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Should be a wild four years.

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Serious thinking cap question:

Do you think anyone in Trump 47's team knew USAID was this hive of faggotry, or was it really just DOGE trying to figure out where money comes from and discovered the equivalent of a mobsters mass grave location?

Because of Trump's haki either could be true.
I know that leading up to the order to withdraw troops from Afghanistan, there were reports talking about how we had been spending money to commietranny the afghans. A general idea that our aid is somewhat corrupt goes back as far as I can remember.

I’m sure they knew they were going to find some shit, but I think there was still room for genuine surprise that USAID did nothing good at all
 
Well here's the thing: Do you think Trump is also going to convert Canada into the 51st State of the US? The answer is obvious: No. It's just another thing he does where he demands something extravagant, to open up negotiations to get what he actually wants. If we're going to be 100% realistic here: We're not going to take the Gaza strip as U.S. territory. What the strategy entails, I have no clue. Maybe find better negotiation deals to stop the war going on in Israel? He is right now in talks with Iran too, so maybe he's trying to kill two birds with one stone? It's hard to tell. But I really don't think we will take the strip.

Note: Even I was taken back from this decision, but it is clear that he's trying to negotiate for something.
preface: I doubt there'll ever be a middle east las vegas strip

but lets spitball for a minute. the conflict as it has been going is pretty much unsolvable, it's becomes it's own trope over the decades. just shuffling more money on either side is just a waste of money. so the only way to even conceptualize a solution (unless you wanna cleanse it via military or holdomor-style) is from the outside, however I doubt that's a thought anyone has seriously entertained.

if you're at that point, how could that outside intervention look like? who could do it and how, who has the means and will? that list would be pretty short, especially considering geopolitics (if putin would say it everyone would have a shitfit).

does that mean trump really wants to carve out a piece and build a luxury resort (or condos for palestinians)? doubt it. however it throws a bigass wrench into the "this is how it's always worked", which basically says "no more endless money, find another solution or I'll find one". for example saying he's gonna build it up, but for that he has to move them first. which as others said means the other states have to actually support them or explain why they don't. and if they don't (what I assume is gonna happen) it now puts trump into a much better bargaining position.

another aspect which hasn't been talked about yet that trump's a businessman, not a warhawk. I think the first term showed that pretty clear. he knows he can get people via the money they could make AND would stabilize the middle-east. because that's another thing no one thought about: if there is peace in the middle east... why would a certain nation need constant unconditional support?

but yeah, casually dropping that at the conference with everyone going "wait, what?" was hilarious :story:

@SpergioLeonne I don’t disagree. I’m mainly trying to figure out if USAID might also be part of the ecosystem running domestic psyops since the restrictions on domestic propaganda were lifted when the Smith-Mundt act was changed. I’m trying to think of what would be TRULY terrifying to the Dems, and for some reason I think it has to be more than disseminating globohomo. Their zombies would support that.
even the glowies wouldn't (shouldn't) be so retarded to run the juicy gayops stateside via USAID. more likely they gonna keep that in much tighter control, if they're even dumb enough to leave a papertrail in the first place. however combined with the usual complacency over time and the enforced peter principle via DEI, I wouldn't be surprised.

however you'll get stuff like this where they drain endless money out of the system supposed to help people, which is more of a problems for dems and the uncomfortable questions they gonna get:

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Serious thinking cap question:

Do you think anyone in Trump 47's team knew USAID was this hive of faggotry, or was it really just DOGE trying to figure out where money comes from and discovered the equivalent of a mobsters mass grave location?

Because of Trump's haki either could be true.
There have been people pointing at USAID as a source of leftist propaganda and subversion for years, but they were all basically written off as Q Anon deep-state style conspiracy theorists. It's hard to find them now cause its all being overwritten by recent news, I fucking hate the algorithm.

Trump did say he intended to go hard against the deep state this time, and it looks like at least someone high up in DOGE (maybe Elon himself, who knows) did listen to those crazy conspiracy cooks.

Turns out they were right.
 
I think that's fair. By dooming Im referring to the shit posters taking potshots at blondald xrimpf, not actual reservations about gaza that people have.

Europe very much is in trouble vis a vis "refugees". If Trump does something in Gaza I don't want those people flooding Europe anymore, the last ten years have shown us the governments of Europe are ill equipped or unwilling to keep their native populations safe and prosperous.
Any NATO country not meeting their defense spending commitments will be culturally enriched. Hell, Starmer might take them all in anyway, there are still some natives left in Birmingham who need to be pushed out, I'm sure.
 
As good as Musk is conning a bunch of saps that he's going to bring back the Moon program when he can't send a squirrel passed the ozone layer lol
My friend, SpaceX has been sending people into orbit for more than five years. The only rockets paid for by American taxpayers are missions for NASA; everything else is either paid for by Starlink revenue or is on contract for specific satellite launches. Meanwhile, you're crying about the "failures" of a self-funded test and development program to the point that even thunderfoot probably thinks you're weird.
 
Some on the American Left are getting annoyed with the performance of liberal politicians in the Senate.

Democrats Didn't Do Everything in Their Power to Hold Up Trump's Attorney General Pick​

U.S. Sen. John Fetterman was the only Democrat to join Republicans late Tuesday in voting to confirm Pam Bondi as attorney general, making a corporate lobbyist, election denier, and loyalist of President Donald Trump the nation's top law enforcement official.

But while Fetterman was alone among Democrats in backing Bondi's confirmation, the 54-46 vote took place earlier than initially scheduled as Senate Democrats declined to do everything in their power to hold up the confirmation process.

Some Democratic senators have said publicly that they intend to delay Trump nominees as much as possible in retaliation for billionaire Elon Musk's White House-backed rampage through federal agencies, but no member of the minority party objected to unanimous consent on moving forward with the Bondi proceedings, paving the way for Tuesday's vote.

Christina Harvey, executive director of the progressive advocacy group Stand Up America, said in a statement that "Pam Bondi's confirmation is just another example of what we've seen from the Trump White House and the Republican-controlled Congress over the last two weeks: a government of, by, and for wealthy special interests."

"I shudder to think what Pam Bondi's response will be when Elon Musk and his band of lost boys wander into the Department of Justice and demand access to computer systems where sensitive information about ongoing criminal investigations is stored," Harvey added. "Bondi's record of caving to big donors and corporate interests is exactly the opposite of what we need right now in an attorney general."

In recent days, as Musk's lieutenants have wreaked havoc across the federal government and moved to shutter entire agencies, Senate Democrats have made a show of opposition, with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) pumping his fists at a protest Wednesday outside of the Treasury Department building and chanting, "We will win!"

But as The Associated Press reported, Schumer's chants were "quickly drowned out by chants of, 'Shut down the Senate!'" And even as they've pledged to fight the Trump administration's authoritarianism, Democrats have continued supporting the president's nominees.

"People around the country are asking Senate Dems to fight back," Indivisible's Ezra Levin wrote Tuesday. "But today, 22 Senate Dems voted for yet another Trump nominee (Collins for VA). If yours voted the right way, thank them. If they voted the wrong way, do what you can to let your entire community know and express disapproval."

Our Revolution, a progressive advocacy organization, implored Senate Democrats on Tuesday to "act as a real opposition party" by placing a "blanket hold on all Trump nominees" and "using every procedural tool available" to obstruct business as usual, "from quorum calls to blocking unanimous consent"—a procedure central to the day-to-day functioning of the upper chamber.

"This is not the time for silence or half-measures," said Our Revolution. "Grassroots progressives demand bold, decisive action to protect democracy and halt this authoritarian takeover."

Axiosreported Tuesday that "incensed Democrats are eyeing a wide-scale blockade of nominees that lasts far beyond the confirmation hearings for the boldfaced names in Trump's Cabinet," and Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) has vowed to object to unanimous consent on advancing Trump State Department picks over the Musk-led dismantling of the U.S. Agency for International Development.

But progressives said anything short of all-out opposition to Trump nominees—including sweeping refusal of unanimous consent—is sufficient.

"What's happening right now is unprecedented, dangerous, and ultimately so far beyond anything approaching acceptable that there's only one real option for congressional Democrats. Not a single vote for anything. Nothing," wrote Stephen Miles, the president of Win Without War. "No more [unanimous consent]. No more votes for noms. Nothing. This has to stop."

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There have been people pointing at USAID as a source of leftist propaganda and subversion for years, but they were all basically written off as Q Anon deep-state style conspiracy theorists. It's hard to find them now cause its all being overwritten by recent news, I fucking hate the algorithm.

Trump did say he intended to go hard against the deep state this time, and it looks like at least someone high up in DOGE (maybe Elon himself, who knows) did listen to those crazy conspiracy cooks.

Turns out they were right.
DOGE took over the office that implements the main IT for the whole of the US gov.
So they have all the passwords, accounts and other shit. Perhaps copy's of emails with a breadcrub trail.
I can imagine there are sympathetic fed workers too, giving them tip offs of where shit is stored and what the departments are really doing.
As much a you see the left leaning fed fags on reddit. I would bet there are a lot more who are on board with Trump and will sellout their co workers.
 
I am not certain what Trump plans on doing, if anything, regarding Gaza. He said he was going to sign the tariffs with Mexico and Canada regardless of their diplomacy. Then those countries caved, they negotiated, and the tariffs didn't go through. In my view, Trump is doing the thing of "I will absolutely do this thing unless you give me a better option." He's calling the bluffs of other world leaders.
I'm a dumbfuck in terms of geopolitical affairs, but I think that having the Palestinians isolated to their own state for the welfare of the Middle East would be the best course of action. Apply sanctions to whoever attacks first. I would prefer that the US would just leave them to their own affairs unless they potentially cause conflict to neighboring countries. Trump being an ally to Israel is not surprising given he's a New York real estate developer. If you bomb the Gaza strip, those Palestinians will be displaced elsewhere and other factions would be created that can cause more conflict.
 
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