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Should be a wild four years.

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If you're fighting other members of the working class, the ruling class is winning.
I entirely agree with that, and I hate it because it's fucking impossible. I'm entirely down with saying "fuck arguing over what system of Government is optimal at the moment, let's get rid of the Oligarchs first."

The problem is that Leftists, even ones who I see actively agreeing with that sentiment, are completely incapable of giving up trannyism and other sexual deviancy. They talk about the working class coming together to fight for their own interests, but when they say that, all they really mean is "everybody becomes a Leftist."

The worst example of this was the Healthcare CEO shooting. You finally have a situation where the Dissident Right and Woke Left are in agreement on something, and I saw a lot of Leftists posting exactly what I just said, that IDPOL is being used as a wedge to prevent working class populism. But any positive impressions I had all were immediately ruined as their rhetoric turned into the usual "Right-wingers must give up their hateful, transphobic ways" shit.

The only way to work with the Woke Left is to agree with them uncompromisingly, and in entirety. They would much rather let the Ruling Class get everything they ever wanted than try to compromise with Right-wing values.
 
The problem is that Leftists, even ones who I see actively agreeing with that sentiment, are completely incapable of giving up trannyism and other sexual deviancy. They talk about the working class coming together to fight for their own interests, but when they say that, all they really mean is "everybody becomes a Leftist."

I remember from some r/antiwork on reddit a person telling a tranny if they want to achive their political goals then they need the support of working people like truckers etc

the reply was something like "those icky people want me dead"
 
They would much rather let the Ruling Class get everything they ever wanted than try to compromise with Right-wing values.
Left parties refusing to coalition with moderate right parties is how Hitler became chancellor without a majority. The socjus left hate to be reminded of this fact; it crushes their entire foundational narrative.
 
All right, so the rumour mill is currently churning out claims, that DOGE would appoint Ron Paul to head the auditing of the Federal Reserve. Is there any indication this might be true or is it just regular Xitter/pol/ sperging?
I don't see what use Ron Paul would be in the technical aspects of auditing the fed, but he'd be a hell of a symbolic leader of that particular audit
 
I beleive this is the case where one of Musk's companies(don't recall which) was trying to give him his shareholder approved compensation, but a judge said it was too much.
Yes. Some activist leftist law firm got a guy with 9 shares (Tesla has millions) to object, and the judge, seeing a great opportunity to fuck Elon over -- she was the same one that forced him to buy Twitter after he tried to back out, rightfully pointing out it was mostly bots and thus not worth as much as he had offered -- declared the compensation package illegal.

Not illegal: The 3.5 billion dollar in legal fees the law firm then claimed Tesla/Elon owed them, again with the blessing of the judge. THAT was cut down to a mere 333 million on appeal.

It was a blatant, blatant violation of standards and precedent, specifically under the same legal theory of "fuck the enemies of the left" she used to force him to buy Twitter, and has caused a mass exodus from the state by corporations. In short, it's another instance of the left shooting themselves in the foot: Delaware's entire reason for being was to be a tax haven for corporations, but if some judge can declare the entire running of your corporation to be subject to judicial fiat, and you owe the activist rat fucks that pull the lolsuits on you billions with a capital B for the privilege of being fucked over without lube, then it's not worth it.

Compensation package, btw, was something like "If I can make the value of your company go up 1200% you give me 12% the current worth of the company, if I can't, I get nothing." He did, but they said that was too much money. Remembering that this was while Tesla was actively being targeted for stock price subversion via various jews on Wall Street.
 
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Yes. Some activist leftist law firm got a guy with 9 shares (Tesla has millions) to object, and the judge, seeing a great opportunity to fuck Elon over -- she was the same one that forced him to buy Twitter after he tried to back out, rightfully pointing out it was mostly bots and thus not worth as much as he had offered -- declared the compensation package illegal.

Not illegal: The 3.5 billion dollar in legal fees the law firm then claimed Tesla/Elon owed them, again with the blessing of the judge. THAT was cut down to a mere 333 million on appeal.

It was a blatant, blatant violation of standards and precedent, specifically under the same legal theory of "fuck the enemies of the left" she used to force him to buy Twitter, and has caused a mass exodus from the state by corporations. In short, it's another instance of the left shooting themselves in the foot: Delaware's entire reason for being was to be a tax haven for corporations, but if some judge can declare the entire running of your corporation to be subject to judicial fiat, then it's not worth it.
When people say red states are dumb I'm glad we can't point to California and Delaware as states showing Ton's of failure.
 
lol, so that judicial order not only has a TRO against DOGE working on the Treasury data, it includes a demand that they immediately destroy all data they've already collected since Trump was elected. (A)

You know, temporarily permanently destroy it.

Still no law or legal standard cited, this is literally just a judge going "oh shit no you can't do that, we'll think of a reason why after you start paying us again."

This is all from an motion (Ex Parte?) where the Trump admin and DOGE wasn't even allowed to state their case before the TRO went in place. And they did it on the weekend so there would be no responding to it until Monday.
 
lol, so that judicial order not only has a TRO against DOGE working on the Treasury data, it includes a demand that they immediately destroy all data they've already collected since Trump was elected. (A)

You know, temporarily permanently destroy it.

Still no law or legal standard cited, this is literally just a judge going "oh shit no you can't do that, we'll think of a reason why after you start paying us again."

This is all from an motion (Ex Parte?) where the Trump admin and DOGE wasn't even allowed to state their case before the TRO went in place. And they did it on the weekend so there would be no responding to it until Monday.
The TRO even purports to bar the Treasury Secretary himself from looking at the data

It's pure bullshit and will never survive the Supreme Court, if it even goes that far. It will be emergency appealed for a stay and win that while the issue is being fully litigated, it will have stopped DOGE for a whole two days over the weekend
 
lol, so that judicial order not only has a TRO against DOGE working on the Treasury data, it includes a demand that they immediately destroy all data they've already collected since Trump was elected. (A)

You know, temporarily permanently destroy it.

Still no law or legal standard cited, this is literally just a judge going "oh shit no you can't do that, we'll think of a reason why after you start paying us again."

This is all from an motion (Ex Parte?) where the Trump admin and DOGE wasn't even allowed to state their case before the TRO went in place. And they did it on the weekend so there would be no responding to it until Monday.
I've been enjoying the desperate attempts at delaying it. You only have 1441 days to go!
 
The TRO even purports to bar the Treasury Secretary himself from looking at the data

It's pure bullshit and will never survive the Supreme Court, if it even goes that far. It will be emergency appealed for a stay and win that while the issue is being fully litigated, it will have stopped DOGE for a whole two days over the weekend
Theorycrafting: They're hoping the autists at DOGE kept working, so they can claim contempt of court and put the kids in jail for the next ~4 years.
 
It was a blatant, blatant violation of standards and precedent, specifically under the same legal theory of "fuck the enemies of the left" she used to force him to buy Twitter, and has caused a mass exodus from the state by corporations. In short, it's another instance of the left shooting themselves in the foot: Delaware's entire reason for being was to be a tax haven for corporations, but if some judge can declare the entire running of your corporation to be subject to judicial fiat, and you owe the activist rat fucks that pull the lolsuits on you billions with a capital B for the privilege of being fucked over without lube, then it's not worth it.
I asked the Twitter LLM about it, and these were the relevant bits.
  1. Legal and Judicial Review:
    • The case brought attention to how Delaware's Court of Chancery handles corporate disputes. The decision raised questions about judicial overreach versus protecting shareholder interests, fueling debates on whether state courts should have the power to retroactively alter or void corporate decisions like compensation packages. This could lead to a reevaluation of how much deference should be given to corporate boards by the judiciary.
  2. Shareholder Rights and Influence:
    • The ruling underscored the power of minority shareholders to challenge significant corporate decisions, potentially emboldening more shareholder activism. However, it also led to debates on whether such judicial actions undermine the democratic process where shareholders vote on matters like executive compensation. There's now a more pronounced discussion about the balance between judicial oversight and shareholder autonomy.
From what I can read into this, it means that there is now precedent in Delaware that decisions made by the shareholders of a company can be voided or changed depending on how a judge was feeling that day, or the whims of Johnny Fuckville with 1 share gumming up the works because he has time and money to burn. No wonder companies might be moving out, especially if Tesla doesn't challenge the ruling as a particular Fuck You and leaves it on the books as legal precedent with nobody else able to challenge it without case standing, which they don't presumably have.
 
Theorycrafting: They're hoping the autists at DOGE kept working, so they can claim contempt of court and put the kids in jail for the next ~4 years.
Judges let off the government all day every day for not following judicial orders, at best somewhere down the road the appellate judge(s) get pissed and then the government complies with the original ruling. If this judge is so retarded as to rule contempt immediately and demand arrest and incarceration, the DOJ, which is responsible for enforcing contempt orders, would say they're in custody while they're in some DC hotel suite full of PCs still doing their thing, or DOJ would set up some Goodfellas situation for them with just as many PCs at the Federal Bureau of Prisons building in DC
 
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