EU Macron calls emergency European summit on Trump, Polish minister says - It was not immediately clear which European leaders would be invited to the emergency meeting.

The meeting would take place on Monday, according to two EU officials. | Sameer Al-Doumy/AFP via Getty Images

French President Emmanuel Macron is convening European leaders for an emergency summit in Paris on Monday, according to Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday.

"I'm very glad that President Macron has called our leaders to Paris," Sikorski said, adding that he expects the European leaders to discuss "in a very serious fashion" the challenges posed by U.S. President Donald Trump.

"President Trump has a method of operating which the Russians call razvedka boyem —reconnaissance through battle: You push and you see what happens, and then you change your position. ... And we need to respond," the Polish minister said.

The meeting will take place on Monday, according to two EU officials.

It was not immediately clear whether the meeting would involve all EU leaders, or only a smaller group of countries, and if other European leaders like U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer would also be invited.

A French spokesperson was not immediately able to comment. French Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot, who was on the panel with Sikorski in Munich, didn’t confirm or deny the emergency summit.

Sikorski said later that Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk will travel on Monday at Macron's invitation to the meeting. "We need to show our strength and unity," Sikorski said in a post on social media.

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[Drihten]

These Europeans are in over their heads. China is the latest Great Power, they provoked Russia with NATO expansion, and now China is supplying Russia with armaments. The Europeans have cemented the Russia-China alliance.

None of these European countries are even close to the might of Russia and China. The USA is the preeminent Great Power but it cannot drag itself to a war over Ukraine, it has military treaty obligations to Israel and East Asia.

Ukraine is the last buffer state between Russia and NATO, incorporating it into NATO was never acceptable.

Please don't assume this is a European thing in general, this is something unique to this particular apparatchik class. Eurocrats are an incredibly arrogant and stubborn cohort and their response to Vance was incredibly typical. Thankfully more and more Europeans are growing to hate these apparatchiks and many find themselves agreeing moreso with Vance here.

 

[Strix454]

EMERGENCY MEETING: Vance told us to cool it on the censorship, quick, to the Legion of Doom headquarters!

The Legion of Doom are too competent. Its more like the Doom Factory.

Ten of the most ruthlessly self-involved super-villains on Earth comes close to describing Macron's summit.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Dear Donald Trump, we are declaring war on you. Please send us weapons because we have none of our own. Love, Europe.

The countries of the EU has weapons systems...they just all have their own. If the EU needed to go to war without the US, it would look like a potluck.

Four or five different tanks, a dozen of so APCs, and countless numbers of varying military equipment.

The benefit of the US military is everything is more or less standardized for our size.

 

[JosephStalin]

The countries of the EU has weapons systems...they just all have their own. If the EU needed to go to war without the US, it would look like a potluck.

Four or five different tanks, a dozen of so APCs, and countless numbers of varying military equipment.

The benefit of the US military is everything is more or less standardized for our size.

Nearly all European countries are also NATO members, so nearly all their stuff is also standardized and compatible with US equipment.

The Euros will bitch and complain and then go along, just like during President Trump's first term.

And not a fuck will be given by President Trump.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

I think this meeting will be about rebuilding a future with Russia as an ally/not-enemy, after gleefully marching 400k Ukrainians to their death.

The European elites - who are the same flavour of scumbag as the American uniparty, wouldn't be pissed off that someone accused them of censorship; they would revel in that compliment.

No, this meeting will be about something bigger than censorship and seems as a Ukraine/Russian peace plan is on the table, I reckon it's that.

 

[los pepes]

The thing about eurocrats is they live for meetings and summits. Any opportunity to suck each others dicks and have discussions and more discussions and make meaningless proclamations. Remember 3 years ago when the war started we got this on steroids and the net result has been basically nothing. An uptick in artillery shell production and practically nothing else of substance. Lost in all this is in their demands for a seat at the table US officials have responded by asking specifically what they are prepared to contribute troop wise to post war peace keeping in Urkaine. Essentially "if you want a seat at the table, tell us what you actually bring to the table". When put on the spot, they and we know the answer is nothing. So it's back to the kiddie table for them. Which will lead to another round of meetings and discussions and proclamations about european unity and solidarity and strength and courage and enlightenment and prosperity and independence and values and resistance to Trump.

They literally can not help themselves. It's all they know how to do. They genuinely believe if they hold enough bureaucratic ministerial meetings they can make everyone else do what they want. If they come up short? Just schedule more EU consultations! It's like a cargo cult to them. Things generally worked well enough in the past when the US was the grown up responsible for making them play nice with each other while they frittered around having meetings and conferences. So they came to believe it was the meetings and conferences themselves that were responsible.

 

[Fred Herbert]

European leaders still seem stuck in a 19th-early 20th century mindset where they actually matter in world affairs.

That hasn't been the case for quite some time. We can thank Hitler for that. Although he really just speeded up the inevitable tilt in the balances of power.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

*hon hons angrily*

 

[The Ugly One]

Leaders of dying rump states with no militaries getting together to cry about how mad they are that America is getting its shit together is hilarious.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

The British will make a nice speech and then everyone will remind them that they are not in the EU

 

[The Connected Nose]

He’s socially liberal and militaristic, so I imagine he’s probably pissed everyone off like an American Neocon would.

He got famous for criticizing Shinzo Abe, if that clarifies things.

I'm assuming part of it also being he doesn't have the spine to expel Rahm Emanuel. Pretty sure the majority of all the LGBTQMNOPBBQ+ bullshit being pushed in Japan is coming straight out of the US Ambassador's office, and the majority of people aren't having it.

So if Ishiba wants to improve his ratings, he needs to expel that kike piece of shit. Or at least convince Trump to recall him.

 

[Summer of George]

More like Emmanuel Maricon!!! Am I right, guys?!

 

[TowinKarz]

The thing about eurocrats is they live for meetings and summits. Any opportunity to suck each others dicks and have discussions and more discussions and make meaningless proclamations. Remember 3 years ago when the war started we got this on steroids and the net result has been basically nothing.

Remember 2016 when they declared they were breaking away from Trump I and looking into forming their own EU army with blackjack and hookers?

With Macron being the loudest proponent because he needed some non-French jackboots to clear the yellow vest protestors out of his Capital?

This was all BEFORE a war broke out and they got cut off from their cheap gas and slave labor. And they still couldn't get their shit together.

Nine years of meetings, and we're still at square one.

But we've had some very official looking memos released about it, I'll give them that.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Since Merkle left, Macron really wants to be seen as some *unofficial leader of all of Europe. Since 2018 he pushed for a unified EU army, and wants to see further EU centralisation. I think actions like calling for meetings, emphasising the threat of Russia whilst also making the point America will no longer protect them is some ploy for power I think, positioning himself as an authority whilst also boosting the strength of the European Union.

Whilst I'm unsure of how he'll fare in the next French election, even if he loses, French politicians stay in the game for a long time so I think being the first leader of a more unified European state is his overall endgame. He's only 47 years old, and it only took 25-30 for Europe to go from having guns and few restrictions on speech to being a totalitarian hellscape, so who's to say in another 30 'President of United States of Europe' won't be an official title and position. Hopefully his meeting will be nothing more than impotent seethe whilst America saves Europe from itself, whether the politicians in charge like it or not.

 

[TowinKarz]

Whilst I'm unsure of how he'll fare in the next French election, even if he loses, French politicians stay in the game for a long time so I think being the first leader of a more unified European state is his overall endgame.

It is, but it's also unreachable.

Only three countries' leaders had a legitimate shot at being the Prime Minister of this United States of Europe they all want....

Germany, France, and the UK

The UK Brexited out of the circus, that leaves only France and Germany.

Neither will submit to letting the other be in charge.

France's ego to accept anything less is the immovable object, Germany's aversion to doing anything to upset the status quo for fear they might cause Nazis is the irresistible force. And they lost the crucial tie-breaker when Britons said "Fuck this I'm out".

 

[>IMPLYING]

It is, but it's also unreachable.

Only three countries had a legitimate shot at being the Prime Minister of this United States of Europe they all want....

Germany, France, and the UK

The UK Brexited out of the circus, that leaves only France and Germany.

Neither will submit to letting the other be in charge, and they lost the crucial tie-breaker when Britons said "Fuck this I'm out".

True, but that'd also infer that if Germany leaves, that'd make France the sole major authority within the EU and able to accomplish that. The AFD, whilst unlikely to achieve a majority this upcoming election, want to leave the EU. If that were to pass - either this decade due to some coalition peer pressured referendum or the next - then that leaves France with no competition. Macron might be cynically looking at the Germans and deduced they're not fated to stay, or presumes they'd be too weak-willed to kowtow if they do seeing as the French will gladly protest and riot over every little thing yet the Germans appear a lot more passive in comparison. It's all autistic theory crafting but I think Macron has the sort of ego where he envisions himself as being the leader of all of Europe in more than name.

 

[Kane Lives]

Since Merkle left, Macron really wants to be seen as some *unofficial leader of all of Europe. Since 2018 he pushed for a unified EU army, and wants to see further EU centralisation. I think actions like calling for meetings, emphasising the threat of Russia whilst also making the point America will no longer protect them is some ploy for power I think, positioning himself as an authority whilst also boosting the strength of the European Union.

Whilst I'm unsure of how he'll fare in the next French election, even if he loses, French politicians stay in the game for a long time so I think being the first leader of a more unified European state is his overall endgame. He's only 47 years old, and it only took 25-30 for Europe to go from having guns and few restrictions on speech to being a totalitarian hellscape, so who's to say in another 30 'President of United States of Europe' won't be an official title and position. Hopefully his meeting will be nothing more than impotent seethe whilst America saves Europe from itself, whether the politicians in charge like it or not.

The funny thing is I actually think Macron is right in this: if the disparate states of the EU do not band together, they're at very real risk of being even more inconsequential than they already are, prey to any greater power that wants to extend their influence. If not America, then Russia.

Unfortunately, the EU is far, far too divided, and frankly too corrupt to be anything more than ineffectual in its current form.

 

[>IMPLYING]

The funny thing is I actually think Macron is right in this: if the disparate states of the EU do not band together, they're at very real risk of being even more inconsequential than they already are, prey to any greater power that wants to extend their influence. If not America, then Russia.

Unfortunately, the EU is far, far too divided, and frankly too corrupt to be anything more than ineffectual in its current form.

Europe, even when haranguing the United States, is still under the US's influence and has been pretty much irrelevant since the Suez Crisis. The best hope is that America stops the governments from killing and arresting their own citizens to better cater to immigrants. We've seen from the likes of USAID that money is funnelled into the states of Europe to help shift thinking, kill the notion of nationalism, push trans ideology/Leftist thought, etcetera (Which hopefully should be dead now), so it's not like there's anything to band together from - America is entrenched and here to stay.

The EU and its politicians are an extension of this Marxism that showed up after the fall of the Soviet Union. Macron doesn't want unity for the sake of brotherhood or the preservation of their states and identities - “There is not no such thing as French culture,” French Presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron said in Lyon at the beginning of February. - his aim, is the aim of every other globohomo, it's the eradication of their nation's respective cultures to form one super culture absent of any unique markers. I don't want Europe to unite against outside forces with its current leadership, which just wants America to stop trying to wrest the gun away so it can shoot itself.

 

[warhammerautist]

God I love /pol/ humor that is related to this thread.

 

[Necrosan]

I imagine it's going to be everything you hate from a bureaucracy. Everyone arrives in their private jets, everyone is going to say "WE NEED TO ESTABLISH A COMMISSION", "WE NEED TO FORM A COMMITTEE", and the only things they'll agree on is:

>Tangerine Palpatine is ebil
>Climate change is real
>Diversity is our strength