Ziz / Jack Amadeus LaSota / Zizians / sinceriously.fyi - Vegan AI Singularity Doomsday Cult turned Tranny Manson Family. Implicated in at least 6 deaths.

Interesting group, some quick questions.
1. How many in custody, and how many still on the loose?
2. Does the authority of the cult lay in its leader or its idealogue?
3. If the leader was dealt with, would a new leader take its place?
4. From my basic review of the paper, it seems Leftist Based Accelerationism, I don't care for the rest of the mental illness justification, is that a good basic gestalt, or do I need to file it under something else?
5. Are they affiliated with any other known sects, how do they recruit and indoctrinate? Are there any current victims of indoctrination? What is their main reach and proxy?
6. (Optional) In their belief system, do they believe in Hell? Because this sort of thing damns you to Hell.
 
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SomeMindlessObserver said:
I'm going to have to substantially rework the diagram I'm keeping to document connections between these people. But, I think with what I have so far this could be the "eye" of Ziz:

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  • Ziz and Blank were arrested in the same PA hotel not too far from the double-homicide of Zajko's parents
    • (per PA state troopers, Zajko had a room in that hotel)
  • Ziz was in contact with Zajko per Zajko's blog post expressing fear for her life
  • Snyder and Bauckholt were in contact, per court documents
  • Ziz was possibly the person of interest with whom Youngblut was in contact (weaker)
  • Youngblut was in contact, or in concert, with Bauckholt (NC, VT) and Snyder (WA marriage cert, maybe Lakeside School in WA)
  • Ziz and Danielson were at one point boatmates, maybe lived together after that
  • Ziz was reportedly at the scene of the first Lind assault involving Borhanian, Leatham and Dao
  • Zajko is the owner of the guns found at the VT shooting involving Youngblut, Bauckholt
Let me know if I'm dumb or if I'm stupid, or if I'm cooking up.

(Edited to add the VT shooting guns as an obvious connection between Zajko and Youngblut/Bauckholt)
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Nice work. I didn't know Blank had been in the hotel room and was in custody. There are so many people and details.
 
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To further bolster your point (and undermine mine) the Aum even got to a point where they were training with fucking Russia. Doing military exercises & drills with the Russian military. [archive]
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They were mostly getting ripped off by Russian Mafia, who were way more interested in stealing their money, and realized fairly early on these people were dangerous lunatics. AUM tried to buy nukes from them, they did the equivalent of selling them a bunch of pinball machine parts like Doc in Back to the Future.
 
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In addition to other places, the Know Your Meme page is being updated and has a page for the "Zizian Murder Cult".
The page is being edited and updated, but an archive for the in-progress page can be found here https://archive.is/H1fRe

Data Secrets Lox, yet another spinoff off the Slate Star Codex discussion groups, has a thread of responses and reactions to the killings. This is another site full of Rationalist types, so this thread would be one to watch for more people who have direct knowledge and connections of the people and institutions making comments
Archive as of the time of posting, but the topic will get more posts over time, so check the live page first:

The Other McCain continues with another day's worth of coverage
 
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Borax Bozo said:
RW publishing Passage Press's chief Jonathan Keeperman (aka Lomez) had an on-camera discussion with activist Chris Rufo. Part of it went onto the topic of the Zizians and Rationalists more generally. That section was clipped out and is viewable here:
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christ, is his mom in on it or did she actually believe he was dead?
 
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Ziz's personal profile on LessWrong, the main online Rationalist hub, is here:
Most comments and posts are 6-7 years old.
Archived version is here, but note that LessWrong uses a fair bit of AJAX and the archive doesn't capture certain comments that get retrieved on-the-fly.
Comment screenshots as a stopgap:
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The major posts seem just to be cross posts from the original blog - one ("Mana") being all text, and the others as just bare links. Ziz seems to have been testing out getting comments from the LessWrong people.
 
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Large discussions on Hacker News about the Zizians:

"The Zizians and the rationalist death cult" (170+ comments)

"String of recent killings linked to Bay Area rationalist 'death cult'" (470+ comments)

I haven't read through all the comments (there's a LOT) but as Y Combinator is based in SF there's a good chance some of these commenters have met Rationalists or even the Zizians in person before
 
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Trumps EO could not have come at a better time with the way all of these troon spergs are finally showing the long-term effects of their estrogen-induced lobotomies. Won’t be surprised if more of these tranny cults start emerging just within the next year, this is gonna be a wild ride kek
 
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Great job detailing the crimes of these sick fucks, OP. Total Tranny Death truly can't come soon enough.

Since trannies are already working hard to become the most overrepresented demographic among school shooters and sex offenders, it was only a matter of time before the first tranny death cult emerged. If the authorities don't manage to catch all cultists in time and Zizians end up having their own Tate-LaBianca murder moment, I wouldn't be surprised.
 
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Now we have finally reached 60s and 70s levels of leftist radicalism I look forward to the much more successful counter bombings by the far right on the center left and center right exploiting it as applied pressure was it allowed pressure.
Also descartes would never even spit in these people's general direction use 100% correct when he says I think therefore I am.
 
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a couple more interviews by that Uncle Kenny guy:
Jessica Taylor (author of the "oh fuck I know these people" tweet) :

Adrusi (friend/acquaintance of Borhanian's :
(includes the worst attempts at explaining the Prisoner's Dilemma and Newcomb's Paradox you will ever hear)

666 INFOHAZARD WARNING 666: auto-transcripts are full of errors (Vallejo became "tallyho" at least once).
 

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Sargon's wife's son said:
no that guy should not be taken seriously he destroyed his own credibility when he started calling 2/3 of the United states population members of a cult for supporting Donald Trump.
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He's the only anti-cult person who cares to say "some of these trans groups are a cult."

So in this specific circumstance, he's a good fit.
 
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Borax Bozo said:
Data Secrets Lox
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That crowd is an older, more conservative part of the rationalist diaspora. The people there have virtually no connection to Bay Area rationalism besides having been regular commenters on Scott Alexander's blog at some point.

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In case it hasn't been posted yet:
Tumblr of Alexander Jeffrey "Somnulence 'Somni' Logencia" Leatham:
https://somnilogical.tumblr.com/

Latest Less Wrong thread:
 
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