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Should be a wild four years.

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mindlessobserver said:
That's what happens when you ban everyone who disagrees with you from your internet hug boxes and only associate with lefty lunatics IRL, both in who gets hired in your institution and who you let into your friend group. You end up with your head completely up your ass.
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No one I know voted for Richard Nixon....

JosephStalin said:
On a different subject, those military officers who have been fired surely knew this would happen as soon as they learned of President Trump's re-election. Would also bet money sales of Pete Hegseth's most recent book jumped as soon as the news of his nomination for SecDef came out. Have read the book. Pete pulls no punches at all. Am sure President Trump read the book and the two of them came to a meeting of the minds and a rough timetable for punting people out.

Was looking for this to happen sooner than it did. Two explanations - the President wanted to wait until Pete was confirmed to start firing people, or President Trump just wanted these fuckers twisting in the wind for a while. Likely a combination of both.

Suggest we will see more firings as the service secretaries/undersecretaries are confirmed. Bet Stu Scheller (special assistant to Pete) and Matt Lohmeier (to be Undersecretary of the Air Force) can't wait to get to work, and bet certain USMC and US Space Force generals are seriously considering retirement right now, if their retirement papers haven't been submitted already.
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I'd say Trump probably was waiting on Pete's confirmation, he already possesses the authority to fire people in the military given his position as commander-in-chief, but Pete probably has advised him on generals and other officers that need to be canned for whatever bullshit they've been getting away with for a while, and which ones are actually competent. Trump had people bullshitting him all the time in his first time and he's not taking chances on that this time, not to mention the generals that straight up lied to him about troop movements.
 
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XYZpdq Jr. said:
local talk has brought up tentatively a few times around when Tulsi and RFK hopped on board the idea that the American system tends to need a two party format of adversarial system being hashed out in the crucible of truth and the marketplace of blahblahblah and we're getting increasingly fucked as it grows more and more "pants crappingly insane retards" and "the rest of America"

maybe we move back to the no-party ideal of the start of the nation, but yeah this is sorta uncharted waters if the dems can't get their shit together
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If the no-party ideal that gave way to the Federalist versus Democratic-Republican party system and the Era of Good Feelings that followed the War of 1812 is anything to go by political unity in the country is often temporary and eventually factionalism will return in some way.
 
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XYZpdq Jr. said:
local talk has brought up tentatively a few times around when Tulsi and RFK hopped on board the idea that the American system tends to need a two party format of adversarial system being hashed out in the crucible of truth and the marketplace of blahblahblah and we're getting increasingly fucked as it grows more and more "pants crappingly insane retards" and "the rest of America"

maybe we move back to the no-party ideal of the start of the nation, but yeah this is sorta uncharted waters if the dems can't get their shit together
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It's been said, "I would rather be governed by the first X names in the phone book than by the present President and Congress."

Suggest when the Constitution was drawn up the framers should have had selection for every single office at every level by a drawing of eligible names. If selected, you serve one term and one term only. Selections for legislatures and the various offices would be staggered so you always have some experienced people around. To be selected President or Vice-President you would already have had to serve a term as a Senator or Representative, and be no older than 60 at the time of selection. Same with governors and lieutenant governors, had to serve before as a state or Federal senator or representative. Person would have to pass a basic security check/physical/demonstrate ability to read/write/do arithmetic. This gets the parties and party politics completely out of it. Believe this would inject a constant dose of common sense into legislating and governing. Oversimplified but believe this would have worked better than what we have now.
 
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Breadbassket said:
If the no-party ideal that gave way to the Federalist versus Democratic-Republican Party and the Era of Good Feelings that followed the War of 1812 is anything to go by political unity in the country is often temporary and eventually factionalism will return in some way.
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Once all the bipartisan issues are solved, partisan issues are all that remains. Factionalism always springs up and its the sign that good work was done.
Side note, has the site been shitting itself today on-and-off for anyone else?
 
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I have a hard time deciding whether democrats just have latent pedophilic tendencies or their elected representatives truly are that retarded and lost in their own sauce with regards to teen pregnancy harm prevention
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Why not both?

There has to be a pedo-component to it though, few girls are at puberty by the very end of elementary, and almost no boys, plus, who's going to agree to manufacture child-sized condoms for the government?

(I feel dirty for having written that sentence. I'm sorry. It straight up feels satanic.)
 
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mindlessobserver said:
Who is going to use the condoms?

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They'll say "well, this is just a recognition that sometimes kids are having sex and if they're going to do it anyway, isn't it better that they prevent some of the potential bad outcomes?"

It's a really good point, when you think about it. Harm reduction. It just makes sense.

That's why I'm going to petition for every school to have a cache of weapons available for a school shooting, easily accessible at the front entrance, alongside tactical maps of the building.

I mean, come on, we're obviously going to have school shootings anyway no matter what anyone does about it. It's going to happen whether we adults like it or not. So why not make sure they have clean weapons with known serial numbers so that we know exactly what they're using and can limit the caliber of the weapons, as well as the overall amount of ammo?

I know what you're going to say: that sounds like it would lead to a lot more school shootings. But don't you think the kids who are really going to do a shooting are going to do it with or without a cache of weapons in the front office with a sign reading "take us, we're free"?
 
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Absurdist Laughter said:
The gays did this.
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Idk man, they started it, but I think most cases of public school teachers raping their students fall along hetero lines. Lady teacher + young teen boy seems to be in vogue, and it’s all but explicitly endorsed though the “Feminist Lens,” which dictates women pursue sexual relationships where they enjoy a power differential
 
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Sweeter and Savoury said:
I do wunder what the mid-terms will be like if the Dems keep just refusing to face reality.

They are still sperging about woke shit even in the face of a massive defeat. They simply cannot bring themselves to admit they are wrong.

No! No, it is the people who are wrong! American voters are just pure misogynistic and racists and evil Natsee's! We must double, NO! Triple down on our woke policies to show them how wrong they are.

Yah...attacking the public for not voting for you is probably not the best tactic there guys. At this rate we might see a historic GoP sweep in the midterms. Imagine Trump with mass majorities in the House and Senate.
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I think that the midterms might see a collapse by the DNC losing a bunch of seats to the GOP yes, but I also think they might end up losing the dark blue areas to the likes of the DSA or independent progressive commie types.

They have put themselves into a corner where they can only appeal to the radicals, and any attempt at walking back to the center is seen as betrayal by the base and empty platitudes by the targets of said "centrism".

If the GOP is smart they will focus on boosting the open socialist/commie candidates and forcing the DNC to keep the insanity up. Either they split the oposition and grab the bag, or the DNC loses influence to the crazy leftists which are even crazier but less well connected and funded.

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Just in case people wonder, this is why people think protests work. Protests don't actually motive the powers that be into doing anything, they're just cover for what they want to do anyways. It's why Right leaning ones never get anything done.
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Yep, the tail that wags the dog. It's also why many protests are so obviously astroturfed. It's why USAID cuts are so damaging to these types, no more mass printing of banners and leaflets. It's also why you see shit like protests in Georgia and Ukraine where all the protesters for some reason have signs in english instead of the local language: makes it easier to boost the media around it.

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"Secretary Asmon, what is the stance the Trump Administration is taking to deal with recent developments in <political issue>?"
Ten seconds of silence follow, Asmongold's brows drawn in and mouth open in a caveman rictus, eyes staring off into nothingness.
"Wow, yeah... great question. Yeah. people don't ask questions like that enough. I don't know, I'll have to get back to you on that one."
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Honestly better response than that diversity hire Biden had.
 
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