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Commander X said:
The American industry as it stands now is totally screwed. There's only a few talented people left in the industry that haven’t gone homeless or succumbed to an opioid addiction. Even someone like Tartkovsky who has some clout and toiled away in the 3D animation mines can barely get what he wants made. Are people in the industry going to let someone like Maxwell Atoms do another show or people John R Dilworth or Danny Antonucci or McCracken; guys who want to make new projects but can’t. Meanwhile that monotone retard Loren Bouchard gets 14 seasons and a shit movie for his bland, lifeless show about a bunch of charmless, frog-mouth mutants who have no facial expressions beyond blank stares and frowns.

Netflix rejected over a dozen original concepts from Craig McCracken and now he’s forced to work on a CGI baby Foster’s Home spin-off. But people who've sucked enough Hollywood and Podcast bro dick, can easily get themselves FOX or Netflix cartoons about hideously drawn people doing heckin' normal things.

It's just an awful era for the industry, I thought it was a good deal for Antonucci, his Lupo the Butcher getting an animated series, then boom! Netflix rejected it, but you know what did get accepted, a lame haunted house cartoon from Dan Harmon, who already has two big name cartoons that suck total ass.
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Sick, sad world we're in when the uncreative gets kudos for nothing. *sigh*
 
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Commander X said:
Meanwhile that monotone retard Loren Bouchard gets 14 seasons and a shit movie for his bland, lifeless show about a bunch of charmless, frog-mouth mutants who have no facial expressions beyond blank stares and frowns.
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To give it credit, it's perfectly content to exist in it's own little corner without any wider cultural relevance.
I can live in a world where it effectively doesn't exist.
 
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Coolio55 said:
To give it credit, it's perfectly content to exist in it's own little corner without any wider cultural relevance.
I can live in a world where it effectively doesn't exist.
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He also has been in the industry since 1995 so it's not like he's some random upstart.
I imagine what really sucks for the industry is with everything being outsourced good luck starting from the bottom and going up the chain through hard work and making connections. If you listen to a lot of people talk about their rise or how they start it's all by showing their worth, getting lucky, and making connections with the more experienced people they worked with which can't happen when so much work is not done in America anymore.
 
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Does Antonucci own the rights to the Ed boys? I'm just now realizing that we've fortunately managed to dodge a reboot for well over 15-something years and I can't imagine Cartoon Network's suits not frothing at the mouth to pump out something else with those characters.
 
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Endless Torment said:
He also has been in the industry since 1995 so it's not like he's some random upstart.
I imagine what really sucks for the industry is with everything being outsourced good luck starting from the bottom and going up the chain through hard work and making connections. If you listen to a lot of people talk about their rise or how they start it's all by showing their worth, getting lucky, and making connections with the more experienced people they worked with which can't happen when so much work is not done in America anymore.
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Something to think of when you consider this was his first show (as an editor)...
 
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Fag Albert said:
Does Antonucci own the rights to the Ed boys? I'm just now realizing that we've fortunately managed to dodge a reboot for well over 15-something years and I can't imagine Cartoon Network's suits not frothing at the mouth to pump out something else with those characters.
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IIRC he does but CN owns the merchandising rights, after that point they started to get smart and prevented future showrunners from getting the same kind of deal.
 
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Trollblade69 said:
Watched all of OK KO.
I'm just fucking sick and tired of shows that devolve into the creators taking their cancellation out on the show itself.
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How exactly did this happen in OK KO? It’s been a while since I’ve seen it but all I recall is the ending being lackluster and a stupid time skip episode for some reason.
Trollblade69 said:
Why can't they be like Sym-Bionic Titan and face their death with dignity?
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Because they don’t know what dignity is.
 
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Trollblade69 said:
Not even he's a good example, sadly. As a Toonami viewer, I've had to watch Samurai Jack season 5, Primal season 2 and Unicorn: Warriors Eternal succumb to that exact same issue.
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Is unicorn warriors getting another season?

Also maybe unpopular opinion, i didn't mind how Primal ended. Yeah it was underwhelming but it could have been way worse tbh.
 
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ShiftyBoi said:
Also maybe unpopular opinion, i didn't mind how Primal ended. Yeah it was underwhelming but it could have been way worse tbh.
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It could've just not had a second season and been better off. And by the laws of /co/, since the show got bad, it is no longer a show that should be acknowledged to exist.
 
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It could've just not had a second season and been better off. And by the laws of /co/, since the show got bad, it is no longer a show that should be acknowledged to exist.
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Second season has problems, but, I think a lot of it works out alright.

Like the new human characters are great, the problem is I feel like the part on the slave ship drags for way too long, and they interrupted the pacing with the pointless Charles Darwin episode, and the viking guy returning as a flame elemental went practically nowhere.

Tbh I like that there's a plot, because the first season of constant screaming and fights got a little repetitive, but it's a time honored tradition that Genndy can't wrap a show up lol.
Endless Torment said:
I ignored Unicorn: Warriors Eternal because it didn't interest me from what I've seen, but I'm happy he at least managed to make the show he wanted for 20 years good or bad.
What were the issues with the show and what were the good parts?
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I'd have to watch it again, the style is amazing, which is par for the course with Genndy, but the characters before they turn into the Unicorn Warriors don't get much development, and even afterward they tend to not have much going on.

The main character is not allowed to do anything cool for most of the show because unlike the other warriors, she is constantly fluctuating between her old identity and her new one, every scene with her is the same. Although she is helped by her husband who is incredibly likable and actually has really interesting stuff going on.

On the opposite end the other warriors kind of stink. The elf guy is an annoying simp, the little soccer kid is clairvoyant and just kind of exposits information, albeit in a more silly manner than a character of his station would. The robot Copernicus is great, no notes for him.

The threat in the show is also not terribly well defined, for the most part it's just evil green flame, it doesn't have the presence that a character like Aku has. All in all I give the show 6-7/10. Animation is a 9/10.
 
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Endless Torment said:
I ignored Unicorn: Warriors Eternal because it didn't interest me from what I've seen, but I'm happy he at least managed to make the show he wanted for 20 years good or bad.
What were the issues with the show and what were the good parts?
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The only good part is probably the animation quality itself. The actual designs are terrible, and I do get what Gendy was going for with this 1930's animation aesthetic. It just really looks bad and doesn't play well with the story he is trying to tell.

Speaking of the the story, its a confused mess where things simply happen and there really is never a "because" or even a fucking "and then". Characters just do things for no logical reason and go to random places. The characters themselves are flat and largely unlikable. The only tolerable character is the main chicks fiancé and that is only because he has an understandable goal and motivation to do...anything.

The finale is a clusterfuck of nonsense that even makes the prior confused mess look like a hospitals clean room.

Don't watch it, its confusingly bad.
 
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