2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

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Trump making big moves today, re: Middle East.

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Fucking finally. It's asinine that we've been sending taxpayer dollars to Gaza while still, even now, they continue to hold Americans hostage.

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He's continuing to talk big about moving the Palestinians out of Gaza—perhaps even permanently—and has outright claimed that Saudi Arabia no longer requires a commitment to Palestinian statehood as a prerequisite for a deal with Israel:

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I'm skeptical that he's being entirely serious about this (re: relocating Gazans). Seems more like it's meant to be a wake up call to Palestinian leadership that they can't keep instigating wars with their far stronger neighbor and then crying when they inevitably get their shit kicked in while demanding the West pay for the clean up, as well as a notice to other countries in the region that if they don't start cleaning up their own neighborhood (i.e., actually holding the Palestinians accountable for their actions), someone else will come straighten things out, perhaps in ways that they really, really don't like.

Bonus lol:
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I'm skeptical that he's being entirely serious about this (re: relocating Gazans).

Same but that's the problem with Trump. Who fucking knows. He could be trying to appease Bibi for the moment. He could just be stating the complete obvious that large parts of Gaza are unlivable at the moment. With no further thought.

Is Trump still on them temporarily leaving? Where the word "temporarily" some how got lost in the narrative the media put out. Of course Israel would never let them back in and the Gazans know that.

Letting people back to destroyed cities that can't easily be cleared and rebuilt may be part of a plan to get them to decide to leave. There's a reality of the situation which is going to sink in. The other day I read that the UN says it'll take 80 years to rebuild, which seems extreme. One of the problems is that the destroyed cities will be extremely difficult to clear. Nothing much be reused. Where do you even put the remains of the cities? People can't live in the remains as they're being cleared. This is a huge fucking issue which isn't getting the attention it should be at the moment.


On another forum I go to people are now all, "Trump is for ethnic cleansing Gaza." Yet completely ignore the fact that Biden was behind making the place unlivable. We're now having to deal with the aftermath of went on.
 
On another forum I go to people are now all, "Trump is for ethnic cleansing Gaza." Yet completely ignore the fact that Biden was behind making the place unlivable. We're now having to deal with the aftermath of went on.
Because they're believing fake news and taking what he said out of context like they always do.

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A radical proposal. Trump is scaring the living shit out of Egypt and Jordan because they will do anything to avoid importing Palestinians who would destabilize the countries and overthrow their rule. They cannot be sure he is bluffing because, unlike O’Biden Bama, he sticks to his word.

On the other hand, this sounds like a PR nightmare for Israel among the people that already hate Israel and think it is land-grabbing and ethnic cleansing. I’m eager to see how world leaders and terrorist organization leaders, including Guterres, react to this.
 
Arab American voters and pet-cause leftists are the biggest block of retards to ever grace the American landmass. These dumb faggots spent a year and a half fighting against the Dems (the one party that ever expressed any interest in a ceasefire or two-state solution) and gave the election right up to Trump, Zion Don, the guy who spent the entire year on the campaign trail sucking Netanyahu's cock better than any other AIPAC stooge in Congress could ever dream of.

Similarly, Hamas is a gaggle of the biggest fucking idiots to ever live (past tense, the IDF killed them all). Several decades getting their people slaughtered in an increasingly unwinnable war, only for it to be brought to this inevitable end. "From the river to the sea"? A "One-state solution"? You've got that now, Gaza is now Israeli territory, and they will build monuments to Trump and Kushner in every new town square.

I wonder what pet cause Jill Stein and the Greens are going to try and co-opt in 2028, I doubt the dipshit leftists/commies she grifted this election are going to learn any lessons about realpolitik from this.
 
Arab American voters and pet-cause leftists are the biggest block of retards to ever grace the American landmass. These dumb faggots spent a year and a half fighting against the Dems (the one party that ever expressed any interest in a ceasefire or two-state solution) and gave the election right up to Trump, Zion Don, the guy who spent the entire year on the campaign trail sucking Netanyahu's cock better than any other AIPAC stooge in Congress could ever dream of.
They actually want the decolonization of the US, land back, reparations for slavery, and the complete destruction of the US government. Those are their real demands, but Democrats are too naive to actually believe them. They never really gave a shit about Gaza because the Democratic party is too reformist for them, and siphons too many people away from their radicalism. Once you realize their real goal is just to destroy the DNC, and create a power vacuum for their cause - their motivations will make more sense to you.
 
I can't imagine how I could bring myself to keep living in circumstances like that.

Jews (and more so Israelis) are a hardened bunch of people, we have lived through worse and we will live through this. It will be very hard but we will do it with our head held high and look towards life.
You really think so? I'm not persuaded it would have an effect. I expect the people who celebrate or ignore the proof of atrocities already published would respond the same way to additional proof.

Look, These gaggle of retards already claim that with the holocaust. but Eisenhower was right. You need to document EVERYTHING and make sure no one forgets it. When people see the films, their views will change. Violence and murder is fun and games until you actually experience it. And Jews don't die like Muslims, they don't all on their ah until they akbar themselves. They don't worship death.


What are you, Palestinian?
Jesus Christ, no. I just want people to realize what the enemy actually is. Fucking monsters.



Arab American voters and pet-cause leftists are the biggest block of retards to ever grace the American landmass. These dumb faggots spent a year and a half fighting against the Dems (the one party that ever expressed any interest in a ceasefire or two-state solution) and gave the election right up to Trump, Zion Don, the guy who spent the entire year on the campaign trail sucking Netanyahu's cock better than any other AIPAC stooge in Congress could ever dream of.
^^This man speaks truth


Similarly, Hamas is a gaggle of the biggest fucking idiots to ever live (past tense, the IDF killed them all). Several decades getting their people slaughtered in an increasingly unwinnable war, only for it to be brought to this inevitable end. "From the river to the sea"? A "One-state solution"? You've got that now, Gaza is now Israeli territory, and they will build monuments to Trump and Kushner in every new town square.

Arabs are like blacks, they focus on pride and pride first. The Middle East is one giant Nigger moment.


I wonder what pet cause Jill Stein and the Greens are going to try and co-opt in 2028, I doubt the dipshit leftists/commies she grifted this election are going to learn any lessons about realpolitik from this.

Palestine, Trannies and my bet: Black Africans.


They actually want the decolonization of the US, land back, reparations for slavery, and the complete destruction of the US government. Those are their real demands, but Democrats are too naive to actually believe them. They never really gave a shit about Gaza because the Democratic party is too reformist for them, and siphons too many people away from their radicalism. Once you realize their real goal is just to destroy the DNC, and create a power vacuum for their cause - their motivations will make more sense to you.
Yeah and it angers me to no end. The DNC could be the party of labor (unions), social welfare, and generally being the opposite of what makes the RNC insufferable at times, but instead, its a party of actual communists, actual Islamic terrorists, and people who can't see crime in front of them. And I don't mean "all dems are crooks" I mean, not locking up the guy who keeps smoking crack and robbing people.
 
On February 4th, 2025, during a press conference with Netanyahu, Trump said that "the US will take over the Gaza Strip." Trump says that the US will clear whatever explosives are left, level the rubble, build housing, and promote economic development via jobs. He hopes that with new management, the violence will end.



Trump and Netanyahu respond to questions. Trump says it could be a long-term ownership and he's been considering it for months. Netanyahu says that would accomplish Israel's goal of "Gaza never poses a threat to Israel again" and that it's worth pursuing.



Full conference here. More information/announcements likely to be released within the next month.
 
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