US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
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[Nuns with guns]

When is he gonna kidnap Francis?

That would probably be the single most based move Trump could make.

 

[Mr. Manchester]

Vance will carry the torch come 2028, and will do so while being undeniably presidential. The Dems had Obama, and are still running on his fumes. An orator of that caliber is once in a generation, and now they have NO ONE in their lineup to can go toe-to-toe with Vance. So they'll double down on the couch fucking shit. It's all they have.

A lot of Obama's skill came from the fact that he was able to be cool while making a point, and as much as I dislike him that's exactly what he did. Guy would show up, point out a bunch of things wrong, imply that Bush was an evil moron while presenting himself as the alternative. He embodied what it was to be a progressive at the time and if you were someone who was affected by one of the problems he was talking about (namely healthcare and watching Iraq vets come back looking like they lost their minds) he seemed like a godsend. It did help that GW Bush, Dick Chaney really, was pretty god damn evil.

Vance's style is completely different. For as much as Reddit likes to talk about "muh logic an facts", Vance actually does it and can do it in record time. He'll bring up a couple of examples of things going to shit and then pinpoint his exact solution to them and exactly why it'll work in under a minute. The debate where Tim Waltz looked like he saw a ghost was a perfect example of that, the two hags moderating barely had a chance to cut him off and when they did he was clear enough that you could hear him anyway.

Honestly the two of them would have one hell of a debate, I'd love to see it. I don't think modern Obama can hold a candle to Vance though, he lost all his power when he mic dropped his cell phone and was proven wrong.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

The Germans won't, seems as Ze Germans banned a popular party from becoming too powerful to protect their democracy (tm).

Makes you wonder who has the most to fear from Hitler 2.0, because IIRC, he didn't gas or oven and Christians or Germans.

There is an obvious irony to the Germans calling Trump "Hitler" when they're the ones banning democratically elected opposition parties and praising the cancellation of elections in other countries because a party won that they did not like.

 

[Potatoherder]

Europeans complaining about a lecture from the US?

It's high time we broke free from the backwards mindset we got into during WW1. The idea we need to get approval from europoors when we are in fact better than them.

 

[Dan Abrams]

Am I the only one that thinks RFK Jr trying to blanket ban mental health meds is gonna be a shitshow?
Schizophrenics can't be fixed with a "wellness camp."

Are you a literal Down syndrome retard or a shill spreading FUD?

 

[lol cow supreme]

(I do wonder why families with only tiny children get as much EBT as families with constantly hungry teenagers, seems unfair somehow.)

Hunger is a great motivator, and those older teenagers can either work, or use their hunger to motivate their non working parent to go earn so they can have more food. Also, the parents can work now that the teenager doesnt need to be babysat.

Foodstamps should really be rations, and just barely enough for survival. That said, I would miss paying 50 cents on the dollar in cash to the non English speaking people in the grocery store so they can send my cash home to whatever shithole they are from, or Shaniqua to get a pack of smokes.

And someone asked earlier, EBT is used to buy a lot of luxury foods like really nice steaks, lobster etc by people frauding the system and they work under the table, or 2 or 3 of them claim the same kids. or they live at home with mom and dad who pay for everything but they file as if they are renting a room somewhere. Its an absolute racket.

They do need one to enter private property. But that specific bit has been lost in their fervor to 'help' the Illegals, and morphed into some sort of belief that ICE needs a warrant for an arrest.

The warrant is primarily required for search and seizure. While in hot pursuit of someone, if they feel there is a danger life, or the destruction of evidence they may forgo the warrant to secure the area. They can also in some areas when they believe a felony is currently being committed.

What the idiots arent realizing is ICE has a warrant...but not a search warrant. They have arrest warrants. Search warrants are to look for evidence of a crime. Arrest warrants are to search for and apprehend people. If police have an arrest warrant for someone, and probably cause to believe that person is in a location, they have the right to enter to search for and apprehend that person.

Also, what are they gonna do? There is no evidence that can be thrown out because it was obtained without a search warrant. The persons is getting deported.

The 4th Amendment is generally referred to as regarding privacy in someone's home. I would love to see the argument made and proven that someone in the United States illegally cannot have a home, since their act of being in the US is in itself illegal. It has been recognized however that a hotel for instance is considered someones "home" while they are paying for staying there.

 

[Dumbledore's Onlyfans]

Steaks and crab aren't where the EBT money is going. Or rather, if you see someone piling up their cart with steaks and crab, then paying for it with EBT, they're trading the steaks and crab for drugs, not eating them.

The biggest waste of EBT money happens in bodegas and small liquor stores that also sell food. The EBT recipients sell their EBT for 50 cents on the dollar in cash, and the store owner just swipes through different groceries until the card is empty and puts the groceries back on the shelf.

Some of the bodegas keep a box of products behind the counter specifically for this purpose. A lot of these bodegas run numbers or other gambling games out of their stores as well. Some sell single cigarettes and illegally packaged food such as jerky, popcorn, candy, and peanuts in the shell, bought in bulk and repackaged in small plastic sandwich bags. They rarely sell drugs out of the store, because if they lose their liquor license the game is over. Some of them will refer druggies for a finder's fee from the dealer and return EBT business from the druggie.

I know this because I used to live next door to a bodega and also bought single cigarettes, candy, jerky, and peanuts from under the counter. I had relatively friendly relations with the store owners as well (as friendly as one can get with a predator). I also got questioned by the cops the night the bodega got robbed for their gambling winnings, which they kept in cash in a floor safe. I had noticed lights left on in the store at night, but didn't know about the gambling before this point. The cops visited us pretty regularly about problems at the bodega, and that's why we kept our doors locked and drove nails the window sills so they could only be opened a few inches.

 

[Buck Broken Chimp]

I agree with Keith Woods' take on RFK.

 

[Chop Top]

He is the guy leading the charge bro. "Thou must not suffer a witch to live".

Because it is the same old argument from 2003. I was there to see it. So it just means you are ignorant of your own talking points and have 0 clue of the history of the right wing. I don't like fair weather right wingers. Its just gatekeeping bro.

I don’t pay attention to The Quartering and he’s definitely not the only person opining on the situation. That says more about your circle than it does mine.

If “don’t have broken families on purpose” is preening moralism to you and you somehow consider yourself right wing, then you are an extremely confused person indeed. I was there too, and that was NOT the moralizing being done at the time.

They moralized about violent video games while warmongering and parroting empty platitudes about Jesus, not intentionally fathering bastard children. In 2003, that was more of a common sense position. Apparently in 2025 the right wing position according to you is, “Woah dude, all families are valid bro.”

The right needs to gatekeep. Those with liberal values are only going to subvert any real right wing thought once again and we’ll end up right back where we were this time last year. Just because you’re too stupid to see that doesn’t make me a “fair weather right winger,” it makes you a gullible idiot or a temporarily embarrassed shitlib.

If broken families (done on purpose, no less) are no big deal to you, how the fuck can you say you have right wing beliefs? Not even Conservatives are as delusional and pathetic as that.

 

[ZMOT]

Am I the only one that thinks RFK Jr trying to blanket ban mental health meds is gonna be a shitshow?
Schizophrenics can't be fixed with a "wellness camp."

can also be a simple "all your meds are going away, convince me why they shouldn't".
it's like the gaza thing where everyone is apathetic, trump comes in and goes "ok, I'll take it then" and suddenly you got a flurry of activity.

People are so retarded, they don't have a clue about etiquette. Doing something for another powerful person is a sign of domination. Opening the door, for instance, is a subtle but bold power move, because it's how a man treats a lady, or a child. Leftists wouldn't know that, they don't even know what a woman is, and they kill their kids before they're even born.

I have zero idea how anyone can interpret the chair thing as anything else than "now sign this shit bish!"

 

[Squid Diddler]

First, why are you asking others to provide you information instead of looking it up yourself? Second, a very short search of Zillow shows roughly 2200 houses in DC currently for sale and of those 770 were listed in the last 15-30 days. That's more than 31% of the current listings, all put up after Trump took office. Now I don't have any historical data regarding real estate in the area (I don't care that much, look it up yourself) but sans that it's not an insignificant amount of houses and the timing lines up with Trump taking office and firing feds. Make of that what you will.

I didn’t feel like looking it up, and neither did you so get off your high horse. I was simply questioning the posts prior who were showing data with no context. The onus is on them to provide reliable information, not me. I have every right to question it.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

@Dammit Mandrake! , this isn’t at you per say, just the entire sub-topic.

The building styles aren‘t lost. You just have to draw up a decent diagram and you’re done. The problem is the current corporate-social intermingling that refuses to let people have nice things.

Dear lord I know I’m guilty of overestimating how easily we can bounce back from a bad situation, but I can literally take a long drive and find some really nice looking new construction.

There has to simply be someone that wants it, and most professional architects will still be able to build it. They’ll do it gladly because it is what they signed up for in the first place. Remember that they grew up gazing at the marvels of building construction and wanting to make their marks as well.

As someone who does construction adjacent work it really is an amazing feeling when you run into the kind of person who says "I want this nice thing and I want it done right" and I get to flex all the skills I've accrued over the decades and make/do something I'm truly proud of, especially if I'm working with some goofy irregular materials

I won't go into specifics but I was working on a proper mansion one time and the owner really went overboard and ordered an entire production lot of solid hardwood doors to be sure that every door in the place would match and when everything was done there were still 20-30 doors left over that they didn't have any use for so my dad and I gave a pitch for them and we got to repurpose them in a decorative manner and the owner was super thrilled with our idea and we got to spend a few weeks putting that plan into place.

 

[John Badman]

Are you ready to go to war with Hamas? No new wars! Unless if we bomb them

 

[just Reading a post]

I don’t pay attention to The Quartering and he’s definitely not the only person opining on the situation. That says more about your circle than it does mine.

If “don’t have broken families on purpose” is preening moralism to you and you somehow consider yourself right wing, then you are an extremely confused person indeed. I was there too, and that was NOT the moralizing being done at the time.

They moralized about violent video games while warmongering and parroting empty platitudes about Jesus, not intentionally fathering bastard children. In 2003, that was more of a common sense position. Apparently in 2025 the right wing position according to you is, “Woah dude, all families are valid bro.”

The right needs to gatekeep. Those with liberal values are only going to subvert any real right wing thought once again and we’ll end up right back where we were this time last year. Just because you’re too stupid to see that doesn’t make me a “fair weather right winger,” it makes you a gullible idiot or a temporarily embarrassed shitlib.

If broken families (done on purpose, no less) are no big deal to you, how the fuck can you say you have right wing beliefs? Not even Conservatives are as delusional and pathetic as that.

I just like my right wing fundies to be at least morally consistent and bully pagan sympathisers and other degenerates to death as well. But i bet you will twist yourself in to a knot to defend the Stolas worshipper. If we are going back to the retard fundie rules that make the right wing lose.
The least you could do is make sure you dress the fucking part.
The funny thing is, all the right wing influencers who are going after this hoe, break every other rule of the church nearly everyday. I could find you a million infractions from 1 account alone. You have fucking Milo"big black cock"yiannopoulos being the catty shit stick here. A man who is so ex-gay he still sucks dick. But i guess you will put up with him, because he is still useful i would bet?
I don't really care about this hoe. But what i care about is the right being lead in to purity spiralling that ultimately makes enemy's, drives wedges and destroys trust.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

@Justa Grata Honoria, I think you may have been right. JD Vance flat out told these fucks they're dead weight if they don't shape up, and this two-bit David Koechner lookalike's reaction is pearl clutching.

Europeans are in delulu land firstly the current social landscape doesnt allow to take from pensioners who are 20+ % in most eu countries and they vote religiously to keep their gibs and those gibs eat into everything housing, food, medical sector etc etc , next are the social parasites they imported to keep their FIRE sector afloat and line to go up they wont accept cut in gibs and vote also religiously, third are the youth who is mostly with two citizenships and will gladly pack up and leave the minute anything of this goes away . The leaders are completely inept in diplomacy and think they can clap their hands and the world will listen like its 19th century when europe was ruling the world and just manage to piss off potential allies and current allies not to mention thinking they can order how other countries produce and sell stuff I shit you not which destroys their countries more without getting anything in return beyond "access to eu market" which is worthless majority of the population are old and broke and dying . Literally dead weight . Trump knows this anyone with more than two brain cells can see this. I am fucking janitor cans see this .


You just need to let eu burn to the ground there is no saving too many layers of the society are on the dole , just pick up the skilled labour who already speaks english and put a cross on the remnants . I am not joking .

 

[FatalTater]

Hunger is a great motivator, and those older teenagers can either work, or use their hunger to motivate their non working parent to go earn so they can have more food. Also, the parents can work now that the teenager doesnt need to be babysat.

The motivated ones better be working under the table, because if the household's income goes up, the benefit amounts go down.

Maybe EBT could take children's ages into consideration, and have an amount for kids 2-9 and a slightly larger amount for kids 10-17.

 

[NSA Intern]

I just like my right wing fundies to be at least morally consistent and bully pagan sympathisers and other degenerates to death as well. But i bet you will twist yourself in to a knot to defend the Stolas worshipper. If we are going back to the retard fundie rules that make the right wing lose.
The least you could do is make sure you dress the fucking part.
The funny thing is, all the right wing influencers who are going after this hoe, break every other rule of the church nearly everyday. I could find you a million infractions from 1 account alone. You have fucking Milo"big black cock"yiannopoulos being the catty shit stick here. A man who is so ex-gay he still sucks dick. But i guess you will put up with him, because he is still useful i would bet?
I don't really care about this hoe. But what i care about is the right being lead in to purity spiralling that ultimately makes enemy's, drives wedges and destroys trust.

700 hours community penance in the Crystal, subsequent convictions will increase exponentially

 

[marvlouslie]

There is an obvious irony to the Germans calling Trump "Hitler" when they're the ones banning democratically elected opposition parties and praising the cancellation of elections in other countries because a party won that they did not like.

Just Germans doing German things.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Steaks and crab aren't where the EBT money is going. Or rather, if you see someone piling up their cart with steaks and crab, then paying for it with EBT, they're trading the steaks and crab for drugs, not eating them.

The biggest waste of EBT money happens in bodegas and small liquor stores that also sell food. The EBT recipients sell their EBT for 50 cents on the dollar in cash, and the store owner just swipes through different groceries until the card is empty and puts the groceries back on the shelf.

Some of the bodegas keep a box of products behind the counter specifically for this purpose. A lot of these bodegas run numbers or other gambling games out of their stores as well. Some sell single cigarettes and illegally packaged food such as jerky, popcorn, candy, and peanuts in the shell, bought in bulk and repackaged in small plastic sandwich bags. They rarely sell drugs out of the store, because if they lose their liquor license the game is over. Some of them will refer druggies for a finder's fee from the dealer and return EBT business from the druggie.

I know this because I used to live next door to a bodega and also bought single cigarettes, candy, jerky, and peanuts from under the counter. I had relatively friendly relations with the store owners as well (as friendly as one can get with a predator). I also got questioned by the cops the night the bodega got robbed for their gambling winnings, which they kept in cash in a floor safe. I had noticed lights left on in the store at night, but didn't know about the gambling before this point. The cops visited us pretty regularly about problems at the bodega, and that's why we kept our doors locked and drove nails the window sills so they could only be opened a few inches.

there was an asian mart I used to hit a lot that had all their stuff registered in the system as nonspecific "grocery" booze, food, keychains, whatever and it all rang up the same kosher for EBT