Canada is a failed state

Since this seems to be the general Canada thread, I got some stuff from the Spacebattles Canada Thread of people who believe Trump is gonna invade and how they would fight back
Lmao love how the guy with the ATV is basically siegeposting talking about cutting down power lines with his Salzal
 
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Since this seems to be the general Canada thread, I got some stuff from the Spacebattles Canada Thread of people who believe Trump is gonna invade and how they would fight back
What’s even funnier than their delusion about getting invaded is that over half their country would likely welcome joining America
 
Jason Lavigne is a former PPC from Alberta turned ersatz journalist. Bruce Pardy is a well-known law professor & commentator. He writes for all kinds of publications, and currently works for the Fraser Institute. On Matt Ehret, I agree with your assessment. I never heard of this guy until about a month ago. He's now everywhere. His wife is a Chinese National, he was educated in Russia and seems to have a ton of pull all of a sudden
This is all I'm asking for, guys. I literally am disbarred from center-left to left circles because of my views. I am stuck with the Conservatives and we don't see eye to eye on everything but I understand very well how liberal ideology has had a very negative effect on Western society. But more often than not, there are so many extreme loud voices on the right saying some of the equally dumbest shit I've heard that isn't questioned because of the need to stick to "the cause" (whatever that may be at the moment). I'm asking for critical thinking.

In this instance, I don't disagree about Pardys credentials but that his views are not something I would personally respect. I question the motives behind the creation of this media by all of the individuals involved. However, I will hold no bias against the OP for posting it and respect their rights to a different opinion if they felt swayed by the presented information.

When I was growing up in the GTA, Breakfast Television had a segment with this guy who would broadcast from his home at his kitchen table sometimes in a bathrobe even, drinking his morning coffee. He would buy every newspaper in the city - The Star, The Sun, The Globe and Mail etc. and he would compare all of the headlines to see how the news was being reported and what kind of bias the newspaper might have compared to another media outlet. This is basically unheard of now and something you really have to seek out in order to find the whole picture of a story because of how infiltrated the media is by hundreds of different interest groups.

A lot of shit ITT has been parroting Conservative media in a way that does not indicate independent thought or critical thinking. If Conservatives actually want to take majority in the coming election, now is not the time to turn your back on the party or the country when the forward momentum was there.

I would also like to agree and have pointed out before that I think there is foreign interference and influence (Indian, Chinese) and I think that is an issue for Trump. Perhaps securing the borders is more metaphorical and it is these things that need to be cleaned up for a better allied relationship with the States in the future.
 
Mexicans, once again, goes behind Canada and make a deal with americans first.

Trudeau is so fucking retarded.

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Canada has a legit interest in protecting our dairy trade. I don’t want to see Canadian family dairy farms bought up by US conglomerates. It’s vital for a strong populace.
To be clear, I have little interest in being gobbled up by the floundering American (read, Israeli) Empire. I want hard, but pragmatic, protectionism and closed borders. IDGAF about tariffs on American goods and IDC if things get worse before they get better. Domestically I favor a libertarian-lite small gov't bureacracy (ie a night-watchman state) with a reasonable social-safety net, and balkanization with reciprocal agreements. I would include large scale public works that benefit all citizens (hydro & nuke projects) in my watchman state definition, along with a citizen militia.

I have zero concern about a military threat. Canada is huge, and Russia is barely holding onto little bits of Ukraine, a country that's attached to them. China is on the other side of the world.
We can easily get back to our former military readiness with our own industry and natural resources. That should be our long-term goal, maybe 50 years or so. In the short-term we should be trying to work with the US, as we always have.
The average Canadian's conception of our sovereignty is flawed. We have always had foreign influence in our government, however it was American, not indian or chinese. This is why the U.S.G. is mad.

However, I have very strong misgivings on the capacity of anyone currently in government to be able to organize a transition like this, and not a single one of them would be interested in it. If someone aligning with the interests of the average Canadian came to power, they would quickly be replaced, either by American business interests, or one of the other foreign economic giants.

Our current leaders are, to a man, globalist. And, without a revolutionary sea-change in public opinion, the future ones always will be. There is little hope in elevating anyone in our system who even gives lip service to the citizens interests. They're more concerned with "nudging" the people to align with their own interests, and failing that, replacing us with people who wont notice (or care).

The Canadian spirit has been given involuntary MAID. The rugged individualism and appreciation of the pioneer has been murdered, and replaced with the techno-feudalism of rootless cosmopolitans.

Our courts have been subverted by neo-marxist ideologues and a nonsense "living tree" interpretation of the law.

Given this assessment, there is a reasonable argument that assuming the strong US constitution and economy will allow more freedom & prosperity for the average citizen. And be easier, than unfucking our own weak Charter and finances. Even while acknowledging all the central-banking parasites currently bleeding the American populace.
 
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This is all I'm asking for, guys. I literally am disbarred from center-left to left circles because of my views. I am stuck with the Conservatives and we don't see eye to eye on everything but I understand very well how liberal ideology has had a very negative effect on Western society. But more often than not, there are so many extreme loud voices on the right saying some of the equally dumbest shit I've heard that isn't questioned because of the need to stick to "the cause" (whatever that may be at the moment). I'm asking for critical thinking.

You do not think critically. You forward everything the mainstream media says uncritically. You claim you are against both big government and big business, however the mainstream media is both. You blindly sided with Trudeau over the powergrabbing and outright evil move he did towards the truckers.

On top of it all you fetishize credentials to an insane degree. Credentialism got Canada to where it is now.

In many ways you are the worst kind of centrist, you do not have any actual beliefs that will change the status quo and you take being in the center as being intelligent in it's own right, when it is not. You blindly preach unity for the sake of unity asking others to abandon their own ideology and beliefs because you think coming together and singing with the other side would magically solve issues, it would not. Btw since you read both sides how come you came to the conclusion that Donald Trump is a dictator rather than elected by the American populace? Only one side of the newspaper isle would make such a claim.

For your sake I hope you don't read newspapers that just claims to be center right but is actually leftwing?

Same with a lot of keyworlds you're using.

That is why I have zero trust for Conservatives in this country. All media - Rumble, YouTube, CBC, Reddit, Facebook is controlled opposition because it is so fucking easy to convince subgroups of Canadians of very stupid things thanks to little to no media literacy being apart of the culture.

Project 2025 playbook

Russian backed influence

oligarch billionaire backed plan to destroy much of the western world

traitors to both real Americans and Canadians

convoy as part of the overall plan, which data has pointed to with clear evidence of foreign influence


Are these posts indicative of your anti-government anti-big corporation beliefs? When you claim you read studies and data from these organizations?

You are not a centrist. And you are not rightwing. You are doing an absolute dogshit job hiding it. The government could fund a study tomorrow that says eating shit will lead to better health and you will jump at the chance at doing so. Oh wait, they did. In 2014 when they published a study that said immigration will lead to economic growth. You have no critical thinking skills.

And second-worst of all we have pointed out your rights and democracy having been trampled on, which you accepted and celebrated because one side of the newspaper isle claimed it was Russia who brainwashed people into protesting a govenrment policy. Democracy and Rights means absolutely nothing to you and the leaders of Canada. You are trying to stir up nationalism because you love the government and not it's people.

huhuhuuhuhuhh brownies though

And this is quite possibly the worst post of all. You wanna know who washes away right-wing concerns as just not liking browns? Leftwingers. people in this thread has consistently pointed out to you that they are not liked for a variety of reasons, bad for the economy, shitting everywhere, harassing and stalking children, shitting in public pools. Smelling. Terrorism in the case of Europe. and all of that have been endorsed and encouraged by the government.

But all of that is inconvenient for left-wingers and they lack theory of mind so they wash it away with "just don't like the browns" just like you do.
 
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Hopefully this is a nudge we needs to go back to developing our strategic industries.

That's the genius of this as bad as a turn of events as it is. It will take Canada engaging in a wartime effort never seen before. 10-20 years of uninterrupted inter-provincial co-operation at every level of government, every political party, every special interest, every chug, and crown interest to install thousands of miles of pipeline, LNG terminals, new refineries, mineral extraction, etc. to get out from under America. Maybe a hundred billion total and money for a standing military to defending territorial, coastal waters including arctic and patrol the border if that's going to be a thing. All from a country that can't or won't even build residential houses for people to live in. Trump knows this, and all we wants is Trudeau to bitch out and kiss the ring because its personal and Trudeau won't he'd rather see all of Canada burn.

But none of you have presented solid reason for suddenly sucking Donald Trumps dick and wanting to shed your nationality and rights.

Nationality... its a post national state but you knew that. Rights? Debanking, being locked up for protesting etc. Being locked up for speech, you already know that. Proposed nearly life sentences for hate speech if Justo and the real power brokers had their way before prorogation. You will not be make your replacements uncomfortable while they steal your country from you.

Hate to break it to your big brain but the brain drain is intentional, like everywhere else in the world it happens. It's completely intentional because the last thing a corrupt state (ie, Laurentians) wants in the country are smart, educated and capable people who will depose them. They want to retain people like you who are easy.

This is all I'm asking for, guys. I literally am disbarred from center-left to left circles because of my views.

This comes as a surprise. Maybe its not your views but the pinky triangle way you deliver them?

When I was growing up in the GTA, Breakfast Television had a segment with this guy who would broadcast from his home at his kitchen table sometimes in a bathrobe even, drinking his morning coffee. He would buy every newspaper in the city - The Star, The Sun, The Globe and Mail etc. and he would compare all of the headlines to see how the news was being reported and what kind of bias the newspaper might have compared to another media outlet. This is basically unheard of now and something you really have to seek out in order to find the whole picture of a story because of how infiltrated the media is by hundreds of different interest groups.

BkTV fan? Say no more. Here is your inventor of BkTV and CityTV, and Canada's biggest ever hasbarat. Really explains everything about your schizoposts.


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America gets the NW Passage

Russia gets their warm water ports

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And to come full circle to 2025, perhaps Canada's greatest Maritime folk singer Stan Rogers, who looks like a boomer, but somehow died at 33 in 1983 burned alive on an Air Canada plane in Kentucky when some faggot set it alight by smoking in the washroom.

When folk songs were epic, planes could still be hijacked & you could still roast in your cabin chair even when it was maintained by White men.
 
I have and somehow I still don't want to lose my rights, freedom, access to democracy, identity etc just because they immigrated too many Brown people. Are you insane? Too many brown people show up and you give up everything? That's why you're a Canadian Nigger. That is incredibly weak spirited as an individual, regardless of what country you live in. You are ready for the new world order to be dictated to you by the hands of a few billionaires where you finally own nothing at all, not even the modicum of national identity.
I think I see how Canada got to this place.

Thinking that just wanting things was enough to deserve them.

It’s a hard world, and the US mostly ignored and passively protected us when we weren’t A Problem.

But for ten years we’ve had a combination of anti-American leadership (and citizens) who would spit on our only protector and meal ticket to the extent that we willingly let China in here to install itself like a tick on USA’s northern border. We refuse to develop resources like a serious country. And now it’s so integrated into our economy and culture we can’t solve these problems ourselves.

We’ve also let in the worst terrorists in the world and let them live openly in our cities, because we are so easy on crime they don’t care about being caught. We actively import useless human biomass to Make GDP Go Up, impoverishing the pre-existing population.

Canada has turned into A Problem for the US, and we cannot or will not solve it, so they will solve it for themselves, and we will take what we get.

What the hell are you so nostalgic for? You can keep the maple syrup and hockey if that’s what’s most important to you. Canada is a failed state, you think those just get to flail around indefinitely causing problems for the countries around them?
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Seeing the Team Canada mass formation is giving me the Covid creeps. We are, at heart, an authoritarian country.
 
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I've been in this thread for months espousing my center-right anti-big-corporate anti-government beliefs. I clearly stated I do not think Canada is the best country in the world but I am not willing to become American because browns and Trudeau. I have consistently spoken about Canadian issues especially the ones in central to Atlantic Canada. I have consistently said I do not agree with immigration. I have consistently said I believe the country has suffered a massive brain drain. I have consistently said I do not like the liberals or Trudeau - for months. I have consistently said I do not like PP. And I also do not like Donald Trump. I believe the government on both sides believe average people are too stupid for the full story or information and will act accordingly. I have clearly stated prejudices against natives and whatever progressive thinking has occurred about them. I have been across this website speaking about disliking transgender ideology.

But none of you have presented solid reason for suddenly sucking Donald Trumps dick and wanting to shed your nationality and rights.
Okay, I hear all of that and I think we see eye to eye on most of that. I'm going to level with you and explain my position on the issue. I don't think this is so much an issue finding reasons to abandon Canada, rather finding reasons why I should support Canada in any capacity. When it comes to politics, I am pragmatic above all else and reject a majority of arguments revolving around morality and loyalty in favor of tangible results because loyalty doesn't mean anything when I'm starving on the side of the street. I don't care who is ruling over me, so long as they stay out of my life as much as possible. I don't necessarily want Canada to die, but it fails to give any reason it should keep living as it currently does. Seeing things in that way, and considering that I am most likely much younger than you are and have practically no reason to be defensive of Canada, I do not see any case that American rule will be worse than our current rule, because the worst case scenario means everything stays the same as it is now.

Canada is financially objectively worse than the US, but beyond that the government feels the need to work its way into every nook and cranny of our lives in a way that can only be interpreted as malicious. Self defense and hate speech is consistently treated worse than murder. Our tax dollars are used to fund the lives of immigrants rather than going to the services that they claim they go to while the taxpayers are destitute. They set up federal-backed suicide programs in lieu of actual solutions. They stifle our progression and industrial capabilities out of "compassion" while the rest of the world runs circles around us. They pass laws and alter our "rights" to allow them to assume total control when they see fit, and when people get angry and take action against any of this they trample you with horses, beat with with the guns you aren't allow to own, and turn you into a political prisoner on trumped up charges.

So if you want to convince me that we would be better off as independent Canadians, you'll have to give me some practical reasons why that's the case divorced from any sort of attachment, since in my case, that was crushed before it had a chance to form. If you can do that, I'll drop my argument.
 
I feel bad for Canada, but you guys basically are an extension of the worst ideas the English had with governance and unironically should have cut Quebec off years ago and let them suffer until they come crawling back like a mouthy French whore in need of rent money.

The US has it’s problems, but you guys effectively let them fester because you could count on the US really not paying attention to Canada.

I do broadly hate Canadian citizens. I had a Canadian-American mayor when I was a kid. They have an unearned ego whenever they talk about Americans.
 
I'm not sure how much interest there would be, as most of the significant topics would be things affected by Ottawa idiocy or foreign influences over Canada overall. I guess we could compare Stampede week to Klondike Days? Do any American states have two or more seperate state fairs each?
I know there's a lot of smaller county fairs all over Ontario each summer and early autumn. When I was a teenager, I used to go watch horse-racing with my grandma at one of them, and I still like to hit a few of them each year (though I didn't last year, I'll have to make sure I do it a few more than usual this year I guess).
 
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