"Mad at the Internet" - a/k/a My Psychotherapy Sessions

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prollyanotherlurker said:
hitting some kind of rock bottom that makes them desperate enough to actually listen to what other people are trying to tell them.
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I've been thinking about this a lot. I think Null is right that rock bottom isn't real and is a dangerously inaccurate representation of it. Addicts will never bottom out as long as they can keep shoveling substances in. It's inherently an activity based on running away. The only thing that gets you out of it is more accurately characterized as a "shake awake" or "moment of clarity" where you see that your flight from reality is both actually making the problem you're running from worse and hurting everyone you care about - and then you have to be further convinced you can chart a course to make things better or atleast stable.

For Ralph to stop he's basically going to have to find something he values more highly than getting blasted all the time and choose that over getting blasted. It seems like it might maybe be his boy. I hope it works out for him, but it's frankly super unlikely and Ralph is probably too inherently impulsive to ever reign his BPD in enough to be a truly good dad even if he were sober.
 
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waffle said:
I've been thinking about this a lot. I think Null is right that rock bottom isn't real and is a dangerously inaccurate representation of it. Addicts will never bottom out as long as they can keep shoveling substances in. It's inherently an activity based on running away. The only thing that gets you out of it is more accurately characterized as a "shake awake" or "moment of clarity" where you see that your flight from reality is both actually making the problem you're running from worse and hurting everyone you care about - and then you have to be further convinced you can chart a course to make things better or atleast stable.

For Ralph to stop he's basically going to have to find something he values more highly than getting blasted all the time and choose that over getting blasted. It seems like it might maybe be his boy. I hope it works out for him, but it's frankly super unlikely and Ralph is probably too inherently impulsive to ever reign his BPD in enough to be a truly good dad even if he were sober.
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The misunderstanding of what rock bottom means, at least coming from people that are sober that were addicts. Is pretty well described here. It never has been an event where things can't keep getting worse. It's the moment the person realizes they have to change. If you go to any meeting the people there that have actually stopped will tell you, there is no actual rock bottom. Specifically so people that are new won't think things can't and won't get worse if they go and try to use again. The only true rock bottom is death.

The thing about finding something you value more than getting fucked up. For addicts. It doesn't work. I've know people that make attempts to get sober and say "I can't drink again, if I do I will looe my kids", or lose my wife", or "I'm facing 15 years in prison if I get caught messing up on probation again", or "I need a liver transplant, and they won't even let me on the list if I can't stop drinking". I know people that are dead now because they thought some external thing would get them sober.

External things never work, it doesn't matter if it's the people you care about the most in this world, your own freedom, or your own life. That's why I'm saying rationalizing the reason doesn't stop it at least it doesn't stop it permanently. Which is the core of the issue. And why you will see people that will stop for a few weeks, and go back out and get fucked up again. They want to stop using have people they want to stop using for. But aren't willing to make the rest of the changes they need to make to actually stay stopped.

Which is the reason I mentioned, that Ralph is going to relapse. I can see immediately he just went to that rehab got dried out. And hasn't considered working on any of the underlying issues that lead him to continuously relapse.
 
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Guessing I'm late, but one of Elon's autists is being reported to have been in kiwi farms telegram channels.


JoeyCrafter [Coristine] was a member of Telegram groups called "Kiwi Farms Christmas Chat" and "Kiwi Farms 100% Real No Fake No Virus," both referencing an online forum known for harassment campaigns. Typically, the site has been used to share the personal information of a target, encouraging others to harass them online, in-person, over the phone or by falsely alerting police to a violent crime or active shooter incident at their home.
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I don't know if this is worthy of being on MATI but I suspect this will horrify Dear Feeder so I will go ahead and share it; pharmaceutical companies, not content with advertising digestive and urinary medicine ad nauseam, are now using anime to advertise their BPD medication:

This is being aired for the viewing pleasure of the late-50s Gen Xers who watch Sean Hannity on FOX.
 
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lowly kiwi merchant said:
Guessing I'm late, but one of Elon's autists is being reported to have been in kiwi farms telegram channels.

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Kinda hard to believe that when the journojew follows it up with immediate lies about the forum. Calls into question the legitimacy of any of his claims, no?
 
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I'm a Silly said:
Speaking of cool shirts, is there any clue what was on the one that made this faggot literally shake?
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About Null talking about modern rap last episode.
song means nothing other than how someone can just sing over a catchy beat.
Most rap I listen to is now from either white people or First Nations. Rare to hear a black man that can do music nowadays. Dax is one of few that makes anything good today. Couldn't agree more with the whole Lamar Grammy's crap. Grammy's are dead if he got so many awards for that crap. It's on par with the Game Awards now. Just see which record label gives the show the most money for an award
 
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I got this in my feed and its basically a Reddit/Bluesky militia with the motto, “be gay do crime” lol

The leader thinks the boomer punisher skull is a far right symbol
 
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> Gives up caffeine, except to promote alertness and wakefulness while driving.
> Drives continuously back and forth across America. More road miles that Optimus Prime with Neal Cassaday behind the wheel.

Sarkeesian being passed over by USAID is both funny and also somewhat suspect given her profile. When even bums ranting on street corners were getting thrown a few thousand dollars to add a leftist slant to their schizophrenic ravings, it seems implausible that she was overlooked. Back channels maybe?

A side-effect of listening to MATI without video is that parts of it are randomly instrumental, or consist of a collage of voices absent strong context. Taking away the images transforms the podcast into the kind highbrow art installation that Fraser and Niles might enjoy.
 
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