significant import — oil — would be exempted. Trump said would be making a determination as soon as Thursday evening, basing his decision upon the price of oil.

“We don’t need the products that they have. We have all the oil that you need. We have all the trees you need,” Trump added, referring to major imports from Canada.

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Trump’s move was closely anticipated by markets as well as global business and political leaders who have scrutinized his words and actions for any indication on whether the US president would deliver on his levy threats or use them as the starting point for negotiations on trade.
Trump in recent days threatened and then pulled back on tariffs against Colombia in a dispute over deportations of undocumented migrants, leading some to speculate that he was using trade levies merely as leverage to seek policy concessions.

China Tariffs​

Trump also indicated that he would proceed with tariffs on China. He didn’t specify the levy, though he’s previously said it would be 10%. Trump has said Beijing failed to follow through on promises to prevent fentanyl and the chemicals used to make the deadly drugs from flowing into the US.

“With China, I’m also thinking about something because they’re sending fentanyl into our country, and because of that, they’re causing us hundreds of thousands of deaths,” Trump said Thursday. “So China is going to end up paying a tariff also for that, and we’re in the process of doing that.”

Trump has ordered his administration to investigate whether China complied with a trade deal struck during his first term, setting the stage for tariffs against the world’s second largest economy.

Following through on tariffs against Canada and Mexico, who are US neighbors, major trading partners, and export markets, threatens to have dramatic economic consequences, rattle markets and potentially launch a trade war by undermining protections from a three-nation free trade agreement.

Both countries have pledged to respond to any trade levies, including with retaliatory tariffs, even as their leaders sought to assure the US they were addressing border concerns in a bid to defuse the conflict.

“If these tariffs go into effect, Canada will respond,” Canadian Ambassador to the US Kirsten Hillman said Thursday. “This is not something that we want to do. We do not want to get into a tariff-back-and-forth with the United States. It’s not good for Canada, Canadians and Canadian workers and it’s not good for the United States, Americans and American workers.”

Hillman said that Canada has responded to Trump’s concerns about the border by clamping down and announcing new security measures, including added drones and helicopters.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau visited Trump at his Mar-a-Lago resort even before the president was inaugurated in a bid to ease tensions between their nations, and Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum spoke to Trump to try to avert the levies.

In the first 11 months of 2024, US trade with Canada totaled $699 billion and $776 billion with Mexico. And the magnitude of tariffs Trump will enact could have stark impacts on particular industries, such as the auto industry and the energy sector. Shares of US automakers Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Co. turned negative on the announcement, erasing earlier gains.

“President Trump’s tariffs will tax America first,” Matthew Holmes, executive vice president at the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, said Thursday.

“From higher costs at the pumps, grocery stores and online checkout, tariffs cascade through the economy and end up hurting consumers and businesses on both sides of the border. This is a lose-lose.”

Further Levies​

Trump is also promising sectoral tariffs, such as on pharmaceuticals, semiconductor chips, steel, aluminum and copper, which could apply widely to many countries, including Canada and Mexico.

The US president is an avowed believer in tariffs, saying they will force a renaissance in domestic manufacturing, though industry groups warn that it will upend supply chains and endanger existing factories by raising costs of source materials.

He’s hailed tariffs as a source of revenue as lawmakers move to renew and expand expiring tax cuts and approve other credits and benefits the president promised on the campaign trail. Trump wants to reduce the corporate rate to 15% for firms that manufacture goods in the US, compared to the current 21% rate.

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This mongoloid, typical of his breed, really thinks Europe, and Mexico, and Canada, are gonna join BRICS and cut off the US like it's North Korea or some shit :story: it's the funniest and dumbest leftoid fantasy of the last 50 years
Europe is more than to get back in bed with Russia just to spite Trump over Greenland, Panama Canal, natural gas, UN, NATO, Canada and his refusal to have America continue to eat their ass.
 
Canada should put a export tariff on potash to the US. Now that would be funny shit to see the outcome of.
 
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You have a very optimistic opinion of the Canadian government.
Saw something about them supposedly spending like $C1.3 billion on some border security and Trudy has had people visiting with Trump officials and talking to Homan about what they can do.

So they really have been trying to make some kind of effort even if people haven't noticed.

Back in December, Ottawa announced a joint “strike force” focused on transnational organized crime. That has since evolved into a C$1.3 billion plan with Black Hawk helicopters and high-tech surveillance.

LeBlanc has engaged with Trump “border czar” Tom Homan. “I couldn’t ask for a better conversation,” Homan told CTV News after their meeting. “Actions have to follow, but I’m very optimistic from the conversation I had that we’re going to come up with a good border security plan.”


 
Saw something about them supposedly spending like $C1.3 billion on some border security and Trudy has had people visiting with Trump officials and talking to Homan about what they can do.

So they really have been trying to make some kind of effort even if people haven't noticed.




3 Canadian government Ministers are in DC right now, got there earlier today, trying to get Trump to not sign off on the tariffs tomorrow. Guess Fidelito was smart enough to realize if he went himself there'd be no chance and the tariffs would go up to 50%
 
Europe is more than to get back in bed with Russia just to spite Trump over Greenland, Panama Canal, natural gas, UN, NATO, Canada and his refusal to have America continue to eat their ass.
Russia just said the BRICS aren't going for a new currency and has been generally trying to butter up Trump the way they never have anyone in modern history if not Russia's entire history. The chips may land where people least expect it.
 
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Canada’s Top 10 Exports​

The following export product groups categorize the highest dollar value in Canadian global shipments during 2023. Also shown is the percentage share each export category represents in terms of overall exports from Canada.

  1. Mineral fuels including oil: US$143.4 billion (25.2% of total exports)
  2. Vehicles: $63.7 billion (11.2%)
  3. Machinery including computers: $42.5 billion (7.5%)
  4. Gems, precious metals: $28.4 billion (5%)
  5. Wood: $13.4 billion (2.4%)
  6. Plastics, plastic articles: $15.5 billion (2.7%)
  7. Electrical machinery, equipment: $16 billion (2.8%)
  8. Aluminum: $12.6 billion (2.2%)
  9. Fertilizers: $9.5 billion (1.7%)
  10. Ores, slag, ash: $11.4 billion (2%)
Canada’s top 10 exports accounted for 62.7% of the overall value of its global shipments.

Am I retarded, or do the tariffs mean the stuff Canada produces is going to cost less for Canadians, because it's going to be less advantageous to export, so there will be more supply in Canada? I don't really care if the funny green economy line turns red if it means there's more and cheaper materials for houses, cheaper cars, cheaper Canadian-produced food, cheaper electricity, cheaper gas, cheaper natural-gas. What does this tariff mean for a normal guy?

Are some exporting businesses going to get skull-fucked and some investment guys on tv going to kvetch and that's it? Is Trump making Canada great again too? I only see people repeating the 25% number and that the import/export is unbalanced, but nobody is posting an analysis of why that's so scary.
 
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The typical canadian mongoloid response I see pop up frequently in this discussion is some variation of "WELL SHOW YOU WELL JUST TRADE WITH EVERYONE ELSE!!!". The problem with that is there is no other country in the world stupid enough to let a failed state like canada rape them for a 50-100 billion dollar trade deficit every year like they have been getting away with. Under Trump the US is no longer that country either.

Right now the US buys ~75 billion dollars more from canada than they buy from us every year. So Trump demands they even it up and they tell him to get fucked. They are smart, not like everybody says. They are smart and they want respect. So they call up Xi and ask him if he would like to buy 75 billion dollars more canadian goods than they are willing to buy chinese goods. After a minute or two he finally contains his laughter and offers them the generous opportunity to buy 75 billion dollars more chinese goods than he's willing to buy canadian. Of course since they are big boys who won't be pushed around, they've "cut off" the US and have no alternatives. So rather than accept an even fair deal from Trump, their pride has left them with no option but accept the same traderape type deal from China that they had been getting over on the US with for decades. Only they are on the receiving end this time.

Surely the jeets will swoop in and offer them a hundred billion dollar trade deficit and won't take advantage of their desperation. If not, there is always Bolivia. Maybe Cambodia can fill the gap.
Not to mention WE LITERALLY SHARE THE FUCKING BORDER WITH AMERICA. It is the only country we have a land border with. This whole thing is fucking retarded, we HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS.

But the elites don't care. Trudeau got his pension and he can ride this hell out in paradise while we starve.
 
Listen melon head, the thread doesn't get shit done unless its some two-bit country like Columbia no one gives a shit about and who we have very little trade with. It does matter if it is Mexico or Canada. You really think Canada and Mexico are going to spend billions on preventing drugs coming here? Nah. And if they tell trump they're doing something about it, it is a platitude designed to placate a big baby.

Also, in case you haven't been watching, prices have been elevated because futures contracts went up because there is good reason to believe tariffs are coming - so prices are already going up for consumers in the USA on certain goods even without the actual tariffs having gone into effect.

And if the tariffs do go into effect, prices go up. I don't know what fucking planet you are on where you actually want to see prices go up for the sake of national pride, but you need to get real. You're just the kind of imbecile that Trump appeals to where he can tell you "we're gonna make Canada, China and Mexico pay!" and its you that ends up footing the bill, wondering why prices went up and why the Fed decided to better not lower rates again.

Go back to school.
Sorry I lost interest in the argument and so I didn't read any of this! Lol!
 
Foxnews just posted an article saying BRICS will get 100% tariff unless they promise not to create a new currency. I'm sure they will tell Trump they won't; but this is suckers promise. Thats like threatening countries with a 100% tariff unless they promise not to go past 130% GDF debt - if they haven't done it yet then it's an easy promise to make. Why not demand they promise not to got to Mars while you're at it.

It is Saturday, are we placing bets on a blanket 25% tariff to Mexico and Canada, because I'll wager my KiwiFarms account it won't happen if there is someone else too who will wager their account it will.
 
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Canada should put a export tariff on potash to the US. Now that would be funny shit to see the outcome of.

The Canadian dollar is like worth 50% less than it did 10 years ago, a potash tariff would not amount to anything.

The problem with Canada is that while it's a resource rich country like Russia, however, Canada has replaced its British migrants with Indians, and it has the socially liberal politics of California.

Canada is an Indian economic zone run by liberal White Boomers. I could care less if this country burns, it's disgusting.

They're trying to replicate Indian economic zones in America with Vivek Ramaswamy and JD Vance. If Americans are not retarded, you should oppose this.
 
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Here are the export breakdowns for Canada and Mexico to the USA. My bet is when Trump lands the tariffs, over 70% of the values will be excluded, making it all the more pathetic as these two countries launch retaliation against industries in the USA that have nothing to do with this remaining 30% - like liquor etc.

Chances of blanket tariff - zero. He will chicken out.

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