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Should be a wild four years.

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The system already has an answer and it is appeals. This can be countered with a higher court. The supreme court is full of conservatives that want these changes as well. It might take another few weeks but in the grand scheme of things that isn't that long. Common Law is a thousand plus year old tradition. You don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Additionally, I recall Justice Thomas commenting a few years ago something along the lines of if the nationwide injunction thing keeps being abused, the SCOTUS might look particularly unkindly on it.
 
They've only hit the tip of the iceberg of corruption and I agree they need to lean into it. The news media isn't going to write anything that makes these programs look bad so it'll have to be done by others with reach. A lot of the USAID stuff alone is indefensible and should be put on blast more, forcing anyone to try to defend it.
Keep doing this for every other massive waste of tax dollars found, there will be billions on LGBT stuff alone.

Trump pointing out the Kennedy Center was used to host drag queens is an example but there needs to be more effort to present it to normies and not just by Trump.
 
He could've actually made some waves with the latest tantrum if it wasn't a rerun. The first time he went off I remember people getting all hyped because FINALLY a BUH-LACK MAN with some clout was dropping trvth nvkes about Jews and... well, just Jews I guess.
To paraphrase Manjula, Kamye West wasn't doing or saying anything that Louis Farakahn wasn't doing already and sayin.... while also running a quasi religious militant group....
 
You'd have to be the world's most gullible moron to join the institutionally-pozzed military just because Trump's been in office for three weeks. Imagine signing a multi-year contract with an organization that hated you and everything you stood for a matter of days ago just because they pinky-promise they totally changed their minds.
 
Democrat judges are absolutely insane and so desperate they will literally set themselves and their entire party on fire just to put a slight delay on Trump. Incredible. Kinda reminds me of the Delaware scandal and how a (D) judge just killed the entire state business of being a corporate heaven to own Musk.

I remember in his first term, a judge created a whole new legal doctrine of asserting "campaign rhetoric" meant the President was too racist to discharge his statutory authority, therefore all his authority over a particular aspect immigration was suspended until somebody else took office. The Supreme Court slapped that down, but the basic principle that any judge can say any stupid shit he wants and put it on a nationwide injunction, and the government is paralyzed until the SCOTUS weighs in is really absurd.
 
i dont give a FUCK about Elon and his zoomers having access to my information thats in federal government servers. all my shit is already in probably a hundred data breaches of verizon or some random healthcare company or whatever. wtf do these people think DOGE is going to do with treasury data other than map out money flow and look for fraud? sell it on the dark web?
 
i dont give a FUCK about Elon and his zoomers having access to my information thats in federal government servers. all my shit is already in probably a hundred data breaches of verizon or some random healthcare company or whatever. wtf do these people think DOGE is going to do with treasury data other than map out money flow and look for fraud? sell it on the dark web?
Give it to pajeets so they can spam you emails at the dark of night asking you to redeem the Google play gift card. If you ignore them, they will hack into your steam account and redeem for you.
 
i dont give a FUCK about Elon and his zoomers having access to my information thats in federal government servers. all my shit is already in probably a hundred data breaches of verizon or some random healthcare company or whatever. wtf do these people think DOGE is going to do with treasury data other than map out money flow and look for fraud? sell it on the dark web?
Sell it to mole people that life in the bowels of the earth of coarse.
 
That would go a long way to making healthcare a lot more reasonable.
That's over 300 dollars a year for every American. For a lot of Americans under 40, that's like half of what you spend on healthcare all year assuming one physical and a trip to the dentist. They really weren't kidding when they said you can have socialized healthcare or mass immigration, but not both.
 
i dont give a FUCK about Elon and his zoomers having access to my information thats in federal government servers. all my shit is already in probably a hundred data breaches of verizon or some random healthcare company or whatever. wtf do these people think DOGE are going to do with treasury data other than map out money flow and look for fraud? sell it on the dark web?

They don't think that. They know they're lying. They're using "Elon has access to your information" as a narrative that will spur some amount of into normies into action, because the truth (we don't want to lose our funding, or have our corruption exposed) is too unsavory.

They are relying on the fact that most people will just absorb the messages their "side" is sending them, and won't spend 10 seconds asking themselves questions like "Why would the richest man in the world go to so much effort to get access to my bank account with $3,000 in it?" or "Isn't my SSN issued by the government? Why am I supposed to be afraid of it being stolen by ... the government? They'll just get mad about anything they are told to get mad about.
 
Trump pointing out the Kennedy Center was used to host drag queens is an example but there needs to be more effort to present it to normies and not just by Trump.
I've got friends and family in that camp, who will not hear any of it as long as it comes from Trump or DOGE. It does not matter how many receipts you show them or how many facts you present to them, it will simply be ignored until 'the right people' say it. It's an unfortunate situation, and I'm not going to doompost over it, but long term all of this only matters as much as the people say it does. I don't know who 'the right people' are to deliver this message, because they won't listen to the right and dems certainly aren't going to be openly questioning this anytime soon. If MSM comes out and does it? "Trump had them at gunpoint to say it" is the answer I guarantee you'd get.
 
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I remember in his first term, a judge created a whole new legal doctrine of asserting "campaign rhetoric" meant the President was too racist to discharge his statutory authority, therefore all his authority over a particular aspect immigration was suspended until somebody else took office. The Supreme Court slapped that down, but the basic principle that any judge can say any stupid shit he wants and put it on a nationwide injunction, and the government is paralyzed until the SCOTUS weighs in is really absurd.
These sort of rulings require emergency appeals heard immediately to put a stay on them and blocking the judge from presiding over cases against the administration once their obsurd rulings are overturned if the judiciary wants to maintain their legitimacy. We will likely never get a supreme Court based enough for that to happen, so we will just have to see how it inevitably plays out.
 
I'm very happy Trump and Elon are just throwing everything in the woodchipper at this point- it's refreshing and has probably needed to be done for a very long time.

That's my thinking. Even if it fails spectacularly, at least something completely different was tried for once.
 
Gay New York Judge creating constitutional crisis by just saying "no you can't do your job under the executive branch"
Libs have completely forgotten how much the power of the government rests on the perception of legitimacy. The only think stopping the President from disobeying a judge is the threat of impeachment. Impeachment is political, and Congress can only pull it off if the public perceives what the President did as bad. It's political suicide to remove your own party's president if your voters approve of what he did.

If a judge's order is absurd enough a President can safely ignore it. Imagine if a judge ordered the President to vacate of the White House. Or ordered the President to invade Brazil. You can probably think of something where the President would tell the judge to fuck off, Congress would do nothing...and then that would fundamentally change the relationship between the Executive and the Judicial branches.

Liberal judges are coming really, really dangerously close to delegitimizing the concept of judicial review in the public's eyes. They hate Trump so much they're willing to destroy everything...for what? To keep Haitians coming into Ohio?
 
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