The need for the complete extermination of the adobe software devs

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I have watched over the past decade adobe software fall into this pit of complete big tech brainrot, like it's possible they might be the worse offenders of completely retarded and hostile design I have ever seen.

They hide vital tools in bizarre places to make the interface cleaner, it's unbelievably poorly optimized, they're not just unaccommodating, but literally hostile to linux users, they eliminate or hide functions in order to encourage use of their cloud or various other products, the subscription model is terrible, errors pop up and kill the program constantly, etc. There are just so many problems. Everything is as completely awful as it could possibly ever be, but because they have a couple cutting edge tools, they're considered the standard. Meanwhile, it's easier to make like things in completely free and open-source software, mostly because they're better optimized and things are ordered properly, by good, homebrewing autists and not Silicon Valley marketers with ulterior motives.

I started using photoshop in like 2014 and it was great, but eveything has gotten worse with tech advancement somehow. They advertise as necessary for medium sized businesses, but completely suck ass and are hostile to mid-level use in every way. I just hate them. They represent my least favorite changes in software.

I think the only answer is for either A) a pol pot style extermination of every developer working for them or B) a penal colony with sufficient land barrier to keep their genes and ideas out of the general population forever. Thank you for your time.
 
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It's morally correct to pirate adobe software.
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Red flaming panda said:
It's morally correct to pirate adobe software.
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Good luck with that.

I think Adboe is fine from an UI/UX standpoint, but it is suffering from bloat. Like I don't want bloody weird AI prompts, I don't want cache to generate a terabyte of video an hour, I don't want to have to be connected to their cloud thingy all the time. Just optimize the damn thing so my computer doesn't overheat when I have to render something.
 
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Take out the Adobe devs and there are 1.4 billion potential replacements waiting in the wings. Scale up.
 
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I have a VM dedicated to a pirated Adobe suite, but I'd really just use any open source alternatives unless you have strong use cases.
Photopea and Pikimov have recreated photoshop and after effects in browser, both are pretty good at this point.
 
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worse offenders of completely retarded and hostile design I have ever seen. [...] They hide vital tools in bizarre places to make the interface cleaner, it's unbelievably poorly optimized
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That's Google, this isn't up for debate, they need to get that treatment you described before anyone else. Adobe is for the most part just following the industry-wide trends set by Google, Microsoft, Apple and a few more (depending on the time window you're looking at) that focus on taking everything away from the user. Those "engineers" will read Steve Krug's works (if even that) and somehow come to the only, utterly insane conclusion that the user is stupid, incompetent, and has the attention span of a CS major high on ritalin grinding programming riddles written by indians between outdoors toilet breaks, with the greatest ambition in life to get a cozy job at a FAGMAN company redesigning the same button 3 times a week while sipping on overpriced lattes. And they will write blogposts about how superior they are for taking all those things away, how exposing complex behavior is the root of all evil because it's too much work for them and their little brains, and they're doing you a favor: they know better. This is obviously insane and every 60 years old using Excel in ways they could have not ever conceived would cause them an aneurysm.

Adobe doesn't have good competition professionally, and their products don't need to change meaningfully each year. (and shouldn't, because everyone hates their workflow being messed with!) CS6 would still be enough for most people 13 years later, except for not supporting formats and codecs, some QoL changes and probably a ton of unpatched security vulnerabilities. But they're entrenched and make use of that, similarly the people employed by them will find ways to fuck with the software for personal gain internally. And most people are getting accustomed to subscription-based software and not owning their tools nor work, why not do just as much? It's not like they were loved by anyone this decade or the one before it, and one more.

It's not a solution for anyone unlucky enough to need to use them for work, but I'm glad Krita and other FOSS projects (and I guess photopea is okay for being web based too, just not open) have filled the gap GIMP could never because of its formerly namesake GUI toolkit and their own questionable philosophies. Maybe one of those will have their Blender moment eventually and stop the chase game with at least Photoshop, and at least you own the software and are not hostage to some corporation whose incentives internal and external are all against you the user.
 
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I swear there was a thread somewhere bringing up alternatives to Adobe apps, both paid and open source.
 
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I swear there was a thread somewhere bringing up alternatives to Adobe apps, both paid and open source.
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For some indesign/ acrobat functions, there's Scribus, which is great. Its design is extremely utilitarian and actually makes goddamn sense, because it was made by people who are normal and not ghouls. Like was mentioned, Krita is also good, especially for digital art and the like.
 
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For some indesign/ acrobat functions, there's Scribus, which is great. Its design is extremely utilitarian and actually makes goddamn sense, because it was made by people who are normal and not ghouls. Like was mentioned, Krita is also good, especially for digital art and the like.
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How's DaVinci Resolve (assuming you've even used it let alone work in video editing)? I have Premiere but like all of Adobe apps it runs like shit so I'd be open to any better alternatives out there.
 
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For some indesign/ acrobat functions, there's Scribus, which is great. Its design is extremely utilitarian and actually makes goddamn sense, because it was made by people who are normal and not ghouls. Like was mentioned, Krita is also good, especially for digital art and the like.
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I don't do super intense professional level graphics work or anything but I've used Krita and GIMP for a bunch of stuff and there was nothing I missed from adobe stuff. I really like Krita. It feels like using professional software.

Ardour is also a great replacement for Audition. Ardour with JACK and the massive collection of tools and plugins available on Linux is honestly hands down the coolest audio production environment I've used. Your entire computer basically becomes a recording studio and you can route audio from any JACK enabled software to any other JACK enabled software letting you do some super cool shit. JACK enabled software can be anything from vst instruments and effects to sequencers or mixers or anything you want.

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I used to be a fan of Photoshop until the subscription shit started. But at this point, I'd rather use Paint Tool Sai, it's way easier to use and can save files as PSDs if you want. But in case I want to mess with it, what is the latest version of Photoshop I can get away with pirating?

I rue the day Adobe bought Flash though, I still remember when it was owned by Macromedia.
 
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