Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

If the judge reduces this by as much as a dime he's still playing tard guard, imo.

He should reduce it by exactly a dime.

The dime that Russ isn’t paying.

 

[Catgirls are Love]

So far the entire judicial system has gone out of their way to please (or at this point explicitly fellate) the retarded mong and all of his bullshit claims, for YEARS. Why would they suddenly change the tune?

There's a difference between "Yuh Honar, I bes twuh stupeds tah knuw wha tah dos" and "That thing you just instructed me to do? I'm refusing to do it". I don't see any Judge worth anything smiling upon someone who is increasingly doing the later.

 

[FamicomGorby]

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THAT JOSHUA NULL MOON ISN'T GETTING ONE RED CENT FROM GREER!

The Judge straight up told Greer that Hardin didn't violate the SPO, how the fuck is he still on that?

 

[GloriousScarf]

At this point in my life I hope I live to see the end of this case.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

My biggest disappointment in Hardin through all of this is that he’s a LEXIS loser instead of a WestLaw chad.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

This lawsuit is seriously impacting Mr. Greer's capacity to mass harass and scold solicit sex workers on social media. Plaintiff hereby asks the court to dismiss this case without prejudice and forgive all of his minor errors that were caused by confusion because he is a pro se person. Plaintiff is drafting a kick ass new lawsuit that will knock this supposed neutral third party buddy boy into next week and requests the court dismiss this case so he can work on that one.

 

[Artificial Stupidity]

Hardin is the goat !
Null got lucky with a very fun lawyer.

How does Hardin keep his cool? My guess is he files these things pissing himself laughing.

What can happen next? Will the case continue and fees increase? Will Greer never take another hooker out for food?

Find out next time on lolsuit the movie.

 

[AnOminous]

And now the retard has to respond by Feb. 18 to the fees and costs, and by Feb. 24 to show cause why he shouldn't be sanctioned AGAIN for the Steve Taylor nonsense.

Hardin withdrew that. The sanctions for that were based on Russ deliberately trying to tamper with Taylor. Taylor was dead at the time, so even if that was Russ's intention, he couldn't have actually done it. He's reserved the right to file for sanctions on some other theory, though, for Russ lying to the court about a man three months dead being "eager" to testify.

 

[Swole McPole]

So far the entire judicial system has gone out of their way to please (or at this point explicitly fellate) the retarded mong and all of his bullshit claims, for YEARS. Why would they suddenly change the tune?

Because I couldn't bear the suspense of waiting for these motions to drop, yesterday I dug out and listened to the recording of Greer in his Arianna Grande case.

Judge in that case did no fellating whatsoever. He tore Russell a brand new asshole. And Russell politely bent over while the judge did the tearing.

I was surprised by all kinds of things in the hearing. I was surprised by the extent of Russell's utter retardation when it comes to the law. We used to have a thing called A level law in the UK. It was the lowest grade of legal qualification that existed. It was something that kids studied in high school at the age of 17 or 18. Russell's grasp of the law was significantly less competent than I'd expect from somebody who had an A level in law. He had no clue whatsoever. It was as though he'd read the titles of various laws and thought he'd be able to cram his plights into those titles, while having no grasp at all of any of the fundamental legal principles involved, and even less grasp of the legal procedures he was supposed to follow.

Judge was standing for none of it. So much so that I thought the judge went out of his way to force his cock down Russell's throat. Greer had made a few comments online. He'd said things like 'when I get into court, I'm going to use my evidence to kick (opposing lawyer) on his ass'. And 'my trial happens today and there will be blood.' I thought they were obviously rhetorical bombast and no sensible person would regard them as actual threats. Judge felt the exact opposite and made Russell grovel in apology.

Then he found there was no merit to the case, Greer had brought it in bad faith and awarded full costs to the other side. Judge made much of the fact that this wasn't Greer's first ride on the legal merry-go-round and that he was clearly doing it for nefarious motives. He suggested attention, but you couldn't escape the impression that the judge thought he was doing it because he was a depraved sex freak.

You forgot $0

Also $about tree fiddy.

 

[AnOminous]

Seems nice of Hardin to only list the fees that Null actually paid instead of his Fitzpatrick rate of $669. Any idea why he wouldn't have invoiced Russ for the full value of his time?

I'm pretty sure he's being excruciatingly careful not to seem to be bullying the tard. IMO he could have been well within the bounds of reasonableness to move for $20K or more and then let the magistrate reduce it. Instead, he's charged a very modest amount for the sheer amount of Russhole retardation everyone has had to endure, while explaining he could easily have asked for a lot more.

I thought about removing the digging guy but then I realized it's a great metaphor for Greer continuing to dig the hole deeper.

That amount isn't actually true. The magistrate hasn't yet ruled on it. This is just Hardin's request.

Greer, if you're reading this, recall the happiness you felt when you won the appeal in the 10th Circuit. That victory led to this 5K invoice, which will likely continue to increase from now on.

Serves him right for trusting those two scumbags.

etc. etc. etc. -- that's the Erika chick, right? The one whose interactions are featured on his Encyclopedia Dramatica page?

Yes, that's the one where he managed to turn a deferred adjudication into a criminal conviction with his bizarre antics. It's also the one we saw on video where he was twitching and seething, looking like a greasy psycho, while begrudgingly copping his guilty plea.

Holy cow, at $300/hour for litigation work, Hardin is REALLY giving Null a sweetheart deal. I know it had been described as such already, but that's practically paralegal rates.

Throw in that he's not even billing for a lot of incidental bullshit that itself takes up time and causes a lot of frustration and it's considerably less than that. Some lawyers also bill in blocks of an hour for anything, even answering an email, and even those who don't often bill for even the most trivial things.

One of the more common ones I've seen is splitting each hour into ten units 6 minutes long and billing a minimum of 6 minutes for anything, and billing for absolutely anything. There's even software that helps you do this. (In fact, I believe Hardin is doing exactly this, minus the billing for trivialities thing, because all the time-related amounts are divisible by 6.)

 

[Kosher Dill]

All right Judgey-Boy, the ball's in your court now. Are you going to toss out these sanctions or are we going to have to get the 10th Circuit back in here to slap you with a rolled-up newspaper en banc?

 

[Magnificent Penis]

If you think banking on tecknially was a smart move, I'd say yours is the more retarded take. The point is he was being deceptive and disingenuous in the way he mentioned all of it, and getting cute with this kind of thing is a bad idea. It was transparent from the jump - the way he described all of his outcomes was slippery at best, and it was obvious it was not fully truthful even not actually knowing what the outcomes were. Trying to poison the well with references to a restraining order was similarly deceptive - but it had to wait for the process. Hardin knows it. The judge knows it. And now Russ has to try to plight or "Greer shouldn't be punished for his clear misrepresentations because Greer did not understand that lying to a court was wrong" his way out of it.

It may be coincidental that this was decided on the eve of when Greer is supposed to be negotiating in good faith about his penalty for bad, wasteful, and deceptive behavior. Or maybe not.

But I've been saying it for months: this judge is not stupid nor blinded.

I actually agree with you. It's why I mentioned that Hardin will bring up "gamesmanship" to hit Greer, and I think it will work.

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

How on brand of Russ to try to ignore things until after the deadline and then say NO U.

 

[Thomas Talus]

Is it fair to assume that everyone involved in this lawsuit wants to eat a bullet for one reason or another? The judge now has to read Greer explicitly defying a court order, Greer has to pay Null and Null will never see that money since you can't get blood from a rock. Hardin may be the only one laughing right now.

There's a famous Lithograph (and multiple variations of it) called "The Law Suit," featuring a cow whose ownership is the subject of the litigation, with the parties pulling at each end of the cow, while one or more lawyers is happily milking said cow.

 

[Potentially Criminal]

As I thought, Hardin came in with a pretty modest amount that by no means even reaches much less exceeds the amount of effort that went into this. If the judge reduces this by as much as a dime he's still playing tard guard, imo.

I'll also note his Supplemental Declaration contains a detailed explanation of what the fees and costs were for, as well as an invoice detailing each line item with specificity, most of them for less than an hour, with no sloppy "block billing" that can result in a lowering of the award.

It's very fair billing by Hardin.

 

[goblin enby]

I sense a significant bout of recalcitrance is incoming from Mr. Greer no matter how painstakingly the magistrate or district judge explain why he in fact did not fully comply with the discovery rules.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Greer is gonna appeal the sanctions award to the ADMIRALTY COURT! It's fucking over bros!

 

[Swole McPole]

So because Greer has been granted in forma pauperis status in the actual case, are the courts obliged to grant him the same status when it comes to his appeal?

And does he have an automatic right to appeal the costs order against him, or can the courts just say 'We think your grounds for appealing are retarded. Fuck off and get back to Door Dash because you need to pay that man his money!'

 

[AnOminous]

And, sing it with me if you know the words, where the hell is the damn District Judge with his ruling on the idiot's damn stupid objection?

I will note that District Judge David Barlow, just since January 1, 2024, has had 116 cases assigned to him, and that's just those that are in the CourtListener archive. There are probably more. Lots of them are between large corporations suing for enormous amounts of money for patent, trademark, or copyright infringement.

On top of that, the judge actually needs to do a de novo review of the whole issue. That's according to the rule. If Russhole keeps bugging the judge and forcing him to do the magistrate's work again, the judge will probably withdraw the reference to the magistrate and chuck the case personally, as now retired District Judge Tena Campbell did WITH THIS VERY SAME MAGISTRATE IN THIS VERY CASE.

Give that some thought.

 

[Meat Target]

TRAU-MA-LUMPS!
TRAU-MA-LUMPS!
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