Canada is a failed state

[Hokuriku]

I can smell the money leveraged debt from here.

What a ghoulishly artificial production.

All for 460 views. Great job!

 

[Lei Wulong's Left Leg]

This talk of a 51st state has reminded a larger populace of a question that nobody seems prepared to answer: What is the Canadian identity? And I'm not going to say it's "being flooded with Indians" or any of the other modern-age defeatist bullshit I have to hear ad naseum in this thread when I just want to know what's actually happening. What is our culture? And to be frank, many people can't answer those kinds of questions, because the inability to answer it means by and large that everything they do in their day-to-day life has no connection to their country.
When you think Canadian culture, mostly you go to politeness, healthcare, the inclement weather, maple syrup, a questionable donut chain, Quebecois nationalism, and if you're a history nerd, the unnerving attitude of Canadian soldiers overseas. The fact is, there has never been a need to be proud of being Canadian. It was enough to simply be a fucking leaf that was good enough for most people; We had some qualities that put us above our southern neighbors. We had no pride in our country because there was no need for it.
And then COVID happened, and the world got a whole lot more lonely, and a whole lot more expensive.
I'm not going to pretend things weren't bad before 2020, that our healthcare system wasn't going tits-up fast, or that homelessness and the drug problem out west was getting worse, but it wasn't until we were forced to hang on the every words of our less-than-fearless leaders that we really began to notice just how bad things were. Plenty of people would(and still do) willingly close their eyes and plug their ears to the problem, feigning indifference or denial to the fact that our once-good state of being has bled out like a fresh animal on the hook. The Canadian identity could be easily summed up as "Well, it's an alright place to be, and that's all that matters". And now it isn't, and people can't wrap their head around the idea that our way has been effectively lost. Or even worse, we never really had a way to lose to begin with.
This talk of strengthening our "National identity" from the Libs is worthless. Canada never had an identity to begin with. We existed. Ours was not to change the world, merely make our own lives good. And now with cost of living on the rise, real estate out of control, drug problems, a government spending our tax dollars on lavish private jets, and letting third worlders leech off our system just to leave back to whatever shithole they came from to live like barons, we don't even have that. Canada is the ATM nation, a place where people take our money and give nothing in return. I should only hope that we have the sense to forge a new identity before this ATM runs dry.

 

[spurggist]

Though people shit on quebec endlessly, its the only place in the great post-national shithole of new-punjab that has (for a couple more years at least) its own unique culture.

 

[Brutality]

Though people shit on quebec endlessly, its the only place in the great post-national shithole of new-punjab that has (for a couple more years at least) its own unique culture.

Until it gets taken over by haitians

 

[spurggist]

Until it gets taken over by haitians

Indeed and other interest groups, why id give it a few more years

 

[Cheetahman]

When you think Canadian culture, mostly you go to politeness, healthcare, the inclement weather, maple syrup, a questionable donut chain, Quebecois nationalism, and if you're a history nerd, the unnerving attitude of Canadian soldiers overseas. The fact is, there has never been a need to be proud of being Canadian.

For the sake of argument, can you provide a sincere definition of X culture for another country?
Politeness, healthcare, bad weather, etc are stereotypes. You might as well say that obesity is American identity.

 

[Lei Wulong's Left Leg]

For the sake of argument, can you provide a sincere definition of X culture for another country?
Politeness, healthcare, bad weather, etc are stereotypes. You might as well say that obesity is American identity.

That's sort of my point, though. Canadian culture isn't much more than a collection of stereotypes as seen from an outsider. The vast majority of Canadians have no connection to their country beyond it being the place where they live.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Cross posting from the US politics thread.

So hard to say if our shitposter in chief is serious or not. Part of me thinks he is. The other part is he's playing hardball and reminding Ottawa who is in charge here, Bane style.

 

[Brutality]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/stephen-harper-canada-us-independence-b2696952.html

It seems even the best of us arent immune from TDS

 

[karaokeman]

Canadian identity is British North American with a French element, it's always been, we are similar to America but with British and French characteristics.

Our culture is intertwined with all things American, but the British element kept us more compliant and bureaucratic than Americans, and the French aspect kept us in tune with Continental Europe. We are fundamentally religiously Christian, English Protestant and French Catholic are our founding nations. Hockey is our national sport, which aligned us with the Northern Europeans. Canadian laws and customs are fundamentally derived from Great Britain, France, and New England (Northeast USA).

Most of what I have said are rather outdated because Canada decided in the 1980's to constitutionally mandate multiculturalism, and combined with mass immigration policies, this suppressed our native culture.

You'd find it hard to believe, but Brampton and Toronto were once governed as English Protestant parishes and were strong Conservative strongholds up until the 1980's.

Of course, the Boomers know all of this, which begs the question how on Earth could they live with themselves knowing all of this?

That was all destroyed.

 

[Brutality]

Well the conservative candidate in my area is a jeet. Guess I'll wait and see who the PPC runs

 

[DiscoRodeo]

The British culture in north America is just academic. We're not really British. British descent, but meh

If you want actual Canadian culture, it depends on the province, but the most Canadian stereotypical culture is hoser culture.

Maybe if you go to the shield you'll get actual Canadian culture, but if you live south of it and in Toronto, there literally is no Canadian culture and it's just America lite.

We're a frontier nation. Imagine the US west and Texas, but instead with the Tundra.

Unfortunately, most Canadians now live in the GTA. Equating GTA culture with the rest of Canada is a damned effort which would be like equating Austin with the rest of Texas.

Maybe once upon a time Toronto or Montreal operated as the gatehouses to the frontier to the north, but no longer. Instead both are rubbish bins for the third world

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Rise up timbit taliban, we must die for our punjabi replacements, be a good guilty colonizer and die for the owner class

I would rather due fragging my Laurentian Elite officer or just straight up collaborating with the American Liberators so I can be part of the Vichy administration.

That's sort of my point, though. Canadian culture isn't much more than a collection of stereotypes as seen from an outsider. The vast majority of Canadians have no connection to their country beyond it being the place where they live.

This novel by Ken McGoogan does a great job explaining how and Canadians are so cucked (he is your bog standard historian shitlib) so it's not really what he was going for, but he makes a good point inadvertently. He covers Celtic people in general since the majority of Canadians are either Irish or Scottish ancestry (barring the Germans and Ukrainians on the Prairies)

The best chapters are on the Arctic explorers, Fur trappers, and Pirate Queen Grace O'Malley.

I still feel patriotic when I hear Canada's old national anthem "The Maple Leaf Forever"

"The Thistle, Shamrock, Rose entwine" --> That is what Canada is supposed to be.

Guess the Leaf won't be forever.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

For the sake of argument, can you provide a sincere definition of X culture for another country?
Politeness, healthcare, bad weather, etc are stereotypes. You might as well say that obesity is American identity.

Jeets shit on the street, scam everyone and everything and generally have no decency or respect.

That's a culture.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Spoiler they won't

 

[YautjaWeeb]

Though MSM is pretending it's not happening, the prorogation court challenge is currently underway. So far it sounds like the court isn't dismissing the plaintiff arguments out of hand which is pleasantly surprising. Cue rainbows.

Rainbows is right they are just creating the impression it was legally considered. Holy shit why would they ever rule against the government or do anything democratic when they can just say 'sorry not sorry, its the law' regardless of what could ever be proven or presented.

 

[karaokeman]

The British culture in north America is just academic. We're not really British. British descent, but meh

If you want actual Canadian culture, it depends on the province, but the most Canadian stereotypical culture is hoser culture.

Maybe if you go to the shield you'll get actual Canadian culture, but if you live south of it and in Toronto, there literally is no Canadian culture and it's just America lite.

We're a frontier nation. Imagine the US west and Texas, but instead with the Tundra.

Unfortunately, most Canadians now live in the GTA. Equating GTA culture with the rest of Canada is a damned effort which would be like equating Austin with the rest of Texas.

Maybe once upon a time Toronto or Montreal operated as the gatehouses to the frontier to the north, but no longer. Instead both are rubbish bins for the third world

That's a rubbish and frankly a dumb way of looking at it. Montreal is over 383 years old but you're going to tell me that the Praires dictate our culture?

And you're literally calling Ontario and Quebec, America-lite, and yet you're ignoring the fact that the Praires are literally an extension of Midwestern USA.

The Great Lakes and the Saint Lawrence valley has always been our most populated regions since Samuel de Champlain landed on these shores in 1608.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

That's a rubbish and frankly a dumb way of looking at it. Montreal is over 383 years old but you're going to tell me that the Praires dictate our culture?

And you're literally calling Ontario and Quebec, America-lite, and yet you're ignoring the fact that the Praires are literally an extension of Midwestern USA.

The Great Lakes and the Saint Lawrence valley has always been our most populated regions since Samuel de Champlain landed on these shores in 1608.

The problem with Canada is that it has always been defined by its government. It has never been anything but.

 

[BeetleBug242]

 

[Hokuriku]

Rainbows is right they are just creating the impression it was legally considered. Holy shit why would they ever rule against the government or do anything democratic when they can just say 'sorry not sorry, its the law' regardless of what could ever be proven or presented.

My impression from the gallery notes is that the govts arguments so far have been marginally retarded.